Hi,
Can someone give me a run down on the status of the Atlantis? Is
Rivendell going to make size 68 cm frames again?
Thanks.
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Hi,
> The ride is what matters to me. The water
> bottle setup with the diagonal tube will be odd to me. The frame
> doesn't need to be any stiffer.
I have a 60cm Bombadil with Velocity Dyad rims, 40 spoke rear/36
front, and it rides like a wet noodle. It shimmies all over the
place. In fact
Hi,
There was on online photo contest titled "People and their set of
wheels". You can view a slideshow of the entries here:
http://www.dpreview.com/challenges/Challenge.aspx?ID=2581
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Hi,
Are the full specs available anywhere, particularly: theoretical TT
length, ST angle, HT angle, and chain stay length? What are the
differences between the Hunqapillar and the the too-long-in-the-top-
tube Bombadil? I'm interested in the largest size.
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On Mar 14, 3:30 pm, Frank wrote:
> Pictures of the just assembled-by-Tom Kevin's-Dream-Bike Bombadil,
> destined for the Thornton Creek School Auction in Seattle on May 1st.
> Thanks to RBW for a great spec and build, and for their significant
> support of the school.
>
> Best. Bike. Ever. You oug
e double top tube is really hard to look at.
> On Mar 14, 10:26 pm, cyclotourist wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 9:27 PM, happyriding wrote:
>
> > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/pguillam/4433434858/http://www.flickr.co...
>
> > > Woe is me. Why didn&#
Hi,
Based on Rivendell's history with other models, what are the odds the
Hunqapillar will be delivered in July? 50-50? 60-40 against?
Worse? Better?
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On Mar 23, 11:56 am, William wrote:
> Jay helped me out, but I also saw Keven, back from Taiwan. I saw the
> painted 48cm Hunqa hanging up in the showroom.
>
Oh, man. I need to see a picture of the head tube straight on to see
how garish those lug lines are going to be. Anyone, anyone? I rea
On Mar 23, 3:17 pm, happyriding wrote:
> Oh, man. I need to see a picture of the head tube straight on to see
> how garish those lug lines are going to be. Anyone, anyone? I really
> wish they wouldn't put lug lines on it. Thanks for posting those
> pictures! I just wish y
On Mar 23, 11:56 am, William wrote:
> I just finished ebaying some stuff and had obtained the financial
> means, and I had a couple meetings get rescheduled so I had the
> opportunity. So I went ahead and took a detour out to Walnut Creek
> and picked up my Bombadil frameset. It's the 56 Orange
Hi,
If possible, can someone get some good shots of the painted
Hunqapillar at Riv and post them online by tomorrow? I'm thinking of
pre-ordering one. I would particularly like to see some some shots
aimed at the front of the head tube.
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On Mar 23, 4:02 pm, William wrote:
> Thanks for the nice words about my Bomba. I will be heading back to
> HQ Thursday morning (they didn't have my front rim today). I'll take
> the shot and post if I can. I think you have through the 25th to get
> the lower price and the $100 credit. On the
On Mar 23, 4:02 pm, William wrote:
> Thanks for the nice words about my Bomba. I will be heading back to
> HQ Thursday morning (they didn't have my front rim today). I'll take
> the shot and post if I can. I think you have through the 25th to get
> the lower price and the $100 credit. On the 2
On Mar 24, 6:45 pm, dpco wrote:
> i have to start off by saying that i am an owner of a riv
> bike( roadeo ). i totally respect rivendell. what type of bike is the
> "hunqapallar"? i look at some of the pictures and think its' a
> mountain bike.
> don c.
For me, the Hunqapillar represents a full
On Mar 24, 10:34 pm, Michael Gordon
wrote:
> Happyriding - where did you find the geometry information for the
> Hunqapillar?
>
I called Rivendell. I don't know why that don't make it available on
the internet.
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On Mar 24, 4:14 pm, "Jim M." wrote:
> Pics of the gray 48 added to the group:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/groups/1358...@n23/pool/
>
> Very pretty! They should have other painted ones by the end of the
> week.
>
Thanks Jim M.!
I'm shocked by how different the gray looks in the sun. I guess when
t
Here are some images with the blue and the orange on the head tube.
Sorry, the images are pretty crude because I'm not very good with
selections in photoshop:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/49416...@n00/4462674976/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/49416...@n00/4461898985/
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Any chance you could be swayed by one lone voice: no lug lining,
please! Subtle is better than garish. Even two dark colors
highlight the lug lines enough.
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Even your solid colored bikes are beautiful! The solid orange
Hillborne hanging next to the Hunqapillar in one of the pictures, and
the solid Orange Bombadil someone bought this week are both beautiful--
and they don't have any contrast along the lug lines.
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On Mar 25, 9:38 am, "Jim M." wrote:
> I'm sure they'd leave the lining off if you ordered early. :-)
>
> On Mar 24, 11:52 pm, happyriding wrote:> On Mar 24,
> 4:14 pm, "Jim M." wrote:
>
> However, a bigger problem
>
> > for me are th
On Mar 25, 5:08 pm, William wrote:
> And it's only $300 now, to save $200in the next 52 minutes
>
I was told you have to put up the full $1,400 to save $200, and the
Hunqapillar pdf says the $200 discount is good until April 1.
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On Mar 25, 1:07 pm, JoelMatthews wrote:
> > Any chance you could be swayed by one lone voice: no lug lining,
> > please! Subtle is better than garish. Even two dark colors
> > highlight the lug lines enough.
>
> Not sure anyone could say these lined lugs are garish. Indeed, I would
> describe
On Mar 25, 8:38 pm, William wrote:
> Somebody at Rivendell told you that you had to pay in full to get the
> deal?
>
Yes.
> Did you do it?
>
No. I was on the fence. In the end, I couldn't make myself like the
lug lines. Unfortunately, Rivendell won't allow any changes to the
paint scheme--ev
On Mar 25, 9:32 pm, William wrote:
> Well there was no way I was ever going to Pay In Full for one. Just
> as well. This will give me time to get acquainted with the new Bomba
> and consider whether there is a gap at all in the stable.
>
I'm looking forward to seeing your Bombadil built up. T
On Mar 26, 7:04 am, JoelMatthews wrote:
>
> Back to the topic, Riv in the past has used a Norther Cali painter
> with more than a little skill. The paint on my Hilsen was
> incredible. From Grant's post anyway, it reads as though the Hunqs
> are being painted here, not in Taiwan.
>
I don't thin
Hi,
Has anyone done any fully loaded touring on a Sam Hillborne?
According to the Riv website:
--You can ride your Sam Hillborne self-contained across the
country..."
I'm wondering if a size 60 is up to the task. Or is it going to be
speed wobbling all over the road? The tubes aren't as st
Hi,
Thanks for the response.
On Mar 26, 3:48 pm, Phil Roberts wrote:
> I've
> descended 40 mph full-load and not once felt like I would lose control.
May I ask what size your Sam Hillborne is? Front and rear racks? How
many pounds would you say you had loaded on it?
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On Mar 26, 2:41 pm, William wrote:
> It's so cute and little! I want to put it in my pocket!
>
Ha ha ha.
Beautiful bike. There's nothing like picking up a sparkling new
bicycle.
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Hi,
Thanks for the responses.
On Mar 27, 8:34 am, "Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles"
wrote:
> We built one for a customer who is going to do just
> that:http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/?album=12&gal...
>
Oh, yeah. I've been poring over those pictures. That's a similar
set
On Mar 27, 1:31 pm, newenglandbike wrote:
> I am so buying one of those. Thanks for the link!
>
Well, then, you better not look at the pictures at the link I posted
earlier--or you'll end up with two!
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On Mar 28, 6:11 am, EricP wrote:
> Like it a lot. In fact, looked through the whole set with the
> additional photos. Wow.
>
There are some additional photos up on the Rivendell website under
Bicycle Frames->Hunqapillar.
There is a comment in one of the photos that says they are likely to
offe
On Mar 28, 11:01 am, JimD wrote:
> Well 'there's no arguing with taste'.
What do you two think of the gray frame with the cream head tube on
Rivendell's website under Bicycle Models->Custom Framesets?
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On Mar 28, 11:01 am, JimD wrote:
> Well 'there's no arguing with taste'.
>
> Here's my perspective:
>
> That gray has long been a dream bike color for me.
>
> Somewhere there is a photo of Mark Abele's earlier cyclo cross bike
> painted gray.
> I've seen the latest iteration of Marks bike with
On Mar 28, 10:20 am, Garth wrote:
> Maybe they should just let people choose their own color as that
> gray is one of the most gawd awful I've seen in awhile.
>
lol. I think I could live with just about any gawd awful color--as
long as it had NO LUG LINES!
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On Mar 27, 1:15 pm, Tim McNamara wrote:
> For those who haven't seen what one can do with a standard "racing"
> bike:
>
> http://siliconvalleycyclist.com/rides/slideshow_coast.htm
>
Thanks. I worked my way through the photos over the last couple of
days(slow connection), and I thought they wer
On Mar 29, 1:00 am, Rene Sterental wrote:
> the B17 have the curved top that
> forces the nose to be pointed upwards so the rear is flat and level and one
> doesn't slide forward?
>
I never pay attention to the back of a saddle. You don't sit on the
back of a saddle; you sit on the middle of the
On Mar 28, 8:26 pm, CycloFiend wrote:
> If you want a bit quicker version, I've also generated a jpg which can be
> found here:
>
> http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/#latest
>
Thanks for posting the jpeg version.
In the picture of the whole frame, the white balance is off. You can
tell by the blue tint
On Mar 29, 4:12 am, happyriding wrote:
> if
> you want to see a better representation of the real color, an elephant
> gray, I did an auto white balance in pse8, and I posted the result on
> flickr:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/49416...@n00/4472217333/
...or just look at
On Mar 29, 7:15 pm, "XO-1.org Rough Riders"
wrote:
> Bill
> Walton, with 11-year-old Moriah Swan
Those pictures of Moriah are hilarious!
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On Mar 31, 9:03 pm, James Warren wrote:
> I wonder if the 64, 66, and 68 sizes of the Atlantis will be available again
> for the ones made at Waterford.
>
Nope.
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On Mar 31, 9:58 pm, happyriding wrote:
> On Mar 31, 9:03 pm, James Warren wrote:
>
> > I wonder if the 64, 66, and 68 sizes of the Atlantis will be available
> > again for the ones made at Waterford.
>
> Nope.
It doesn't make any sense to me, but Rivendell won&#
On Mar 31, 11:14 pm, cyclotourist wrote:
> Do it!!!
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:08 PM, William wrote:
> > Oh snap! No it's just too real. so smooth. I hafta have one. I
> > just hafta.
>
> > Somebody talk me out of it.
>
> > No, don't
>
lol. I sent you an email. Don't read it; it ma
Hi,
Has anyone ridden on these? What is the actual width? Here is what
they look like:
http://www.airbomb.com/itemMatrix.asp?ic=54868&eq=&Tp=&MatrixType=2&sGroupCode=PG-21016
Here are some reviews:
http://www.buzzillions.com/reviews/vittoria-randonneur-reviews#singleReview=153008
One reviewe
On Apr 1, 12:38 pm, Michael_S wrote:
>
> Just love the grey/red and the Headbadge.
>
Smile Train Hunqa:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/49416...@n00/4481807041/
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Haven't you ordered one yet? You still have 3.5 hours!
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I thought some of you might be interested in this bike:
http://fastboycycles.com/projectbike.html
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And here's an amazing VeloOrange Randonneur (that isn't for sale):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916...@n00/sets/72157606169015639/
Nice eye candy.
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For the head badge admirers, there's a new picture up (it's the last
one-->all the way to the right):
http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/hunqapillar/50-713
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On Apr 2, 6:48 pm, rperks wrote:
> I know the notice is really short, but I figured I would put this out
> there
> for any that may be in the Ventura area tomorrow, and have not seen
> the discussion on Flickr. We have a small
> group getting together around 9:30 AM or so to ride a loop from
> Ve
On Apr 2, 2:50 pm, Esteban wrote:
> Many of you likely already saw this... but why not post it here? I
> photographed my bikes and tried to fit them into Gran'ts categories.
> He *did* provide the justification...
>
I love that quote from Grant. Hilarious!
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671.
How do you change gears on a Quickbeam?
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Hi,
If you buy an Atlantis frame for $2k and a Rivendell membership, do
you get a $100 merchandise credit at the end of the year?
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On Apr 2, 9:11 pm, Esteban wrote:
> Fingers.
>
> Hop off, release the wheel, slide it forward, move the chain over with
> one's digits, tension the wheel, brakes stay aligned a-la QB design,
> and you got yourself a touring "2-speed."
>
Is there also also a cog on the non-drive train side of the
On Apr 2, 9:42 pm, rperks wrote:
> That is the way it has worked for me, I think there is a shipping
> kickback too depending on the $$ and...
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/membership-join-sign-up/24-042
>
> like they said too, it works out to be a pretty good deal if you are
> getting
On Apr 2, 9:56 pm, Esteban wrote:
> There's an 18t on the other side. Ignore the man in the floppy hat
> cutting dangerously on the inside:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4469484509/
>
Whatever that is, I am unable to download it, so I suspect it's a
video. Let me see if I under
On Apr 2, 10:46 pm, Esteban wrote:
> Joe... I'll be in the Beast Bay. Martinez. We're driving up
> tomorrow. I might stop by Riv HQ in the afternoon.
>
Take a camera and get some more spy shots of the Hunqapillar. Get
close ups of all the major lug areas: the seat tube cluster, the head
tube,
On Apr 3, 8:40 am, newenglandbike wrote:
> You don't need to take the wheel off to switch gears up front, just
> loosen the QR.
Ok. That is what estaban said, too. I misunderstood.
> Can do the same for the rear if you are running a
> dual-cog freewheel such as the White Industries DOS ENO.
On Apr 3, 10:48 am, newenglandbike wrote:
> Just noticed this latest blog post on the riv site:
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/223
>
> Looks like the second TT on the hunqapillar may change to a more
> diagonal orientation. I'm not sure exactly what that means, but if
> it's what I t
On Apr 3, 11:11 am, MichaelH wrote:
> I have been idly thinking about looking for a used Atlantis frame to
> build up. When I look at the Riv web site I know longer have a link
> to the pdf geometry chart, and the Atlantis page only lists sizes up
> to 61. Didn't they once make a 64, and if so,
On Apr 3, 3:57 pm, "John Stoesser" wrote:
> About 2-4 weeks ago there was a 68cm Atlantis offered on ebay. The owner
> wanted $2600 as a buy-it-now. I called RBW and spoke to them about a 68cm
> about 2 years ago. They had one in stock. I didn't pull the trigger. Kept
> lurking around here hoping
On Apr 3, 6:52 pm, happyriding wrote:
> I have the .pdf
> file though. I'll send it to you.
>
Or you can see most of the numbers on Peter White's website:
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/atlantis.asp
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On Apr 3, 8:55 pm, CycloFiend wrote:
>
> I would _suspect_ that adding a second top tube lets you use lighter top
> tubes so they can flex and disperse stress, while at the same time you are
> stiffening the structure without adding stresses to the joints.
>
It's a stout touring-trail bike,
On Apr 3, 7:12 pm, newenglandbike wrote:
> That's not really true and here's why:
>
> Custom Waterfords are a great deal, but the closest thing to an
> Atlantis that Waterford offers as a base to customize is the
> 'Adventure Cycle', and it costs $1800 for the frame, and $350 for
> the fork.
On Apr 3, 11:55 pm, CycloFiend wrote:
> This has the geometry up to 68:http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/geometry.html
>
I knew you must have that chart on your site somewhere, but I looked
everywhere, and I couldn't find it. Even knowing the link, I still
can't find it when I start from your home p
On Apr 4, 8:13 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
wrote:
> I recall seeing photo(s) of some early Riv custom(s) in large sizes
> where the second "top tube" pretty much bisected the angle of the DT
> and the horizontal TT.
>
So one end of the second TT connected near the midpoint of the head
tube,
Your link doesn't work. Maybe you need to go to tinyurl.com and get a
short link that you can post.
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On Apr 4, 11:13 am, CycloFiend wrote:
> > I knew you must have that chart on your site somewhere, but I looked
> > everywhere, and I couldn't find it. Even knowing the link, I still
> > can't find it when I start from your home page.
>
> It's linked off of the Cyclofiend:RBW page -
>
> http://www
Wow. I read that article about the guy who did fully loaded touring
on his Quickbeam--in the middle of the winter! Amazing.
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On Apr 2, 2:28 pm, cm wrote:
> Just noticed the double top tube on the H on the decals..in some
> strange way that totally makes the bike for me.
>
lol.
I took notice of the H at some point too. Now what about the
significance of the U and that LA? The U looks like a V, and the the
A is stacke
Hi,
I had pretty much decided to get some Ortliebs, but then I read this
thread:
http://www.bikeforums.net/archive/index.php/t-270129.html
which points out that waterproof may not be such a good thing in hot
weather. What are some good non-waterproof panniers?
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Just an opinion, and not meant to insult anyone...but that is the
ugliest bike I've ever seen. Sorry. Just one opinion.
I suspect one reason Rivendell might like to do the diagonal 2tt is
marketing: it helps differentiate the Hunaqpillar from the Bombadil--
even if it doesn't improve on it. B
On Apr 5, 11:14 am, Bill Connell wrote:
> In my case, there are at
> least a couple of places around town where trail access involves a
> long staircase or (on one offroad trail) a long log crossing, so i
> shoulder the bike, cyclocross-style. I don't use a tt-mounted pump on
> most bikes for this
On Apr 5, 9:51 am, Garth wrote:
> Eric,
>
> Riv isn't going to make any drastic changes to the Hunq, or else
> they'd have to call it something else.
>
> What you see here is pure fantasy. One thought about TT's not being
> parallel and all of the sudden we have a whole new frame?
> Nah.
Did you
On Apr 5, 12:08 pm, james black wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 10:48, happyriding wrote:
> > Oh, yeah. Here is james black's suggested tube orientation--the two
> > triangles are better than one geometry:
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/49416...@n00/4494282750/
>
On Apr 5, 1:06 pm, William wrote:
> And here's the fantasy decal for the Diagonpillar:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/4494550338/
>
Ha ha ha!
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On Apr 5, 2:45 pm, Me wrote:
> This thing is like inviting heartbreak purposely into one's life.
>
> Bought one 3 years ago, never used/never had a use for it... until
> late.
>
> And after three tries, and the resulting 6 [3 per seatstay] deep -
> through paint/primer & into the actual steel deep
Just read that myself. It seems like some hard feelings are being
formed.
On Apr 5, 3:28 pm, William wrote:
> .and Grant posted about the various opinions, and indicated that
> one refund was given already. I think that's too bad, but nobody
> should buy a bike that they cannot like.
>
>
Thanks for the recommendations.
It looks like Arkel's GT-54 panniers offer the best of both worlds:
they have a dry sack integrated into the main compartment, which you
can either use or roll up so it is out of the way. But they are
extremely expensive at $380. I guess you could just buy a dry b
On Apr 5, 6:16 pm, William wrote:
> Eric
>
> I don't think anyone should or would fault you for not wanting to
> follow through on buying a bike that changed into something you don't
> like.
>
> Personally, the only thing you said that I thought was a bit unfair
> was the statement that the bike s
Hi,
Thanks for taking the time to post your thoughts.
On Apr 6, 10:10 am, Dave Craig wrote:
> Interesting. Have you noted that not single person who replied to your
> post recommended the Arkel 54 panniers??
>
> Here's why I didn't:
>
> Tremendously overbuilt and oversized - this results in incr
On Apr 6, 11:56 am, JoelMatthews wrote:
> > Here's something I don't understand about the Ortliebs. I would like
> > to get high visibility panniers, like the yellow Ortliebs. However,
> > the back of the panniers is black.
>
> By back do you mean the side that attaches to the rack or the side o
On Apr 6, 2:34 pm, Rene Sterental wrote:
> I will apologize first, but do think this "triangapillar" is just
> taking the discussion to a silly level.
>
Somewhat. But from an engineering standpoint, three triangles are
stronger than two. So technically, it is a stronger design than the
diaga-pi
On Apr 6, 3:17 pm, Shawn wrote:
> After an 80 mile ride on Saturday I had pain in my left Achilles. I
> rode clipped in. What might be the cause of the pain?
Do your pedals have float? New pedals or old pedals?
Your saddle might be too high. Any recent changes?
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On Apr 6, 3:56 pm, Dave Craig wrote:
> I have a 60cm Bombadil and it does indeed have a long top tube for me.
Thanks for posting. That is the size I would slot into.
> I seem to recall from the beginning that Grant designed the Bombadil
> with the dirt drop stem in mind. There are few stem
I'm going to start a new thread.
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I wonder if someone can speak to the concept of using short stems
on big frames to get the reach right. The Bombadil has a longish top
tube for me. With drop bars, if I want to sit more upright than on a
road bike, for example when touring, I would have to use a very short
stem. From what I've r
I think Rivendell has this diagonal 2tt wrong on the wrong bike.
It makes more sense to put the diagonal top tube on the Bombadil--if
indeed it makes the frame stiffer. With the diagonal top tube on the
Hunqapillar what is Rivendell going to say, "Our stout road bike is
stronger than our mounta
On Apr 6, 5:37 pm, Dave Craig wrote:
> I wouldn't say the Bombadil doesn't handle well off-road. I would say
> that I am uncomfortable with the handling as my bike is now
> configured. Really, the bars I'm running now are very narrow relative
> to current MTB bars (I cut them to be the same width
> Yes, I understood that. But it seems like a stretch to think that
> Rivendell designed the frame with a mountain bike bar in mind. Their
> website shows the Bombadil outfitted with various road bars: a drop
> bar, a mustache bar, and a bull moose bar.
Well, now that I look at the specs for the
"The Bullmoose bar is still unequaled for rough terrain. You're a big
guy on a big bike riding fast over rough ground, and the wide bar lets
you manhandle the bike like a monkey manipulating a peanut."
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Wow. Beautiful video! Spectacular scenery.
I wish there were more footage of the bike! How about some bike shots
in the credits?? :)
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On Apr 6, 8:52 pm, RoadieRyan wrote:
> Wonder what kind of bag that is- a Sackville medium or something else
>
It looks like it could be the small size, which is pretty big. I love
this description:
"No rack needed. No way to even attach it to a rack. It uses the
familiar, 3-point attachment t
Awesome.
1) What tires do you like? How many flats per 1,000 miles do you get?
2) How do you keep critters out of your stuff at night?
3) Do you carry any protection to ward off human predators?
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On Apr 7, 2:12 am, CycloFiend wrote:
> on 4/6/10 2:22 PM, happyriding at happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > On Apr 6, 2:34 pm, Rene Sterental wrote:
> >> I will apologize first, but do think this "triangapillar" is just
> >> taking the discussion to a s
On Apr 7, 11:26 am, doug peterson wrote:
> George:
>
> +1 to Anne's suggestion for a test to select the bike. Based on my 7
> years touring experience on my Atlantis, it'll definitely work for
> you. Do some test rides to see how you like the weight distributed.
> Others have suggested putting t
Hi,
On Apr 6, 7:21 pm, andrew hill wrote:
> Unless I've missed it, most folks have talked about the roll-up Ortliebs.
>
> I've got some newer style ones (bike packer plus), with a flap closure,
> fold-seal outer pocket, inner pocket for a few items, etc.. they are
> exceptional, and I've not
On Apr 6, 10:10 am, Dave Craig wrote:
> Interesting. Have you noted that not single person who replied to your
> post recommended the Arkel 54 panniers??
>
> Here's why I didn't:
>
> Tremendously overbuilt and oversized - this results in increased
> weight.
There is a picture of a touring bike th
Has anyone tried these panniers:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/acupofgreentea/4457931804
:)
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