Re: [RBW] Re: IRe: 2025 Atlantis pre-sale

It's like trying to buy concert tickets and the use of 'bots'! On Thursday, March 20, 2025 at 6:36:27 PM UTC-4 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote: > I reached out to Analog about the Clem's (as I missed out on a 59cm > complete/frame) and got this response: > > "Hi Drew, > > Riv, for a number of reasons

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini and Unpaved, Experience?

I have Dia Compe long reachers on my Homer, I think they're for all intents and purposes the same as the R559, have Kool Stop pads on them too. I find them pretty good, I think for any major upgrade to the performance you'd have to go to the Paul Racer which are a pretty penny. The only time I'd

Re: [RBW] Re: crack in the paint or crack in the steel?

I agree with Kai. If you don’t get rid of the paint, you’ll just be guessing. I’ve been an automotive painter for over twenty years, and I’ve seen paint cracking like that with nothing wrong with the metal underneath, besides some surface rust (or some seriously pitted rusty metal. Just depends

Re: [RBW] Bike Life Lately

@Drew, I am very happy for you that you fixed the problem with your creaking BB and found a loose crank bolt. Happy trail riding in the woods and hills ! Thank you for sharing. Kim Hetzel. On Wed, Apr 2, 2025, 6:23 PM Drew Fitchette wrote: > @Kim, > > It’s hard to say. I took the cranks

Re: [RBW] Bike Life Lately

Love this thread Leah! As an obsessive tinkerer I find that I "overwork" my bikes sometimes when I should be spending more time riding them. I've been spending time dialing my Appa in to it's current form this winter, which has brought me lots of joy and time for introspection in my makeshift

Re: [RBW] Bike Life Lately

Leah, It sounds like you're setup is currently working, so if you're happy with it, just ride! But if you continue to have problems, try the assembly grease/paste/compound. If you got $140 burning a hole in your pocket, and don't like the aesthetics and/or still concerned, buy the 31.8 Albos! Th

[RBW] Bike Life Lately

I just want to talk bikes for a little bit. Threads with subjects are great and all, but so is talking shop. And we are about to hit a spate of cold weather here in SW Michigan and I am a little morose after a few days of Pretend Spring. I did get 25 miles in today and Monday, but now I want to

[RBW] Re: Road derailer good for a little gravel?

I have a 9 speed (6402? I think) long cage Ultegra and it handles a 11-28 11-speed cassette in friction mode just fine. I don’t remember the chain wrap, but my 26-42 chainrings don’t stress it. I could probably get it to work with a 11-30. I take that bike on packed dirt all the time. On Friday

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Yellowolly bicycle - now tariffs and bicycles

That's true, but I think a lot of people don't realize how thin the margins on bikes are. Expensive frames and bikes generally have about a 30% margin. If that's what Riv gets on a $1750 Atlantis, that means wholesale cost is $1225. If there's a 32% tariff on a $1225 product, that's a $392 f

[RBW] Re: The Charlie Gallop Thread

That ano is the business! Where'd you get it done? As to the Charlie as a bike, I didn't get it when I first saw it. It's kind of a weird bike at first glance: semi-step-through frame, swept bars... caliper brakes? It didn't make sense. Then I visited Riv WHQ, and actually rode the thing. And n

Re: [RBW] FS: Craigslist, etc 2025

NOS 50cm Roscoe Bubbe in Connecticut https://hartford.craigslist.org/bik/d/suffield-rivendell-rosco-platypus-50cm/7823873920.html On Thursday, March 20, 2025 at 8:03:44 AM UTC-4 Josh C wrote: > 62cm Road for a pretty penny. > https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-road-st

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Yellowolly bicycle - now tariffs and bicycles

It is important to note that, as pointed out in the Rene Herse article, the tariff is on the cost of the imported item, the “wholesale” price, not the retail price. Laing Conley On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 2:08 PM Ryan wrote: > On this topic, Jan Heine's latest journal entry posted yesterday may be

[RBW] Re: Perfect Mix of Silver and Black

Allow me to tip my hat to Dave Kirk, as well. That looks like a fantastic all-weather sport bike. --Shannon On Friday, April 4, 2025 at 3:33:53 PM UTC-7 cjus...@gmail.com wrote: > Thanks Steve! Yes, custom Clockwork Bikes racks. I really like the > innovative and minimalist design of the rear

[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Yellowolly bicycle

@Will, In the last several days, I have emailed Will at RBW headquarters. I have asked him about the YelloWolloy bicycle and tariffs. As far as the pricing of the YelloWolloy for the complete bike he stated, "We're hoping for $2200, but we fell into the same trap that we did with Clems: we s

[RBW] Re: Suggestions on changes to Joe Appaloosa.

Jim, you might try an 11-42 10 speed cassette. 11-46s are also available. Of course, depending on the capacity of your rear derailleur, you could wind up needing to replace it. But having said that, I have found that Shimano RDs are often able to function well beyond their published specs by b

[RBW] Re: FS: BagsXBird, Nitto Fillet FacePlater, Microshift, More

Tosco, VO stem, and MS downtube shifters are all SOLD. Still holding the rest of the stuff so hope this bump helps! PS - the Tektro levers are 22.2mm On Wednesday, April 2, 2025 at 7:25:55 PM UTC-4 Jeffrey Zelevansky wrote: > Sorry to spam the listit's been pointed out to me that the Tosco

[RBW] Re: Perfect Mix of Silver and Black

Not to derail from the superb silver & black builds, but that metallic green Rambouillet is nicest color I've seen on any Ram – sorry orange fans. Ben, was this a stock color? I've only seen orange and blue Rams IRL. I think there are some dark forest green frames out there, but this one looks

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie/Wolbis first rides

Hi Jason, Thanks for replying. Would you mind sharing a few more details about your setup as it's something it may consider for a future build? Especially your cassette range (max cog at the back) and rear derailer. I'm never too sure how far I can go above any derailer max cog or capacity so i

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Yellowolly bicycle

@Diana, The other day, I emailed Will at RBW headquarters, and I asked about the down tube as to whether or not it was lower than the Clem. He said that "it is higher than the Clem to make room for the lifter bar." Kim Hetzel. On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 6:27 AM Diana H wrote: > Looks like the dow

Re: [RBW] Bike Life Lately

My chiropractor says it's better to have my two bikes be set up different, as I'm using different muscles, etc.I dig this. I have six bikes and only two are close to having the same stack and reach (those are track bikes with lots of seatpost showing and slammed stems, one with bullmoose bars and o

[RBW] WTB Rene Herse or Other Randonneur Bar

I'd like to waste a little money and time replacing a perfectly good setup. Can anyone help? Looking for 42-44cm width (hood-to-hood) with some flare to accommodate basket/bag. 31.8, 26 or 25.4 clamp is fine. Thanks! Zac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gr

Re: [RBW] Modern Geometry Atlantis with Drop Bars?

Chris, another good resource for questions like this is Bike Insights . If you have a dropbar bike setup that you know works for you, figuring out what the difference in stack and reach is easy on BI

[RBW] Re: Advice: Bike Storage Solutions?

I know man, excessive, but fun and basically my only hobby these days. On Thursday, March 20, 2025 at 6:27:30 PM UTC-4 Drew Fitchette wrote: > Dang Josh, That Gus, Atlantis, Hunq, Custom(?) combo is impressive! > > Picked up the Delta rugged rack today and going to do some reworking of > our s

[RBW] Re: crack in the paint or crack in the steel?

That's a bummer situation for you and the seller both. I would ride it without concern unless quite a heavy rider, but agree that is more than just paint. It's certainly fair to ask for a partial refund to help cover the cost of repair if it ends up needing it - I am imagining you would rather

Re: [RBW] Bike Life Lately

If you are not riding big tires in dubious terrain, I don't believe there is a benefit to tubeless. I have 5 bikes set up tubeless; I am not at all certain it's saved me from much of anything, but it does give me piece of mind in running low pressures on singletrack amid the new england rocks.

Re: [RBW] Re: IRe: 2025 Atlantis pre-sale

Alfonso, from what I understand Blue Lug get their frames direct from Taiwan. There is no pre import to the US and back out to Japan. Not in the market as I have 6 Rivs already, but I was idly wondering what it would take to rebuild my 47 650b Roadini to an Atlantis. Currently have 46cm Appa (

Re: [RBW] Re: Why bicycle racing is completely irrelevant

I’ve never ridden CF, tho’ someone once very kindly gave me a Calfee Ruby frameset — the tt was too long by a cm and I gave it to my taller brother. I should rent a cf road bike or whatever niche subcategory best fits my aging body and give the genre a try. My 1999 Riv Road custom fixed gear weigh

[RBW] Re: No More Plastic Water Bottles for Me

I too, am trying to move away from plastic. My wife and I are two thumbs up on the Bivo bottles and I'll get another for our daughter soon. Only time will tell how long the silicone coating protects the bottles, but I've never minded the "beautification" on my Clean Kanteen! On Thursday, Apr

[RBW] Road derailer good for a little gravel?

Do any of you folks have experience using rough phrases like a Shimano 10% OR Ultegra For relatively tame gravel riding forest roads, things like that? Do they work okay? Or do I need something with a strong clutch -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [RBW] RivATB sighting

Please to share article? --Shannon On Friday, April 4, 2025 at 6:25:44 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote: > Somewhere I have that magazine article, they compare a Riv AR to a > Cannondale full suspension mountain bike. > > Eric > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 8:58 AM Ted Durant wrote: > >> My Apple News fe

[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Yellowolly bicycle

@Bill, I work in Import/Export(coffee specifically). and have been on a ton of calls trying to get clarity on things re: these blanket/reciprocal tariffs. What I've been able to gather thus far is: - Any goods with a Bill of Landing (BOL) of April 4th or earlier will not be affec

[RBW] Re: Road derailer good for a little gravel?

I remember pro MTB racers using Dura Ace rear derailleurs back in the late 80's / early 90s. Lighter, a bit more ground clearance, and those guys were strong enough to never need more than a 1:1 gear, so why not? Suntour's whole "MicroDrive" thing was basically the same idea, just marketed dif

[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Yellowolly bicycle

Oh also: Japan now has an additional 24% tariff, which may be applied to folks buying frames from Blue Lug... though it sounds like folks have had various experiences with paying or not paying import duties when buying from them in the past. On Friday, April 4, 2025 at 11:09:44 AM UTC-4 Drew

[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Yellowolly bicycle

"done with my boring global trade talk" A. it's not boring to me B. Fridays are dead on the group, so something to talk about is always cool C. there's a lot of Riv-business-content in there That's a significantly impactful set of IF/THEN scenarios for these Atlantis customers and their business

[RBW] Re: Road derailer good for a little gravel?

"experience using rough phrases like a Shimano 10%" I'm pretty sure 10% is a mistype of 105, but I don't know what "rough phrases" means or if it's an auto-correct thing. Whatever the wording, lots of people use road derailleurs on gravel, and they work as well as the set up allows and as we

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Yellowolly bicycle

Minor quibble here of no real consequence but; I think what folks are referring to here is the top tube (if it’s higher or lower than a Clem or Platy) not the down tube? It’s tricky as these step through frames do not have a traditional top tube. The down tube connects to the bottom bracket which c

[RBW] Re: Road derailer good for a little gravel?

I am currently running an 8 speed Shimano 105 short cage derailleur on a 12/26 cassette with a 22/32/42 crankset on a '94 Stumpjumper and it works quite well. Nice tight range, no chain slap that I can hear, and no issues shifting. On Friday, April 4, 2025 at 11:28:32 AM UTC-4 shannon@gmai

Re: [RBW] Road derailer good for a little gravel?

Tame gravel riding? I’ve been using road derailleurs on dirt for years and they work fine. Currently a Dura Ace 7402 which shifts my 10 cogs just fine. Long ago I used a short cage 8-sp Ultegra on a Specialized Stumpjumper Team; with the longer mtb derailleur hanger it shifted a 7 sp 14-32 cassett

Re: [RBW] Road derailer good for a little gravel?

Forgot to add that the 7402 shifts the knobby-wheelset 14-28 just fine; I’d bet $15 that it would accommodate a 30 with B screw properly screwed in. 44/28 X 14-28 knobby gearing/44/28 13-25 fat slick gearing. On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 10:59 AM Patrick Moore wrote: > Tame gravel riding? I’ve been u

Re: [RBW] Bike Life Lately

Oh, I like that thought, Jay. That we get to use different muscles with different bars - this is genius and whey hadn’t we thought of it?I have vacillated between wanting everything the same - because I prefer something and then all other things are less and my mind won’t stop comparing - and wanti

[RBW] WTB Gus or Susie

ISO/WTB 57 or 60 Gus. Would do a Susie as well in similar sizes. Prefer frame and fork but happy to buy built bike. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, se

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie/Wolbis first rides

Hi Alfonso, Unfortunately I don't have exact model numbers but my drivetrain setup is: - Silver cranks with 38/24 stock rings - Shimano XT 11-42 11 speed cassette - Shimano 11 speed chain - Shimano XTR 11 speed trigger shifter - Shimano XT 11 speed rear derailleur (pretty ugly, has a clutch but

[RBW] Roadini Sizing

Good morning everyone! I'm looking to get prepared before the roadini launch later this year - I'm just slightly confused about sizing. I have an 85.5ish PBH, so I'm straddling the line of both the 57 and 54. I know Grant has a funky philosophy on sizing, but man is it hard narrowing it down.

[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Yellowolly bicycle

It's pretty smart that they didn't declare a price or even a price target for the YelloWolleY, because whatever that price was, there is now a significant variable on what it may be months in the future. I hope that Rivendell has already paid for the Atlantis pre-sale so that they can deliver

Re: [RBW] RivATB sighting

Eric: yes please, if you can find it. The photo shows why there’s been a love/hate attitude toward drop bars on mountain bikes, at least before the advent of very shallow flared bars that let you sit pretty upright while using the hooks. I know that 30-35 years ago I could never get drops position

[RBW] Re: No More Plastic Water Bottles for Me

Over the past few years I seem to have developed a sensitivity to the taste of plastic in my drinking water. It started with Camelback bladders and then began to include most bicycle water bottles. My theory is that I've become so saturated with micro plastics that my taste buds are trying to w

[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Yellowolly bicycle - now tariffs and bicycles

On this topic, Jan Heine's latest journal entry posted yesterday may be of interest... https://www.renehersecycles.com/bikes-in-the-age-of-tariffs/ On Friday, April 4, 2025 at 10:35:17 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote: > "done with my boring global trade talk" > > A. it's not boring to me > B. Frid

Re: [RBW] Bike Life Lately

Billl, thank you for that. Totally makes sense! I certainly am not riding much in my 44x11, if at all. I was spinning my 34x11 out on some downhills but Certainly won't be needing to go 40mph! Kim, I definitely need to take it all apart and have a look. I fortunately spent the weekend riding m

Re: [RBW] Bike Life Lately

> On Mar 23, 2025, at 8:50 PM, Leah Peterson wrote: > > Ben, I loved reading about that ride. Night ride with the moon and mountain = > magic. But I wouldn’t have wanted to do it alone. I’ve never heard of a bike > relay - so you did your segments all solo? When did you get to hang with your

[RBW] Re: Do you actually step through your Clem or Platypus?

I do! Hot tip below…I get a little confused when it’s me and Charlie though… https://vimeo.com/798500752 Leah On Thursday, March 20, 2025 at 6:52:37 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote: > I tend to step thru but not always. > > My issue is when I tried to step thru my top tubed Homer Hilsen the other > day.

[RBW] Re: FS: New 60cm Hillborne Frameset

Is that Lime Olive? On Saturday, March 22, 2025 at 11:30:08 PM UTC-4 Paul M wrote: > Hello, I purchased this new old stock frameset from Blue Lug Bike Shop > last month with the intention of building up a drop bar road bike. It > unfortunately is too large for me. Fits PBH of 89cm plus. As new

Re: [RBW] Bike Life Lately

Leah, Well, you got my attention now! Haha. A few things: 1. Soma/Merry sales sells an aluminum 31.8 clamp Albatross bar . It's 1 cm wider (56 vs Riv's 55), but still narrower th

Re: [RBW] Bike Life Lately

I haven’t tried these, but noticed them on the Rene Herse site yesterday - TPU tubes. They might be a good solution for the mermaid bike if you don’t want to deal with sealant issues, but don’t want to use the standard butyl tubes either. They say they are a little thicker than the TPU tubes

[RBW] Re: FS 2021 Sam Hillborne 54cm Frame & Fork in Los Angeles

I think it's just a soft market right now. You may have better luck in a month when tax refunds are in. Joe Bernard On Wednesday, April 2, 2025 at 1:23:21 PM UTC-7 fres...@gmail.com wrote: > All! > > I'd love some feedback on my frame/fork pricing. I've had minimal offers, > which is slightl

[RBW] FS: BagsXBird, Nitto, Microshift, More

PHOTOS ARE HERE Trying to clear things out as I get my bike dialed in...and happily getting close to being done! Don't be shy about making a reasonable offer. Please reach out fo

Re: [RBW] Winter Photos 2024/2025

Hey Jay, they are Albatross bars. The grips are ESI. Cheers On Monday, March 17, 2025 at 8:03:26 PM UTC-4 Jay wrote: > Oliver - what bars are those? I like the look with them, and the blue > grips and orange frame are a nice combo, I think. > > On Monday, March 17, 2025 at 8:01:32 PM UTC-4 Ja

[RBW] Re: WTB Nitto MCR65 Stem

Out of curiosity I Googled the MCR65 -- it looks like Blue Lug has them back in stock. I agree, good looking stem! On Wednesday, March 19, 2025 at 6:11:22 PM UTC-4 diegol...@gmail.com wrote: > Long shot, I know, but I was wondering if anyone had and would be willing > to sell me a Nitto MCR65

Re: [RBW] Re: YelloWolley

I view the Rivendell "lighter tubes" comments with a grain of salt. Its usually marginal. I assumed the roadiness part referred to a different geometry. It looks to have a smaller wheelbase than a Clem. Their completes have been coming really well spec'd. I think its smart for them to move that

Re: [RBW] Bike Life Lately

"at a moderate spin of 110RPM" Bill, is that an April Fool's joke? I don't consider myself a masher, but to me a "moderate spin" is much lower than that. My preferred cadence is closer to 90 RPM :) Anyways, everything else you said is sound logic in terms of 38T x 29" wheels vs 34T x 27.5" and

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Yellowolly bicycle

It’s not at all boring. And, the politics of it all are unavoidable. I really hope it’s not the end of Rivendell.Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 4, 2025, at 11:09 AM, Drew Fitchette wrote:@Bill,I work in Import/Export(coffee specifically). and have been on a ton of calls trying to get clarity on things

[RBW] Riv-Mini Velo

I would love to see a Riv 20 incher. Velo Orange and Crust have some nice ones, it'd be interesting to see Riv's take on a apartment/city dweller format. *Does anybody have a riv-adjacent 20 incher they'd like to showcase?* Im sure it would sell-out in an instant! I can see a V-Brake, lugged

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie/Wolbis first rides

Hi Jason, Thank you for the parts list, that is really useful. I thought you may be running one of those massive pizza size 11-50T cassettes - I couldn't judge well from the pictures. I'm in some sort of quest trying to find out what is the lowest granny gear people are getting from their Silver d

[RBW] Re: Perfect Mix of Silver and Black

Justus, that Rosco-Bubbe is sharp! Love the custom (?) racks. Sheeweet!!! Steve in AVL On Friday, April 4, 2025 at 3:23:19 PM UTC-4 cjus...@gmail.com wrote: > I have 2 bikes that purposefully seek to blend black and silver in as > pleasing a way as possible. The use of old 8 and 9 speed XT bl

[RBW] Re: FS 2021 Sam Hillborne 54cm Frame & Fork in Los Angeles

I'm Joe, I'm not the OP, not selling a bike. I'm not going to be talked to like that from a newbie pounding around here with a bad attitude. I've been on this group from the beginning, been following Rivendell from the beginning. Are we clear? On Thursday, April 3, 2025 at 3:04:50 PM UTC-7 m f

Re: [RBW] Re: IRe: 2025 Atlantis pre-sale

And only a couple of those! Continuing the parallel discussion, I'd bet it would have been frustrating even for Rivendell to not have enough, if they felt like they might have missed some sales and left money on the table. Let's assume they ordered exactly the right number. That's impressive

[RBW] Re: Do you actually step through your Clem or Platypus?

My Platypus-like custom is too tall for the step-through. I always step through my Clem L. On Thursday, March 20, 2025 at 7:56:43 AM UTC-7 Andy Beichler wrote: > This is not exactly an important question but I am curious. I bought a > Yuba cargo bike last Fall. It has a low top tube to make

[RBW] Re: Perfect Mix of Silver and Black

Thanks Steve! Yes, custom Clockwork Bikes racks. I really like the innovative and minimalist design of the rear rack in particular. An unexpected and appreciated design. -Justus Mpls, MN On Friday, April 4, 2025 at 4:52:53 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com wrote: > > Justus, that Rosco-Bubbe is