Re: [RE-wrenches] Lightning Protection System

2010-08-02 Thread Kelly
Thanks, David Not much lightening here. LOTS of leftover & ignorant goo in these specs. Like 20 to 30 kW of VAWT's with specs just like the subject of a recent thread on this list entitled "Wind Scam" Only the best for the US military! Kelly, from mobile On Aug 2, 2010, at 9:29, David Brearley

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outdoor rated flexible metal cable

2010-08-02 Thread Phil Undercuffler
Not sure about the conduit, but I can chime in about the location. NEC Article 100 defines damp as those locations protected from weather, and give as examples under a porch or canopy, or some basements. Wet locations are those "in unprotected locations exposed to weather." Those conduit runs ar

Re: [RE-wrenches] USE-2 in white?

2010-08-02 Thread Peter Parrish
You are absolutely right, Allan. Anyone who wishes to respond off-line is welcome. -Peter Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D., President California Solar Engineering, Inc. 820 Cynthia Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90065 CA Lic. 854779, NABCEP Cert. 031806-26 peter.parr...@calsolareng.com Ph 323-258-8883, Mobile

Re: [RE-wrenches] USE-2 in white?

2010-08-02 Thread Peter Parrish
We got a recent quote of $0.269/ft for black and $0.329/ft for black w/white stripe #10 in order quantities of 1,000 ft. It is CPE/XLP rated USE-2 and RHW-2. What do people think of these prices? -Peter Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D., President California Solar Engineering, Inc. 820 Cynthia Ave., Lo

Re: [RE-wrenches] USE-2 in white?

2010-08-02 Thread Nick Soleil
The colored USE-2 wiring is UV resistant (as rated) and it is the better kind (double jacketed.) I like! Nick Soleil Project Manager Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC PO Box 657 Petaluma, CA 94953 Cell: 707-321-2937 Office: 707-789-9537 Fax:707-769-9037 __

Re: [RE-wrenches] USE-2 in white?

2010-08-02 Thread Glenn Burt
We get ours in 10AWG from Allied Wire & Cable in Collegville, PA. It is not white, but they stripe it white with no trouble - about 3 stripes if I recall. I can't see why they wouldn't have larger gauges & it is pretty close to VT. -Glenn From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outdoor rated flexible metal cable

2010-08-02 Thread Nick Soleil
If it is metal clad cable, then it isn't rated for outdoor applications, but it doesn't matter much if it is 24V. Nick Soleil Project Manager Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC PO Box 657 Petaluma, CA 94953 Cell: 707-321-2937 Office: 707-789-9537 Fax:707-769-9037 __

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outdoor rated flexible metal cable

2010-08-02 Thread benn kilburn
Peter, What you describe almost sounds like Teck Cable -- General Specifications & Standard Design Features - Teck Cable. Teck cable generally has an outer PVC covering that covers the flexible aluminum "armor', although i have seen it without the outer PVC jacket (aluminum exposed). This is

Re: [RE-wrenches] USE-2 in white?

2010-08-02 Thread Dave Palumbo
My application for #8 and #6 is in conduit from the PV array combiner to the DC disconnect/inverter. So, UV protection is not important. Better quality insulation is my concern. We had a couple of spools of #8 THHN/THWN-2 test below the norm with a Fluke insulation tester recently. My local CED di

Re: [RE-wrenches] USE-2 in white?

2010-08-02 Thread Peter Parrish
Then I agree that the lack of carbon black could be a problem for USE-2 wire. Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D., President California Solar Engineering, Inc. 820 Cynthia Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90065 CA Lic. 854779, NABCEP Cert. 031806-26 peter.parr...@calsolareng.com Ph 323-258-8883, Mobile 323-839-6108,

Re: [RE-wrenches] USE-2 in white?

2010-08-02 Thread Allan Sindelar
The red is USE-2, RHH and RHW-2, rubber jacket. BiccGeneral (sp?) Durasheath. Allan Sindelar Allan@positiveenergysolar.com NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic Installer EE98J Jour

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lightning Protection System

2010-08-02 Thread Dana
Opps $10 million insurance policy. Thanks, Dana Orzel Great Solar Works, Inc E - d...@solarwork.com V - 970.626.5253 F - 970.626.4140 C - 970.209.4076 web - www.solarwork.com "Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988" From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrench

Re: [RE-wrenches] USE-2 in white?

2010-08-02 Thread Peter Parrish
I think we should be careful in two respects: (1) We have found “black with white stripe” for #10 USE-2. Since we have not had a use for anything larger than #10, I don’t know if black with a white stripe is available for larger gauges. It seems intuitive that “black with a white stripe” should ha

Re: [RE-wrenches] USE-2 in white?

2010-08-02 Thread Allan Sindelar
It's been years since we ordered it, but we got black, red and white from Anixter, 1-800-538-5431. Our rep Johnny X2832. The white fades in our intense sun, but is still adequately gray/white after 15 years.

Re: [RE-wrenches] AL wire with DC

2010-08-02 Thread bob
I used to have a customer who direct buried his own AL wire with a trencher, no sand or conduit for about 600' several years ago. It failed and now I am the bad guy, it is amazing how many people he has told that I did it. Lessons learned, avoid aluminum, use conduit and don't let the customer

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lightning Protection System

2010-08-02 Thread Dana
I have worked with Heary Brothers out of NY for ESS - Early stream emission devices http://www.hearybros.com/ Come with a lifetime $100 million insurance policy. I have 4 of these systems in and no one has taken a direct hit since installation. UL listed etc... Thanks, Dana Orzel Grea

[RE-wrenches] 100 Foot Skystream tower

2010-08-02 Thread Dana
The owner stated it was a 100' tower and it is from SWWP. It probably is a 70" tower based on the web site. I will start there and check back with the owner. The bases are level and it is squared off. Volume & size of concrete from above looks correct. There are 15'-20' cedar & juniper tree

Re: [RE-wrenches] USE-2 in white?

2010-08-02 Thread Mick Abraham
The sales rep at a wire mfr recently opined that USE-2 colors other than black will not have the same sunlight resistance. I had some red in the field which faded to pink but still looked OK after a few years...but that's only after a few years, and only OK. White in the same installation faded to

Re: [RE-wrenches] USE-2 in white?

2010-08-02 Thread Dave Click
I've seen it in the field from this manufacturer: http://www.kristechwire.com/use-2-solar-wire.php Original Message Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] USE-2 in white? From: EcoSolar - Eric Andrews To: 'RE-wrenches' Date: 2010/8/2 12:32 YES. We get ours from PLATT Electric. Most el

Re: [RE-wrenches] USE-2 in white?

2010-08-02 Thread EcoSolar - Eric Andrews
YES. We get ours from PLATT Electric. Most electric supply houses should have this wire. It is definitely nice for your DC source circuits. Eric R. Andrews NABCEP Certified PV Installer Eco Solar, Inc. Electrical Contractor #C623 www.ecosolarnow.com PO Box 5194 Klamath Falls, OR 97601 54

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lightning Protection System

2010-08-02 Thread David Brearley
Kelly, The company we used the most is Bonded Lightning Protection Systems: http://www.bondedlp.com/ They had local offices for our projects in Austin, TX and a regional HQ. Also, they had installed many of the lightning protection systems that we came across on existing buildings, including sem

Re: [RE-wrenches] USE-2 in white?

2010-08-02 Thread Dave Palumbo
Is USE-2 (#8 and #6 AWG) available in white? If so, from whom? Dave David Palumbo, NABCEP Certified PV Installer Independent Power LLC Offices in Lamoille and the Champlain Valley 802.888.7194 www.independentpowerllc.com ___ List sponsor

[RE-wrenches] Outdoor rated flexible metal cable

2010-08-02 Thread Peter Parrish
I recently had the opportunity to visit a City of Los Angeles Remote Automated Weather Station (RAWS). See http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryF?s=mtw&d=now&span=24hours I noticed that the system was wired using a flexible metal cable (1/2"). It had a continuous outer metallic covering that lo

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan T-105 non-vented shipping caps?

2010-08-02 Thread Bill Loesch
Dan, If you do decide to transport them in the aircraft cabin, make sure the pilot/dispatch/etc. knows that he is carrying flooded (wet) batteries and how they are secured and what kind of spill containment is in place. It's one thing for you to know the results of a spill and be willing to accep

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan T-105 non-vented shipping caps?

2010-08-02 Thread Drake Chamberlin
Dump a goodly amount of baking soda on top of, and around the batteries. Be sure to keep it out of the electrolyte. The issue of pressure change from altitude makes the sealed cap idea not a good one. \At 05:26 PM 8/1/2010, you wrote: Bob's idea of strapping them together is good. We do the s