[RE-wrenches] Kohler 8.5 RMY question

2012-04-03 Thread Allan Sindelar
Wrenches, We sold and installed a few Kohler 8.5 and 11 RMY generators in the first half of the last decade. We found over the years that followed that they held up quite well, with very few problems if cared for. We have a customer whose off grid system we cared f

Re: [RE-wrenches] small wind generators

2012-04-03 Thread Dan Fink
Also note that when you download the Sunforce FAQs http://www.sunforceproducts.com/docs/Wind%20General%20FAQs.pdf That the first part all all about the Skystream. Then it merges into the Sunforce 400. H. Again, anyone from SWWP here on the list to shed light? DAN FINK On Tue, Apr 3, 20

Re: [RE-wrenches] small wind generators

2012-04-03 Thread Kent Osterberg
It is interesting that when you download the manual for the Sunforce 400, you get a 2002 vintage SWWP Air-X manual. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com On 4/3/2012 5:24 PM, Dan Fink wrote: Esteemed Wrenches; I've been watching this thread closely, and I'm think

Re: [RE-wrenches] small wind generators

2012-04-03 Thread Roy Butler
Dan, You're right, I smell something and it's not a rose! I was told that the Sunforce is a Chinese product. There is nothing certified on or in that turbine and I would not touch it with a 10' poleor even a 10 meter tower ;-) I had not heard anything about a SWWP/ Sunforce relationship

Re: [RE-wrenches] small wind generators

2012-04-03 Thread allsolar
Sunforce is junk IMHO and not made in Flagstaff by SWWp Jeremy Sent via BlackBerry. Sorry for typos and shorthand! -Original Message- From: Dan Fink Sender: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.orgDate: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 18:24:51 To: RE-wrenches Reply-To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wre

Re: [RE-wrenches] small wind generators

2012-04-03 Thread Dan Fink
Esteemed Wrenches; I've been watching this thread closely, and I'm thinking something is really fishy about the Sunforce turbinedistributed by Coleman (camp stoves, sleeping bags, lanterns) and also distributed by Home Depot, Lowes, Sears, Target, Radio Shack, Kmart, Fry's, West Marine, Northe

Re: [RE-wrenches] small wind generators

2012-04-03 Thread Roy Butler
Hi Dick, Kestrel is going through certification at this time. This is good news, as this will help them enter the US market with some established credibility. It has the potential to be a good turbine. And with the Eveready battery company behind them, they should have the capital needed to

Re: [RE-wrenches] small wind generators

2012-04-03 Thread William Dorsett
>From a windy Kansas perspective, I have watched for decades turbines go up and then after a couple years come down. I think it goes along with the fact that climbing a tower or lowering it is nervous making enough that after a few years, even if the owners understand electronics, they tend to negl

Re: [RE-wrenches] small wind generators

2012-04-03 Thread Richard L Ratico
Does anyone have any experience with Kestrel Wind Turbines? Dick Ratico Solarwind Electric --- You wrote: SWWP has changed their turbines again. They are now called the the Air 30, Air 40 and Air Breeze. The 30 is like the old X land, the 40 is like the old Breeze Land and the Breeze is like the

Re: [RE-wrenches] small wind generators

2012-04-03 Thread Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems
SWWP has changed their turbines again. They are now called the the Air 30, Air 40 and Air Breeze. The 30 is like the old X land, the 40 is like the old Breeze Land and the Breeze is like the old Breeze Marine. The Breeze is the only marine model available. Confusing enough? The 40 and Breeze hav

Re: [RE-wrenches] small wind generators

2012-04-03 Thread wirewiz
I am a dealer for Ampair wind turbines. The 100 watt is low output, about 50 to 75 ah/day but extremely quiet and durable (survives hurricanes). I have been competing in the marine market with the now AirBreeze for 15 years. Or take a look at the 600 for more output. All Ampair's are marine grad

Re: [RE-wrenches] Charge Rate (Hot Trojan Batteries)

2012-04-03 Thread John DeBoever
Jeremy, I would like to share few comments: o 5 strings in parallel will definitely promote a high probability of unbalanced strings over time, leading to some units "boiling" while others will face sulfatation. 1 to 3 strings in parallel max would be my recommendation, depending size of lo

Re: [RE-wrenches] small wind generators

2012-04-03 Thread robert ellison
The turbine spinning has no relationship to actual power into the battery bank. If you can't get it into the air a ways don't bother at all, just add more solar or a larger battery bank. They might spin at 15' but they accomplish absolutely nothing. Bob Ellison On 4/3/12, Drake wrote: > Hi Roy,

Re: [RE-wrenches] small wind generators

2012-04-03 Thread Chris Daum
Hi Folks: A really great little wind genny is a 12V or 24V Chinook, manufactured to withstand Montana's harsh winter conditions. Check 'em out at http://www.chinookturbines.com/Home.html Best, Chris Daum Oasis Montana Inc. 406-777-4309 406-777-0830 fax www.oasismontana.com _ Fro

Re: [RE-wrenches] Charge Rate (Hot Trojan Batteries)

2012-04-03 Thread Kirpal Khalsa
5 strings says it all! now would be a good opportunity to replace with higher capacity cells and fewer strings for long lasting performance..Kirpal On Apr 3, 2012 7:21 AM, "All Solar, Inc." wrote: > ** > With 5 strings installed, I figured the charge rate to be about 3.3% (of > C20 rate) for

Re: [RE-wrenches] small wind generators

2012-04-03 Thread Christopher Warfel
We have used the Marine X version for three years without problems. On 4/3/2012 10:17 AM, Drake wrote: Hi Roy, It would be for a cloudy weather backup for an off grid system. From what you are saying, it doesn't sound like it will produce much. There is one on a highway weather station near

Re: [RE-wrenches] small wind generators

2012-04-03 Thread All Solar, Inc.
Air products are reliable. Look at the Air Breeze. It will out perform the 400w AirX Sunforce 600- No way! Jeremy All Solar, Inc. Jeremy and Amy Rodriguez 1463 M St Penrose, CO 81240 www.asolarelectric.com Phone 719-372-3808 Fax 719-372-3804 Email allso...@scswifi.net Email allso...@live.com -

Re: [RE-wrenches] Charge Rate (Hot Trojan Batteries)

2012-04-03 Thread All Solar, Inc.
With 5 strings installed, I figured the charge rate to be about 3.3% (of C20 rate) for 5 years or so. Actually since it was installed in 2002, and now on its second set of batteries. We added some PV and an MX60 a year ago, and now this. I think he had heavily sulfated batteries which eventua

Re: [RE-wrenches] small wind generators

2012-04-03 Thread Drake
Hi Roy, It would be for a cloudy weather backup for an off grid system. From what you are saying, it doesn't sound like it will produce much. There is one on a highway weather station near here, and it spins a lot, and is only ~ 15' above the ground. Thanks, Drake At 10:04 AM 4/3/2012,

Re: [RE-wrenches] small wind generators

2012-04-03 Thread Roy Butler
Hi Drake, The Air 403/ Air-X/ Air Breeze/ whatever it's name is now, is fairly dependable. In most wind regimes it's the equivalent of a 10 or 20 watt solar module but seems to work just fine. FYI- it's ~ 200 watts or so. It's not the quietest thing thou

[RE-wrenches] small wind generators

2012-04-03 Thread Drake
Hello Wrenches, Are the new Air 403 wind machines more reliable than in times past? I'm also looking at a Sunforce 600 W machine. How do these small turbines hold up these days? Thanks, Drake Drake Chamberlin ATHENS ELECTRIC LLC OH License 44810 CO license 3773 NABCEP Certified PV ___