Re: [RE-wrenches] Charging voltages

2013-05-13 Thread Jesse Dahl
I notice when reading the flexmax 80 manual on-line that they recommend the array V be 12v to 24v higher then nominal battery V. The system in question is only 7v above nominal. So what problems am I going to hear about the next time this dude calls me? This system is GDI with battery backup

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV-direct electric water heating

2013-05-13 Thread Tom Elliot
I suppose it would be an interesting exercise to do the math but my experience with very cold groundwater input to a gas on-demand heater (Aquastar) showed very efficient fuel usage even with the cold water input. It seems that trying to heat a tank of that cold water with PV, especially if th

Re: [RE-wrenches] Charging voltages

2013-05-13 Thread Jesse Dahl
Good info, I thought maybe the warm days the system might drag the voltage to low, that's why I asked. So, on to MPPT controllers. Again limited use, so looking for some good info. Kinda limited battery experience to be honest. Just very small cabin/shacks. Rewiring an array in this scena

[RE-wrenches] PV-direct electric water heating

2013-05-13 Thread Luke Christy
Hi Wrenches, Now that the cost of modules has come down so much, has anyone out there experimented with solar electric water heating? As in: direct connecting a short series string of PV modules to a tank -style electric water heater with an element of an appropriate voltage and wattage rating…?

Re: [RE-wrenches] Charging voltages

2013-05-13 Thread Kirpal Khalsa
Jesse.why wouldn't you wire at least 2 modules in seriesthis way you have less breakers to deal with, less cord grips if paralleling in a combiner box, less homerun cables to the combiner and you will also benefit from greater energy harvest in your MPPT conversion particularly during cold

Re: [RE-wrenches] Charging voltages

2013-05-13 Thread Dave Palumbo
Jesse, Check with manufacturer to be sure. I've had AGM's in 24v system's set at 29.2 Bulk/Absorb and other manufacturers (Full River for one) that say 29.6 is fine. So, with an FM80 I would recommend 4 strings of 2 modules to ensure that you can always get that VMP up where it needs to be. David

[RE-wrenches] Charging voltages

2013-05-13 Thread Jesse Dahl
Hello, I'm interested in charging voltages for AGM batteries. After my visit to the site mentioned in the battery box thread, I was thinking about the system. New install, 8 solarworld 255s charging a 24V battery bank through a outback FM80 (MPPT) All 8 modules in parallel. VOC - 37.8 VMP -

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes

2013-05-13 Thread Exeltech
Try: Radiant Solar Technology 500 Milani Drive Ukiah, California 95482 (707) 485-8359 http://www.radiantsolartech.com Several years ago, they made two HDPE enclosures for me that each hold four Rolls-Surrette batteries..  The enclosures have a deep bottom for containing acid, and are ventila

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes

2013-05-13 Thread Maverick Brown
For FLA batteries, we only use plywood for the boxes. I'm worry about corrosion. For AGM, we use metal, usually AL. Stainless is more expensive. Thank you, Maverick Maverick Brown BSEET, NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer ® President & CEO Maverick Solar Enterprises, Inc. Office: 512-9

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes

2013-05-13 Thread Jesse Dahl
After seeing this battery box and seeing the issues that can arise if a large battery bank is deployed I contacted a local metal fab shop and asked for a estimate on building one if I needed it. A 45"x40"x 20" battery box with stamped louvers was about $1000. This was made out of stainless bec

[RE-wrenches] Off-peak requirements.

2013-05-13 Thread Jesse Dahl
Hello, What types of problems/issues are people seeing when installing grid-tied or grid-tied with battery backup systems when doing so on homes with off-peak services? Most homes in my area have off-peak heat and water heaters and depending on the system it can involve rewiring if the home h

Re: [RE-wrenches] SHW Schuco issue

2013-05-13 Thread Solar Energy Solutions
Dear SWH Wrenches,   I was about to start out raging against the machine, but, what's the use.  This Tyfocor LS I am thinking is going to be a big issue.  The &^$(*^ Schuco glycol is of such a special nature not even the CIA can replicate it... and it is the only glycol sanctioned by Schuco for

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC coupled ProSine

2013-05-13 Thread Kent Osterberg
Thank you, David. I knew someone monitoring this list would know if it would work. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com On 5/13/2013 4:06 PM, David Katz wrote: Hi Kent, It will blow up. The Prosine is not bi-directional. You can only use an H-Bridge type i

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC coupled ProSine

2013-05-13 Thread David Katz
Hi Kent, It will blow up. The Prosine is not bi-directional. You can only use an H-Bridge type inverter. David David Katz CTO & Founder AEE Solar Inc P: 707 825-1200 F: 707 825-1202 dk...@aeesolar.com www.aeesolar.com DISCLAIMER: This communication, along with any documents, files or attachme

[RE-wrenches] AC coupled ProSine

2013-05-13 Thread Kent Osterberg
Has any put together an ac-coupled system using the Xantrex ProSine inverter? I've got a customer that wants to try this and I don't even know if it is possible to do with the ProSine. I'd rather not be the first to give it a try. -- Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsol

[RE-wrenches] Shorting LA302 lightning protection

2013-05-13 Thread Dana
Hey all. I had a wild trouble shoot this weekend as follows: A So Cal Client calls & 1 of his 4 - MX60 CC"s out of operation, works 10 minutes and then shows gibberish on the screen and shuts down. To get it awake again he needed to totally power it down for 15 min and restart. Checked con

Re: [RE-wrenches] SHW Schuco issue

2013-05-13 Thread Dave Palumbo
Hi Carl, Yes. I ordered the WILO circ pump (and have received) from PAW last week. I also have one coming from Schuco USA covered under warranty. Schuco is still answering the phone in CT. See Sandor's contact below. He was very helpful, unfortunately he had to source the pumps out of Germany a

Re: [RE-wrenches] SHW Schuco issue

2013-05-13 Thread Carl Adams
Dave, Were you successful in tracking down one of these pumps? We have a number of Schuco units in the field all running fine at present, but it would be good to have a part source when the time comes. Any joy locating a US distributor for the Tyfocor-LS? Cheers Carl Adams SunRock Solar ___

Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase "AC Frequency Out Of Range"

2013-05-13 Thread Carl Adams
Passing this info along One of our Enphase customers reported that his local electric utility installed a new metering system, TWACs by Aclara. Once they installed a new meter on the service, the system began registering ACFOOR (AC Frequency Out Of Range) messages.He contacted Enphase and th

Re: [RE-wrenches] not sure what's going on here

2013-05-13 Thread Ray Walters
Take a charge controller with you that is sized for that array. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 5/12/2013 11:57 PM, Ron Young wrote: Hello all and thank you for the illuminating replies. One thing