Re: [RE-wrenches] Gross PV production meter options

2011-12-06 Thread Alex Cozine
Ditto Larry's link: 1 turns meter when PV power sold. 2 turns meter when Battery Power sold. 3 cancels turns when: pulling power to charge battery and using that battery power for critical loads. (power used from grid is still accounted for on the utility meter) side note: for 120V output you need

Re: [RE-wrenches] Gross PV production meter options

2011-12-06 Thread toddcory
no, he said he only wanted to meter what was being sold to the grid... not what was sold to the grid plus local consumption (which is the only way to measure total PV production). btw austin international (they have a new name now) has cheaper meters., todd On Tuesday, December 6, 2011

Re: [RE-wrenches] Gross PV production meter options

2011-12-06 Thread wirewiz
David, Here is a link to what you might be looking for: http://www.outbackpower.com/pdf/tech_notes/120_vac_single_inverter.pdf Larry Liesner Wirewiz 31 Lincoln St Westport, CT 06880 203-644-2404 wire...@gmail.com www.wire-wiz.com NABCEP Certified PV Installer (# 032611-184) On Tue, Dec 6, 2011

Re: [RE-wrenches] Gross PV production meter options

2011-12-06 Thread Howie Michaelson
Dave, Which utility is it? WEC? Are you doing an AC coupled or DC coupled system? If AC I believe you could use a normal 240v meter between the critical load panel and the grid inverter which would only measure the solar production. Howie Michaelson Dave Palumbo wrote: >We are installing a g

Re: [RE-wrenches] Gross PV production meter options

2011-12-06 Thread toddcory
treat this as you would treat metering a standard non battery system. the KV2 meters are for combining the local consumption with the selling to the grid. a standard, single direction counting kWh meter in series with the 240 v grid tie will do what you want. todd On Tuesday, December 6

Re: [RE-wrenches] Gross PV production meter options

2011-12-06 Thread Dave Palumbo
We are installing a grid interactive, with battery back-up, OutBack Radian GS8048 with 5kW of PV. Vermont has a "Solar Adder" premium that varies from utility to utility but in this case adds 6 cents per kWh over and above net-metering (basically to come up to a par value of 20 cents/kWh for PV pro

Re: [RE-wrenches] GEC and EGC Advice

2011-12-06 Thread James Rudolph
Allen, As far as best practices go, I would route all those conductors and GEC/ECG in the same raceway." To maintain the shortest electrical time constant in each circuit, the ECG should be routed as closely as possible to the circuit conductors. This routing facilitates the operation on over-cur

Re: [RE-wrenches] GEC and EGC Advice

2011-12-06 Thread JRQ
I'd avoid using the metal conduit as the only bond in your equipment grounding from the roof down to other equipment. If the GEC is bonded to the rest of the equipment grounding system at a point on the ground, then of course it can double as the EGC. Otherwise, if you don't want to use a separa

Re: [RE-wrenches] GEC and EGC Advice

2011-12-06 Thread bob ellison
I would run a wire, I have seen metallic conduit used as ground come apart in buildings. At that point we know where the ground (or at least the connection goes..) I doubt that it makes a difference whether it is single or 3 phase. But there are lots of people on the list with more 3 phase experi

[RE-wrenches] GEC and EGC Advice

2011-12-06 Thread Allen Frishman
Fellow Wrenchers, I know this topic has come up before and I have a understanding but I am looking for best practices advice. When installing a 50KW or larger 3 phase 208V (WYE Service) Inverter on a roof do you run your Grounding Electrode Conductor in a separate conduit from the 3 hots, and t