[RE-wrenches] REC Solar melt-down

2009-06-30 Thread David G Katz
REC Group in Norway has taken the high road in dealing with the junction box problem on modules they made in 2008. The problem is old news. REC discovered that the junction box they were using, which connected to the tabing material coming out of the back of their modules with a compression co

[RE-wrenches] REC Solar melt-down

2009-06-30 Thread Nick Vida
wrenches, the defect in REC panels is the frame expands past the panel and can contract and break the glass. Unfortunate, but no big deal in a lot of ways. I dont know if there is another defect, but that one would warrant a recall instead of replacing a lot of panels. There was also an articl

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount

2009-06-30 Thread David Palumbo
Correcting myself here. That should be (TMP) in the first parenthesis. I should have known better to mix TMP with TPM's (Top of Pole Mounts). Maybe that's telling me something. DP From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount

2009-06-30 Thread David Palumbo
Hey Larry, Have you worked with the Techno Metal Posts (TPM) for 6" SCH40 (orSCH80) top of pole mounts? I have heard of the TMP's being used for multi pole ground mounts and my Vermont TMP franchisee wants to do some single pipe mast DPW top of pole mounts with his TM Post. Dave Palumbo

Re: [RE-wrenches] REC Solar melt-down

2009-06-30 Thread Matt Lafferty
Thanks for posting this, Marco. Somehow I missed this story last week. Funny in an ironic, twisted way. A friend of ours was in town visiting this afternoon. He mentioned that he was considering buying some REC modules out of Norway... Good deal on them, etc. (Can't tell ya the price he mentioned

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Boost Controller in Senegal

2009-06-30 Thread Darryl Thayer
Just to add to the battery confusion, I have found the Rolls last longer and behave better is charged slowly. I have some very fast charging AGMs I have only had on set of gels. DT --- On Tue, 6/30/09, Walt Ratterman wrote: > From: Walt Ratterman > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Boost C

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount

2009-06-30 Thread jay peltz
Hi All, Unistrut makes a telescoping set called get this telestrut. Pretty close to what you are discussing. But does anybody know if Powerstrut makes the same? My supplier only carries Powerstrut? Thanks, jay On Jun 30, 2009, at 5:47 PM, R. Walters wrote: I just looked at the Techno Metal P

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount

2009-06-30 Thread R. Walters
I just looked at the Techno Metal Post website; looks like a great product for the PV biz. I wonder if they could be adapted for grounding systems? Ray On Jun 30, 2009, at 6:23 PM, Larry Brown wrote: Keith, We have had good success with TechnoMetalPosts for ground mounts No excavation, no

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount

2009-06-30 Thread Larry Brown
Keith, We have had good success with TechnoMetalPosts for ground mounts No excavation, no concrete work and almost no disturbance to the site They have been running about $225-250 per post installed and a stamped engineering report for the local Building Department Larry Brown Sun Mountain O

[RE-wrenches] Ground Mount

2009-06-30 Thread Keith Cronin
Hi I have a solar friend who is looking for some feedback on cost per footing for a small residential ground mount system in Northern CA. Do any of you have a cost estimate/assumption for each sonotube and concrete mix? What have been the general requirements for diameter and depth of the footi

[RE-wrenches] REC Solar melt-down

2009-06-30 Thread Marco
Anyone else out there horrified by this kind of news from REC Solar in Norway? WTF?! marco REC to Recall All of Its Solar Panels From 2008 Thursday, 18 June 2009 13:43 Greentech Media Renewable Energy Corp will repair or change all of the solar panels it sold in 2008 and a quarter o

Re: [RE-wrenches] Charge controller recommendation

2009-06-30 Thread Allan Sindelar
Morningstar SunLight SS-10L-12v. Allan Sindelar al...@positiveenergysolar.com NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic Installer EE98J Journeyman Electrician Positive Energy, Inc. 3201 Calle Marie Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507 505 424-1112 www.positiveenergysolar.com -Original Message- From: re-wrenche

Re: [RE-wrenches] Charge controller recommendation

2009-06-30 Thread Walt Ratterman
I would recommend the Morningstar controller. There is a model (I don't have the catalog here) with a good timer, and LVD and good environmental controls, and electronic circuit protection. Walt -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun

[RE-wrenches] Charge controller recommendation

2009-06-30 Thread Joel Davidson
Hello Wrenches, I have an 12-volt, 1.2-amp outdoor light that I want to power with PV and a gel cell battery. What approx. 5 amp charge controller do you recommend? It would be nice to also have a low-voltage cut-out and a timer. Thanks in advance for your help. Best regards, Joel Davidson

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Boost Controller in Senegal

2009-06-30 Thread Walt Ratterman
Hello Larry and others.. The slow charge rate for the Gel's you mention confuses me further. I had just finished researching this last week when I was in Sierra Leone, where we were setting up the DEKA 225AH Gel batteries on an Outback system, and checking the charge rate. I downloaded a c

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Boost Controller in Senegal

2009-06-30 Thread Allan Sindelar
Larry, You're absolutely right in your first paragraph about one thing that I stated incorrectly: MPPT is for harvesting the most power possible from any voltage being produced above the battery voltage. I meant the difference between Vmp and Vbatt, not, not the difference between Voc and Vmp. Tha

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Boost Controller in Senegal

2009-06-30 Thread Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar
Hi Walt, You are right! Gel batteries will give many more cycles than AGM's. And they cost more so you you are not getting an equivalent value by them suppling AGM's. A very big downside to Gel is if you accidently over-voltage the battery, you can permanently ruin it. I have seen many ba

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Boost Controller in Senegal

2009-06-30 Thread Walt Ratterman
Hello, Why do you say that AGM batteries are a better choice? I have been reading about the differences, and all I see (comparing DEKA Gel versus DEKA AGM is that the cycle life of the AGM (at 50% DOD) is 500 cycles versus 1000 cycles for the Gel. The AGM seems to have better resistan

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Boost Controller in Senegal

2009-06-30 Thread Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar
Allan, MPPT technology is for harvesting the most power possible from any voltage being produced above the battery voltage, not the difference between Voc and Vmp. Because of this, nearly every battery charging system will benefit from MPPT chargers. The climate does not matter for prope

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Boost Controller in Senegal

2009-06-30 Thread Allan Sindelar
I didn't say it's an incorrect use. Please reread what I wrote. I agree it's one of its biggest advantages. But in Africa, once it fails it may be very hard to find a technician who can determine what controller to replace it with if the SB50 fails. (They aren't serviceable in the field, but m

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Boost Controller in Senegal

2009-06-30 Thread Wind-sun.com
Not sure why you think that cell matching is an incorrect use for MPPT. That is one of it's biggest advantages. .. Northern Arizona Wind & Sun - Electricity From The Sun Since 1979 Solar Discussion For

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Boost Controller in Senegal

2009-06-30 Thread Rick Cullen - Blue Sky Energy, Inc.
Hello Everyone, The SB50's maximum input voltage spec it 57VDC. This should be considered an absolute maximum above which the controller will be damaged in a manner not covered by warranty. Our recommendation is to not apply a total Voc at STC of more than 57V/1.25= 45.6V. There are transient

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Boost Controller in Senegal

2009-06-30 Thread Wind-sun.com
Yes, that is one I had forgotten about. The 100/20 and 100/30 have a max Voc of 95 volts so it should have no problem with those panels. .. Northern Arizona Wind & Sun - Electricity From The Sun Since

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Boost Controller in Senegal

2009-06-30 Thread Phil Undercuffler
Walt, I would look at using the Blue Sky 6024H in 36v input, 24v output mode. The physical dimensions are identical, and it can use the same temperature sensor (if the systems don't currently have temp sense, btw, add it. Absolutely). I still believe Rick's controllers are some of the most effic

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Boost Controller in Senegal

2009-06-30 Thread Wind-sun.com
The AGM batteries are probably a better choice than gelled, but the fact that some are down to 5 volts is the real problem. A typical AGM will lose around 1-2% charge per month at 25 degrees C. If they are at 5 volts, that indicates that they either sat around for over a year unused and uncharg

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Boost Controller in Senegal

2009-06-30 Thread Mick Abraham
Chiming in with another suggestion for an alternate charge control, I would look closely at Phocos. I've sold several of their early generation MPPT controllers and none of them have broken so far...even though some went to hot climates. The new version has firmware upgrade capabilities if you get

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Boost Controller in Senegal

2009-06-30 Thread Bob-O Schultze
alt, In addition to those possible replacement controllers you mentioned, you might add the BZ MPPT 500 to the list. I've had a few issues with them but that seems to have mostly sorted itself out. Very reasonably priced for a MPPT controller, 100 Voc input. The catch is you've got a 500W

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sunny Beam

2009-06-30 Thread Nicholas Ponzio, Building Energy
Marco, I called about this recently. They say it's in production now and should be available through distribution by the "end of the summer." -Nik On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Marco wrote: > Any one know anything about when the Bluetooth-version of the Sunny Beam is > going to start ship

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Boost Controller in Senegal

2009-06-30 Thread Walt Ratterman
Hello all, Thanks to all of your responses, and particularly Rick’s confirmation of the appropriate ranges for the SB50, it has become clear that these panels can not be made to work with the SB50, and that the SB50 was the wrong choice for these pre-fabricated systems, or perhaps better phr