Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverters and cold temps?

2012-01-16 Thread Ryan J LeBlanc
Hi Jesse, Good open questionhere's what I think about this problem We all understand that electrical components have very clear performance versus cost trade-offs. I think extreme outside conditions, like those below -40°C temps, simply lend themselves to a string/central PV topology

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverters and cold temps?

2012-01-16 Thread Jesse Dahl
The post by Dan from Exeltech got my mind on this. The warranty is what always makes me stay away from inverters outside. It sure would make some of my installs easier if I could mount the inverter outside. Any other inverter brands outside with no problems? Jesse Sent from my iPhone On

Re: [RE-wrenches] Request for Gennie Recommendation

2012-01-16 Thread Comet Systems
Try www.cometenergysystems.com for our solar and generators. On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Allan Sindelar < al...@positiveenergysolar.com> wrote: > ** > > > P.S. Chris Mason, your website doesn't jive...I went to > www.cometsystems.co and got a site that said "Comet Systems Ltd. is a > Certif

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverters and cold temps?

2012-01-16 Thread benn kilburn
Jessie, Dan with Exeltech just gave some good insight to cold weather inverter capacitor tolerances in the thread "Electrolytic Caps vs. Thin Film Caps‏". We had -26C here (Edmonton) today and the next couple of days are looking like minimum -30C with windchill on top of that. This is p

Re: [RE-wrenches] Request for Gennie Recommendation Honda EU 6500

2012-01-16 Thread Maverick Brown [Maverick Solar]
I have a customer with that Gennie and we auto start it with the Xantrex XW AGS and without the Honda Remote. See Type 13. Let me know if you need more details. Thanks Maverick Maverick Brown BSEET, NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer R # 091209-26 President & CEO Maverick Solar Enterprises

[RE-wrenches] Makita generator question

2012-01-16 Thread bob ellison
Does anyone know who built the alternator on the Makita generator model 5711? Seems to be a brushless unit and its power quality has gotten bad after someone flipped the series / parallel switch for a few seconds while it was running. There is a t-240 on the line so it was the equivalent of a dea

Re: [RE-wrenches] Request for Gennie Recommendation

2012-01-16 Thread bob ellison
I am a reformed Honda Engine dealer, last that I knew Honda built NO engines to run on propane. It seems that after 400 or so hours they had a bad habit of dropping a valve from lack of lubrication (or so I ASSume) to the valve train I have seen 3 or 4 engines do that, and I have only seen 4 or 5

[RE-wrenches] Inverters and cold temps?

2012-01-16 Thread Jesse Dahl
All, I live in an area where -40F is not uncommon and where -60F has been seen. (northern MN) I have yet to see an inverter that can be placed in locations like this and not exceed the warranty temp extremes. Enphase has a cold temp acceptability of -40F last time I checked, and when I ca

Re: [RE-wrenches] Request for Gennie Recommendation

2012-01-16 Thread Drake
I'm installing a small off grid system that has an existing generator. It is a Honda EU 6500 converted to run on propane. It is sweet. I haven't found out yet if the conversion cancelled the warranty. This would be too small for Allen's current project, but it seems like a good solution for

Re: [RE-wrenches] Shedding ice

2012-01-16 Thread Mark Dickson
Just thinking out loud here, but wondering if it would pay to attach an insulated back to the panel for the winter months to decrease the convection. I may need to set up a lab here and find out. . . Best regards, Mark Dickson, NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer T Oasis Montana Inc. 87

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generator Selection -- XW specific

2012-01-16 Thread William Miller
Don't know, but I may be finding out soon and I will let you know. Wm At 01:24 PM 1/16/2012, you wrote: Any guess or knowledge as to how much load is required to smooth out the waveform? Thanks--- - Original Message - From: "William Miller" To: "RE-wrenches" Sent: Monday, January 1

Re: [RE-wrenches] Shedding ice

2012-01-16 Thread b...@midnitesolar.com
On 1/16/2012 1:34 PM, penobscotso...@midmaine.com wrote: Impressive, Bob, but if one 125 watt panel took 1000 watts of power, what is it going to take to melt my two 1600 watt arrays, pole mounted, (theoretically, of course, and at a 65 degree tilt)? Just wondering as it seems a lot of power

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generator Selection -- XW specific

2012-01-16 Thread Maverick Brown [Maverick Solar]
I was able to edit two parameters guided by Xantrex to make the issue go away. You will need the Xantrex Configuration Tool and the tech note / software tool from Xantrex. But otherwise its pretty simple to do. Of course, a firmware update will make the incompatibility go away easier. Software upg

Re: [RE-wrenches] Shedding ice

2012-01-16 Thread penobscotsolar
Impressive, Bob, but if one 125 watt panel took 1000 watts of power, what is it going to take to melt my two 1600 watt arrays, pole mounted, (theoretically, of course, and at a 65 degree tilt)? Just wondering as it seems a lot of power to use in the winter for an off grid or solar reliant syste

Re: [RE-wrenches] Shedding ice

2012-01-16 Thread Mark Dickson
Wow Bob I take it back--that was really cool! I am trying to help out some of our local weather forecasters that have a small 50 watt module mounted on top of one of our peaks that runs a weather station. So, unfortunately this may be a little on the small side of one of your classics, but n

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generator Selection -- XW specific

2012-01-16 Thread Ken Schaal
Any guess or knowledge as to how much load is required to smooth out the waveform? Thanks--- - Original Message - From: "William Miller" To: "RE-wrenches" Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 3:51 PM Subject: [RE-wrenches] Generator Selection -- XW specific Friends: The Kohler RES seri

Re: [RE-wrenches] Shedding ice

2012-01-16 Thread b...@midnitesolar.com
On 1/16/2012 11:39 AM, David Katz wrote: Mark, I believe the Midnite Classic has this feature built in. Check with them. David Katz It just snowed up here in Arlington, Washington A.C. and we were just starting to melt some snow on a couple of modules on our roof just now with one of our ch

Re: [RE-wrenches] Shedding ice

2012-01-16 Thread penobscotsolar
We are currently in Culebra installing a pv system with two Classic 200's. Its a great controller to set up and install. While snow melt is not important here, i did notice after using the setup wizard that it mentions future new features with the snow melt function being one of those mentioned. Th

[RE-wrenches] Generator Selection -- XW specific

2012-01-16 Thread William Miller
Friends: The Kohler RES series generator has a bug when used in conjunction with the Xantrex XW inverters: The power waveform of the RES generators is distorted under no-load conditions. The result is that the XW will not connect. A fix is pending but a new firmware release date is not yet

Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase- How big is too big

2012-01-16 Thread Jason Szumlanski
We have a systems with over 200 microinverters installed, and they work great. Enphase has a fair labor reimbursement policy for warranty swaps. While we have swapped a fair number of micros in the past, problems are becoming fewer and farther between, and we are compensated for this work. I wo

Re: [RE-wrenches] battery venting; Corrosion

2012-01-16 Thread Ray Walters
I've found the Zephyr Power vents to be a little undersized in larger batteries with arrays over 1000 watts. Still get that smell in the room outside of the battery box, though its not explosive. That was with the 12 v model. I wouldn't mind seeing someone make a similar vent plumbed to larg

[RE-wrenches] Enphase- How big is too big

2012-01-16 Thread Keith Cronin
Recently, I was asked, how big is too big- to use micro inverters vs a string inverter for a small commercial system. With my own experience, we did a 10kW system and the owner was ecstatic with the level of detail and the reporting, as over the last couple of years, we had a few inverters that

Re: [RE-wrenches] Shedding ice

2012-01-16 Thread David Katz
Mark, I believe the Midnite Classic has this feature built in. Check with them. David Katz From: Mark Dickson [mailto:m...@oasismontana.com] Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 10:00 AM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: [RE-wrenches] Shedding ice I recall a conversation a while back about the possibility of

Re: [RE-wrenches] battery venting; Corrosion

2012-01-16 Thread Kent Osterberg
John, Thanks for the follow-up on this subject. I'd like to change the example to show the ventilation required rather than the hydrogen liberated. Consider a 48-volt bank of L16RE-B batteries: that's 24 cells of 370 amphours. Using the 14 cc/hr/Ah/cell H2 rate for equalizing gives a total h

Re: [RE-wrenches] Shedding ice

2012-01-16 Thread Ray Walters
Hi Mark; Robin Gudgel at Midnite was talking about a setting on the Classic that could do that. I'm not sure how far they went with the concept, but it definitely is beyond mere theory. I'd check with them, and see where they were at with that. Ray Walters On 1/16/2012 11:00 AM, Mark Dick

[RE-wrenches] Shedding ice

2012-01-16 Thread Mark Dickson
I recall a conversation a while back about the possibility of "reversing" the current in a solar module to increase the cell temp enough to shed ice/rime. To follow-up, has anybody been successful at this? I am guessing, if so, it would entail, removal of diodes, increasing PV and battery capacit

Re: [RE-wrenches] Request for Gennie Recommendation

2012-01-16 Thread Allan Sindelar
Wrenches, I very much appreciate this ongoing thread, thank you. This actually feels like one of those "damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenarios. The system is six years old, poorly designed and installed. Two SW5548s, most likely chosen in order to run a 2H

Re: [RE-wrenches] Request for Gennie Recommendation

2012-01-16 Thread Dave Palumbo
Chris, It would be very helpful if you quote "run hours" rather than "years". For example we have seen: . Inexpensive small generators (generally not worth rebuilding) 300 to 500 hours. These are gasoline models of various brands and Generac LP gas models. 3kW to 10kW in size typi

Re: [RE-wrenches] Request for Gennie Recommendation

2012-01-16 Thread Comet Systems
The Generac QT and commercial units do not come with an ATS, you can buy just the bare machine or have a complete solution designed for your load. The Generac residential machines are good machines, as long as you understand the intended use. We install lots of them. They are only designed to be u

Re: [RE-wrenches] BPS warranty claims

2012-01-16 Thread John DeBoever
From: Marco Mangelsdorf [mailto:ma...@pvthawaii.com] Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 07:07 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: [RE-wrenches] BPS warranty claims My old, usual channels to get warranty coverage from BP Solar appear to have dried up with messages like this. Dear Customer, Customer Se

Re: [RE-wrenches] Request for Gennie Recommendation

2012-01-16 Thread Jason Szumlanski
If the water cooled models are similar to the <=20kW air cooled models, the ATS is not integrated, but there is a controller that does not allow a two wire generator start circuit out of the box. However, there is a Generac rep named Bob Cramer that supplied my with a wire kit and instructions to b

Re: [RE-wrenches] Request for Gennie Recommendation

2012-01-16 Thread Howie Michaelson
Allan, I have heard from a generator sales / service friend that the water cooled Generac gennies (I believe 20 kW and up) are totally different animals than the standard Generac gennies. From personal experience and word-of-mouth I wouldn't touch the standard generac machines, but the water cooled

Re: [RE-wrenches] Request for Gennie Recommendation

2012-01-16 Thread Comet Systems
Allan, First, I'm a Generac sales & service dealer so I have an obvious bias. The Olympian brand are made by Generac for caterpillar. Anything under 20KW will be residential and will be designed for short runs. The Generac 6KW Ecogen is very well suited for your needs, as it is built for long run