Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

" I like the idea of a front shifted 2x1 or 3x1 setup. If planning on such a setup I'd probably just get a Homer vs the Roaduno because I always end up wanting fenders on a bike like this and vertical dropouts make fenders so much easier. But I do see that the Roaduno with its 120mm rear spacing

[RBW] ISO: Trail Bike

Asking for my little brother who lives in Flagstaff AZ and wants his first “good bike” to go trail riding and bikepacking with his friends. He has a pretty good budget but cant go over $1400. It might not be a Riv. I persuaded one brother to get on a Riv (a Sam). but this brother needs somethi

[RBW] Re: FS: Dynamo gear and Nitto handlebars (SF Bay)

I'm interested in the Dynamo. I sent a PM. On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 at 2:55:47 AM UTC-5 CMR wrote: > Kite bars and Nitto rack sold, albatross bars pending. > > Regarding the question: I am only selling because of a lifestyle > adjustment. I realized 99% of my rides are a mile long and durin

Re: [RBW] ISO: Trail Bike

Trigger warning: opinions regarding "modern mountain bikes." For $1400 I'd watch the local Craigslist and Facebook marketplace listings for a used hardtail from 2016ish or later. Something with 69 to 66 (ish) HTA. 29er/700 tubeless ready wheels (27.5/650 is OK too) at least 2.3" wide. 1x drive

Re: [RBW] ISO: Trail Bike

Jones bikes were being discussed in another thread, they have some pretty steep discounts at the moment. If your brother fits either a small or large (seems theyre out of mediums) he could get a SWB v2 for $1295. https://jonesbikes.com/jones-plus-swb-v2-complete-bike/ On Wednesday, February 7,

Re: [RBW] ISO: Trail Bike

That Jones is an absolute no-brainer answer to the op question. That is a screaming deal!Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 7, 2024, at 9:59 AM, Stephen wrote:Jones bikes were being discussed in another thread, they have some pretty steep discounts at the moment. If your brother fits either a small or lar

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

Patrick asks, "Andrew: Do you use a QR axle on your flip flop hub? I switched from 17 and 19 cogs on either side of my Phil to a 17/19 Dingle so that with the QR axle it's very, very easy and quick to change cogs." I have a threaded through-axle with big heavy 17mm nuts, front and back. And I c

[RBW] Best practice with Sunrace Thumbshifters

Brief background, my wife's 1995 B'Stone X0-5 thumb shifters died after a mild crash. I replaced them with the beautiful Sunrace thumbies from the mothership website. Now she complains... She has Dove bars (like Albatross but more straight-back at the grips) and cork grips, and she was used to

[RBW] Re: Best practice with Sunrace Thumbshifters

The way to get more cable pull out of a given shifter is to increase the barrel diameter. That's not straightforward. If she hates the location as well, it's worth deciding if she wants a different shifter with a larger barrel diameter. The way to get more derailleur motion out of a fixed q

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

" I have a threaded through-axle with big heavy 17mm nuts, front and back. And I carry a Park bottle opener with 17mm socket on the end to remove the wheels." Er, make that 15mm... I was thinking of motorcycle parts at the same time. - Andrew -- You received this message because you are subsc

[RBW] Updates/Upgrades

Hey Owners Bunch Family, I'm wondering for those of you out there who ride multiple days a week(or more), how often do you tinker with your setup to keep things interesting? I've recently given my Atlantis a bit of a makeover(rather than sell it as I was feeling inclined to do), in an attempt t

Re: [RBW] Updates/Upgrades

For me, learning what I really want, and then buying or building that instead of trying to make something that isn't that into something that I want, has taken decades and thousands of dollars. For instance, it took 17 years to accept that the lovely 2003 Curt Goodrich Riv Road custom just didn't r

[RBW] Re: FS: Sun Hoodie Lot

I'd like to find these a good home so $50 takes em all! On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 8:50:38 AM UTC-6 Dave Grossman wrote: > I have a surplus of Sun/Riding/Baselayer/Fishing hoodies and I'd like to > pass them on in a bulk buy. > > All 7 are in good condition, some with more wear and some stai

Re: [RBW] Updates/Upgrades

I should add that all of what I recommended presumes that you've got a basic idea of or "feel" for what you do want a bike to ride like. If you are still in the experimental stage, there's nothing like just riding lots and lots of different bikes to make the idea or feel more precise. On Wed, Feb

Re: [RBW] Updates/Upgrades

Thanks Patrick, appreciate your insight. I bought this frame thinking the bike would be my "swiss army knife", but I actually find the longboard feel leaves a bit to be desired in terms of "get up and go" That being said, no matter how much I load it up with, the ride quality feels exactly the

[RBW] Re: Updates/Upgrades

A new bike or setup is the easy way to re-engage with riding - "I've done enough of (x) I want to try (y) so I need a ." I have built lots of bikes because my tendency is to want to start with a new canvas and to not give up what I have. I also really enjoy the process of conceptualizing and bu

[RBW] ISO: A long rear rack

I picked up a cool Dutch twin panniers in Amsterdam for my Platy. I'm putting the large saddlesack and R14 rack on the shelf a bit. The double panniers looked so tiny on the big city bikes, but I can't find a bike rack in the US that has a platform 400mm (15.75 inches) long. Does anyone have a

Re: [RBW] ISO: A long rear rack

You need a Jaand Expedition rear rack.I might have one in the garage and will check after 5pm but if so, it won’t be very attractive. Liz in Sacramento On Feb 7, 2024, at 12:00, Tom Wyland wrote:I picked up a cool Dutch twin panniers in Amsterdam for my Platy. I'm putting the large saddlesack and

[RBW] Re: Best practice with Sunrace Thumbshifters

Andrew, I have one each SunRace shifter and Silver2 to compare. The barrels appear to be the same diameter but the SunRace is notably further from the bar, and the lever is a smidge longer. Both distance issues are going to create the sensation that she's reaching further and pulling the lever

Re: [RBW] ISO: Trail Bike

I think most of us here would be happier on a Jones than a more traditional modern MTB, but we are definitely the outliers. I agree with John's take, unless they too are someone who puts considerable value in doing things the simple, timeless way with lower maintenance and willingness to walk t

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO 54 cm Roadini

Thanks for the link, I saw that one as well, unfortunately too big. On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 4:51:21 PM UTC-5 Lucky wrote: > I was just thinking I had seen one recently but it’s a 57. Nonetheless > here’s the link: > > [image: 418748400_7019085838173016_3719984432333502610_n.jpg] > > Riv

[RBW] Re: B17 alternatives

I've tried the Selle Anatomica Titanico saddle which is great but I felt like it hammocked me too much... almost to the point where it was "too broken in". I went back to the B17 and I definitely plan on trying the Aspin on my next build. On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 11:55:33 PM UTC-5 bren

Re: [RBW] Re: Why baskets and front bags instead of rear panniers or perfect Rivendell saddlebags?

Nice marmot. On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 7:51:18 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote: > My pet marmot much prefers to ride in the airy, open basket rather than > buckled in the dark recesses of my Sackville. It's a thing of beauty to > watch the wind whip through her fur and hear the whistle throug

[RBW] Re: ISO 54 cm Roadini

Hey Doug, Sure thing, it’s 80.4 and 5’8. On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 4:30:04 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote: > Judd, > I was in the same boat recently, actually still am. Can I ask what your > height and PBH is for reference? > Doug > > On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 4:20:19 PM UTC-5 Judd L

[RBW] Susie Build

I bought a susie frame from a group member here so I figured I'd share the end product. Wolbis Slugstone Part list: Teravail 2.5/2.6 knobbies velocity cliff hangers shutter precision dynamo front hub shima

[RBW] Carradice Audax lightweight bag and Expedition rack with QR (NOS)

UK made Carradice Audax lightweight bag (NOS/black) and Expedition support with QR support (NOS)...$170 shipped for all plus fees...thanks...$155 picked up in Pittsburgh. I can send photos if you reach out with an email, but the links are a good resource. As a clarification, this includes the b

[RBW] Susie / Appaloosa indecision

Hey Everyone. I'm seriously torn between a lugged Susie and an Appaloosa later this year. Help me commit! I commute and run errands (no question that's most of my mileage), but fun rides are always in seek of trails with pavement as needed: day rides plus occasional camping. I think each bike i

[RBW] What drop bar do you use on your Riv?

Hi All! I currently have an Albatross bar on my Homer, which I love. I also love doing bar swaps from time to time on my bikes as it can make the bike feel like a completely different bike. I'm curious to hear what drop bars folks are running on whatever Rivendell you happen to own? I've consi

[RBW] WTB - Hub Area Bags

Hello, Would anyone happen to have a set of Hub Area Rack (HAR) Bags they are not using? I managed to find a rack, but have not been able to find the bags. Thanks, Daniel Knoxville TN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsu

Re: [RBW] WTB 650b conversion parts for Riv Road Standard

I have the Tektro brakes and a Clem 650b wheelset that I ran on my Bleriot until recently. The wheels are 135 spaced in the rear, don't know if that works, and the rear hub needs an overhaul (easy cup and cone job). Let me know if you're interested. - Fred Mount Prospect, Il On Thursday, May 25

Re: [RBW] Susie / Appaloosa indecision

Others here can no doubt offer more experienced opinions but, I would get the Susie and an extra set of wheels. One with 2.5”-2.6” knobbies (Honcho, Ehline) for singletrack or other off road stuff (backpacking), and the other with 2.0” - 2.25 smoothish tires for more roadish use. Susie is such a ve

Re: [RBW] Susie / Appaloosa indecision

I would recommend the Appaloosa. If you're primary use is commuting and grocery getting there isn't a better bicycle then the Joe A. You could put a decent size knobbie tire on there is you wanted. I had Schwalbe Thunder Burts on mine which made it great for road and great for the occasional off

[RBW] Re: What drop bar do you use on your Riv?

I'm using the Crust X Nitto Shaka bar on my 62cm Sam Hillborne. So far this is a great set up. I've had Albatross bars, Albastache bars, Noodles, Salsa Wood Chipper bars and not the Shaka's. I had a super long stem on the Albatross bars. 13 cm to be exact when I switched to drop bars I shortened

[RBW] Re: Intro post, pics of my RIvs, and a Homer fit question

Here are a few thoughts: People who know exactly what works for them figure it out over a long time with lots of bikes, and have a set of numbers in their pocket so they can know before buying whether a particular will set up correctly for them. It sounds like you don't have that all figured o

Re: [RBW] What drop bar do you use on your Riv?

I've tried several varieties of Moustache bar, ever so many wide and flared drop bars starting with the original WTB bar, any number of "tourist" bars, straightish and sweepback, all sorts of straight mtb bars with and without bar ends, and various anatomical road bars (uck, agh, yuck, ptooey, gag,

Re: [RBW] What drop bar do you use on your Riv?

Oh, after the Maes Parallel, the Noodle and the Nitto B135 rando bars were next in comfort. I used to use Nitto 185s 3" below saddle. I switched to longer reach bars -- Noodle, B 135, Maes Parallel and VO clone -- 3 *centimeters* below saddle. I kept the same 8 cm stems; the reach is about the sam

[RBW] Re: Intro post, pics of my RIvs, and a Homer fit question

I would try the shorter stem. I have a Sam that I initially thought was too long for me, even though I'm smack dab in the middle of the charts for PBH sizing. (My legs are long, my torso not so much.) I installed a 7 cm stem (from a 10 cm ) and it made enough of a difference for me to get comf

Re: [RBW] Re: Intro post, pics of my RIvs, and a Homer fit question

I've had similar reach issues before, including on my Sam Hillborne. I've found I like the Soma Hwy One and the Nitto/Blue Lug Fairweather 174 bars. They both have shorter reach and less drop than the Noodle (I'm guessing that's what you have?). The drops on the Soma bars come back pretty far and c

[RBW] Re: Susie Build

That is a handsome bike! Did you set the Cliffhangers up tubeless? If so how did it go? On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 8:23:06 AM UTC+11 Ben Hannon wrote: > I bought a susie frame from a group member here so I figured I'd share the > end product. > > Wolbis Slugstone >

Re: [RBW] Susie / Appaloosa indecision

Tough call, based on your stated criteria and preferences. I don't think you could go wrong, but I don't have the direct experience for a comparison. I have a Susie and a bunch of other Rivs, but my All Rounder is the closest analog to the Appaloosa. (If you cosider Appaloosa evolved from t

[RBW] Re: FS: 1997 Road Standard - 57cm on the Ebay

Wow...that is nice...looks like it is in immaculate condition...and more than fair price...a classic On Wednesday, February 7, 2024 at 3:23:32 PM UTC-6 Bryan R wrote: > Just listed this. > > Honor to have owned and ridden. > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/256399897887 > > > -- You received this m

[RBW] Re: Intro post, pics of my RIvs, and a Homer fit question

Thanks Bill, I don't have my bike fit completey figure out yet. I used to bike a lot more 20 years ago (mountain biking) and have recently gotten back into riding. To your point, I am hoping to get a professional bike fit sometime in the near future. (Nate Loyal seems well-recommended and revi

Re: [RBW] Re: Why baskets and front bags instead of rear panniers or perfect Rivendell saddlebags?

The marmot abides. On Wednesday, February 7, 2024 at 1:21:18 PM UTC-8 Jacob Kersey wrote: > Nice marmot. > > On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 7:51:18 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote: > >> My pet marmot much prefers to ride in the airy, open basket rather than >> buckled in the dark recesses of my Sac

[RBW] Re: Susie Build

There is nothing quite like the look of a fillet-brazed ATB. Beautiful build. On Wednesday, February 7, 2024 at 6:21:32 PM UTC-5 DTL wrote: > That is a handsome bike! > Did you set the Cliffhangers up tubeless? If so how did it go? > On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 8:23:06 AM UTC+11 Ben Hannon

[RBW] Re: Intro post, pics of my RIvs, and a Homer fit question

You can compare the geometry of the Homer against your Breezer on bikeinsights.com. Worth a look to find the differences On Wednesday, February 7, 2024 at 7:06:31 PM UTC-5 eitanz...@gmail.com wrote: > Thanks Bill, I don't have my bike fit completey figure out yet. I used to > bike a lot more

[RBW] Re: Intro post, pics of my RIvs, and a Homer fit question

When comparing, give a good look at seat tube angle. Rivendells are more laid back than most. Many people just slide their saddle all the way back out of habit, and on a Rivendell, that may put you an inch or more further back than on some other bikes with a 74 degree seat tube angle. If the

[RBW] Re: Susie / Appaloosa indecision

I had an Appaloosa for a while and a Susie for not very long, didn't ride either on dirt. I liked the Susie better based on I couldn't even eat, it was just more interesting to me.* I'm sure this isn't very helpful! *I wish I'd kept the Susie, it was sold during a bunch of drama I won't bore y

[RBW] Re: Susie / Appaloosa indecision

*based on I couldn't even say* TYPOS! On Wednesday, February 7, 2024 at 5:36:45 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote: > I had an Appaloosa for a while and a Susie for not very long, didn't ride > either on dirt. I liked the Susie better based on I couldn't even eat, it > was just more interesting to me.

Re: [RBW] Susie / Appaloosa indecision

I agree with Richard. Although both would serve your needs, if there is any chance you’ll ride some singletrack, I’d wholeheartedly get the suze. 2.6” tires with that long wheelbase is a riot. Caveat is I only have a 6 mile round trip commute. And grocery is 6 mile trip. So any bike works. If y

[RBW] Re: Susie Build

Congratulations! Looks ready to make some great memories. Looks like grips are some Ergon's wrapped in newbaums? On Wednesday, February 7, 2024 at 4:37:01 PM UTC-8 thetaper...@gmail.com wrote: > There is nothing quite like the look of a fillet-brazed ATB. Beautiful > build. > > On Wednesday,

[RBW] Re: Susie Build

Also, the 25.4 faceplater had no issues clamping that 26.0 handlebar? On Wednesday, February 7, 2024 at 5:59:18 PM UTC-8 Armand Kizirian wrote: > Congratulations! Looks ready to make some great memories. > > Looks like grips are some Ergon's wrapped in newbaums? > > On Wednesday, February 7, 202

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO 54 cm Roadini

Will from Rivendell would recommend a 50 for you as he did for me. I'm 5'10" (almost) with an 83 PBH. My saddle height is 71.5 cm. But, I'm still thinking I would prefer a 54. Doug On Wednesday, February 7, 2024 at 4:21:17 PM UTC-5 Judd Levy wrote: > Thanks for the link, I saw that one as well,

[RBW] Re: Susie Build

Thanks everyone! Regarding the cliffhangers, these are set up tubed, but I do have a pair in 26 that have been tubeless for over a year without issues. Grips are ergon ga-3s wrapped in newbaums, correct. No issues with the 26.0 in 25.4. I think the argument could be made that it's less likely t

[RBW] Re: Intro post, pics of my RIvs, and a Homer fit question

I suggest measuring the distance form the tip of the saddle to the line between the brake levers on the Breezer if this bike fits you. Measure the same on the AHH. I think you will find the Breezer has a shorter distance. You can then see how much length reduction each change will make. T

RE: [RBW] What drop bar do you use on your Riv?

Tried several including Rene Hearse Randonner & found the bends in the bar left little room for the hands. Have Settled on the Nitto “noodle” that Riv sells Nitto number is 177. I find the bends & drop just right and the Tops & ramps roomy. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of

Re: [RBW] Susie / Appaloosa indecision

I agree about the name, I'm mystified that they dropped Gus Boots-Willsen. On Wednesday, February 7, 2024 at 5:48:43 PM UTC-8 Hoch in ut wrote: > I agree with Richard. Although both would serve your needs, if there is > any chance you’ll ride some singletrack, I’d wholeheartedly get the suze.

[RBW] Re: Susie / Appaloosa indecision

They are different bikes, so the only smart move is one of each. BL in EC On Wednesday, February 7, 2024 at 1:23:50 PM UTC-8 BrianT wrote: > Hey Everyone. I'm seriously torn between a lugged Susie and an Appaloosa > later this year. Help me commit! > > I commute and run errands (no question t

Re: [RBW] ISO: A long rear rack

Tom, unfortunately my Jaand is the regular non-expedition rack which is going to be about an inch too short.But it’s yours for shipping if you want. Message me off list. On Feb 7, 2024, at 13:14, Tom Wyland wrote:Thanks, Liz.The irony is that the rack is like 90% covered by the pannier.  TomResto

[RBW] WTB: Paul Canti Levers & Mini Moto Brakes

Looking for exactly whats in the subject. I don't really care too much about color just tell me what you got! Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e

[RBW] Re: WTB: Paul Canti Levers & Mini Moto Brakes

I have a set of levers. They are the older ones with the big hollow barrel pivot, not a bearing. They are currently on a bike, but I could be talked into removing them. I'd ask $80 plus a USPS flat rate box. They are black. If you are interested, I'll snap photos. Bill On Wednesday, Feb

[RBW] Re: Intro post, pics of my RIvs, and a Homer fit question

What are the sizes of your Riv frames? On Wednesday, February 7, 2024 at 4:06:31 PM UTC-8 eitanz...@gmail.com wrote: > Thanks Bill, I don't have my bike fit completey figure out yet. I used to > bike a lot more 20 years ago (mountain biking) and have recently gotten > back into riding. To yo

[RBW] Re: Intro post, pics of my RIvs, and a Homer fit question

First of all, "welcome," and beautiful bikes! I'd encourage you not to give up on getting the appaloosa to fit, even if it requires some out-of-the-box solutions, or thinking in diferrent ways than you're accustomed or predisposed to. Put some miles on it and get to know it intimately. And t

[RBW] Re: Intro post, pics of my RIvs, and a Homer fit question

I said "bosco," but meant "chaco." The first ones, on the first run of appaloosas, were the bullmoose version. (The bosco was designed, coincidentally, in tandem with a model that was also originally going to be called the Appaloosa, but never went beyond prototype form. It's usually referr

[RBW] Re: VO Rando Rolling Chasis

Alrighty, its quiet out there... I'm open to parting out the chassis, and dropping the price for the whole enchilada to $900 plus split shipping from 94702 (probably around $40-60). Frame/Fork/headset - $650 plus "we split the shipping" from 94702. Will still include the barrel adjusters... Grand

[RBW] Re: Best practice with Sunrace Thumbshifters

Joe, yes, she's also a pure friction shifter. I'm looking into how I can increase the diameter of the barrel OR gain leverage on the ancient front Derailer. And honestly folks, I get that these are ideal for "inside" mounting to use both thumb and fingers to achieve the full swing of the lever.

[RBW] Re: Intro post, pics of my RIvs, and a Homer fit question

There's no Appaloosa in question, the mustard bike is a Homer. On Wednesday, February 7, 2024 at 8:15:40 PM UTC-8 iamkeith wrote: > I said "bosco," but meant "chaco." The first ones, on the first run of > appaloosas, were the bullmoose version. > > (The bosco was designed, coincidentally, in

[RBW] Re: Susie / Appaloosa indecision

I think you could make either work for what you want to do and would be a pleasure to own. That said, I would opt for the Susie because of its uniqueness. I can't think of an off-the-shelf frame that offers the combination of design elements that the Susie does using lugs and fillet brazing, an