Re: [RBW] Anyone know what this is?

Although you really should shift into the small cog before trying to rest that chain (as I was reminded this afternoon when I did a quixotic wheel swap to avoid having a blowout on my rear tire on a trip to downtown Oakland to pay my water bill). If the chain isn't lined up with the inside of t

Re: [RBW] Interesting Riv

Speaking of Protovelo, here’s one for sale in NYC. https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/bik/d/new-york-rivendell-bicycle-works-cm/7342042431.html Dave, who has an incoming Riv so needs to ignore ads like this On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cyclofiend Jim wrote: > The "Protovelo" stickers were

Re: [RBW] Comebacks for when people think your bikes cost too much

I'd likely shrug my shoulders and smile. I put myself in the "other" shoes, so to speak. From that position, fully aware of the comedic situation I apparently now find myself playing "both".I "return" to where I never left. So where's the offense, the call for justice, equality and such ?

Re: [RBW] Comebacks for when people think your bikes cost too much

I typically find that the critics are the same people who eat out 3 times a week & a buy a new car every 2 years. $,3500? You know, same as you lost in depreciation when you drove off the dealer lot last week! On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 5:16:25 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote: > I'd likely shrug my shoul

Re: [RBW] Comebacks for when people think your bikes cost too much

"My dog did decided not to go to college". On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 6:39:56 AM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote: > I typically find that the critics are the same people who eat out 3 times > a week & a buy a new car every 2 years. $,3500? You know, same as you lost > in depreciation when y

Re: [RBW] Comebacks for when people think your bikes cost too much

I don't ever discuss how much anything cost with anyone. Solves lots of problems. :) On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 8:12:17 AM UTC-4 Jay LePree wrote: > "My dog did decided not to go to college". > > On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 6:39:56 AM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote: > >> I typically find th

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Parts for a Build

Doug Yes, you are correct regarding the M12. Best of luck in completing your build. Gunner On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 3:21:42 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote: > Gunner, > No worries. I think the M12 is designed for cantilever brakes and I'll be > using v-brakes. I appreciate the post. > Doug > > On

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Parts for a Build

We can close out this thread as I'm set on parts. Thanks to all for the help! Doug On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 9:30:35 AM UTC-4 gpgun...@aol.com wrote: > Doug > > Yes, you are correct regarding the M12. Best of luck in completing your > build. > > Gunner > > On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 3:21:42

[RBW] USPS Crazyness

Crazy things are going on at USPS. This past week I had two packages shipped to me via USPS. One from San Diego, CA and the other from Chico, CA. I live just outside Los Angeles and both packages were due to arrive 3 days after being shipped. The package from San Diego made it to the USPS d

[RBW] Re: Comebacks for when people think your bikes cost too much

On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 8:12:57 PM UTC-7 Kushan wrote: > So that got me thinking, I can't be the only one who has experienced this. > What are some other similar stories? More importantly, what do you say to a > well-meaning loved one when they ask things like "$3500 for a bike?" and > "but

[RBW] Re: Comebacks for when people think your bikes cost too much

The only people who have ever asked the price were fellow bicyclists. They usually preface the question with “Nice bike!” I note that most ride carbon frames, and don’t bat an eye because their bikes typically cost more. And I only think they asked because they recognize that it is a modern lu

Re: [RBW] USPS Crazyness

I live in San Diego and recently had something shipped to me from Carlsbad, a suburb of San Diego. The USPS sent it to Denver first for some reason. So a 25 mile delivery turned into a much longer journey. Robert Tilley San Diego, CA Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 28, 2021, at 7:04 AM, David Per

[RBW] Re: USPS Crazyness

Sounds like fed ex ground, they do the same stupid things. On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 10:04:31 AM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com wrote: > Crazy things are going on at USPS. This past week I had two packages > shipped to me via USPS. One from San Diego, CA and the other from Chico, > CA. I live j

[RBW] Re: The Psychic Derailleur

I bought my Sam there last summer, last one he had, orange although at the time I would have preferred black. I did not want to wait for Rivs next delivery and no guaranty I would get one. Great bike, fast shipping and good deal. On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 11:13:44 AM UTC-4 tsot...@gmail.c

[RBW] Re: Comebacks for when people think your bikes cost too much

Thank you all for the interesting perspectives. Keep'em coming. I agree that how we spend the money is our business and don't need validation from anyone else. However things always get interesting in a family like mine with boundary issues when it comes to cost of things (the first things my

Re: [RBW] USPS Crazyness

Here's an interesting, relevant, and timely story: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/interactive/2021/dejoy-usps-delays-by-zip-code-map/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook On Jun 28, 2021, at 7:04 AM, David Person wrote: > Crazy things are going on at USPS. Thi

Re: [RBW] USPS Crazyness

I sent a postcard to a fellow group member, mailed from Virginia but it arrived in Maryland with a Salt Lake City postmark! For the most part I've had normal delivery times with shipping parts out but one outgoing package is waylaid and long overdue. On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 11:37:28 AM UT

[RBW] Re: a worthy Bombadil is back on the road at long last...

Wow, that thing is gorgeous. Nice build!! I love the unique color. Looks salmon to me. Still undecided whether I'll invest in a paintjob for mine! And yeah I wouldn't have even considered the threadless bullmoose despite being well aware of the existence of said adapter, and it looks as clean

[RBW] Re: Comebacks for when people think your bikes cost too much

With all respect to your wife's taste in jewelry, I just can't get past the fact that people question spending a few thousand dollars on a complex and immensely useful machine like a bike, but don't bat an eye and spending that kind of money on a few grams of stone and metal that has no moving

Re: [RBW] Ride Quality Difference between the Atlantis and Clem H?

Great question and thread. I've been wondering the same thing. While I appreciate Riv's insistence on keeping stuff like frame weights and tube specs in the background, I have wondered what kind of difference I'd feel between the 59cm Clem H that I have now and an Atlantis. We had a great Ri

[RBW] ISO 42cm Struts

Riv is out of stock. Does anybody have and extra set they'd be willing to part with? Thanks! Bones -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owne

Re: [RBW] Re: Comebacks for when people think your bikes cost too much

Most people understand the concept of a "mid-life crisis car". I can buy 10 bikes for the price of the "crisis" car, which I will never buy, so I don't feel too bad. Yes, it is non-essential to buy such a "fancy" bike, but it is used and has big contributions to my health and well being. Toshi

[RBW] Re: ISO 42cm Struts

A little birdy whispered go to "Ben's Cycle" ! On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 2:33:50 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote: > Riv is out of stock. Does anybody have and extra set they'd be willing to > part with? > > Thanks! > Bones > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [RBW] USPS Crazyness

Robert, the San Diego package I mentioned was actually another Shelta hat from Carlsbad. Why it had to take a trip to Macon, GA is beyond me. On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 8:42:01 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote: > I sent a postcard to a fellow group member, mailed from Virginia but it > arrive

Re: [RBW] Re: Comebacks for when people think your bikes cost too much

As someone elsewhere suggested, "Maybe forty-year-old men driving sports cars aren't going through a midlife crisis. Instead, they can finally afford the car they wanted when they were twenty." On Jun 28, 2021, at 11:41 AM, Toshi Takeuchi wrote: > Most people understand the concept of a "mi

Re: [RBW] Re: Comebacks for when people think your bikes cost too much

True, true, and I am able to afford my bicycle now, although I will leave you to guess whether any existential crisis was involved with my purchase :). Toshi On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 12:13 PM Matthew Williams < matthewwilliamsdes...@gmail.com> wrote: > As someone elsewhere suggested, > > "Maybe

Re: [RBW] Re: Comebacks for when people think your bikes cost too much

At first I was like "cool race bike replica" then I realized..that's a race bike! On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 12:55:08 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote: > Since my wife just bought this as a retirement gift for herself she's > starting to resent the assumption that desirable ICE vehicles

Re: [RBW] Re: Comebacks for when people think your bikes cost too much

Wondered who would catch that! Toni Elias' 2016 Championship Superbike, not exactly road legal there er...officer. Or "Jewelry by Yoshimura?" On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 3:30:18 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote: > At first I was like "cool race bike replica" then I realized..that's a > race bike! >

Re: [RBW] Re: Comebacks for when people think your bikes cost too much

I hope she got the giant sunglasses, too 😎 * * Sorry everybody, I know nobody else knows what we're babbling about 😋 On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 1:34:23 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote: > Wondered who would catch that! Toni Elias' 2016 Championship Superbike, > not exactly road legal there

Re: [RBW] Re: Comebacks for when people think your bikes cost too much

Do they have zwift fake indoor "riding" for motorcycles too? or is that trainer looking apparatus just for moving it around? On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 3:30 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > At first I was like "cool race bike replica" then I realized..that's a > race bike! > > > > On Monday, June 28, 2021 a

[RBW] Re: Comebacks for when people think your bikes cost too much

There are so many possible comebacks... As others have pointed out, f you're not a bike person, that world is a different planet for you, as evidenced by transportation planners and politicians who can't see beyond bikes as toys that some adults apparently haven't outgrown. I realize this does

Re: [RBW] Re: Comebacks for when people think your bikes cost too much

There's no integrated stand (Grant would have a field day with this) so this is used to support the bike sans rider. But your idea is actually pretty brilliant, except for the carbon monoxide part I guess? On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 3:41:07 PM UTC-5 Benjamin Kelley wrote: > Do they have zwift

[RBW] Re: Comebacks for when people think your bikes cost too much

I 100% agree with Joel Stern - better to simply not state how much it cost. Cost, like many things, is relative. What is inexpensive for some is extravagant for others. Keep the cost private. Jeff Claremont, CA On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 8:43:51 PM UTC-7 Joel S wrote: > Of the few people I

[RBW] Have you ever considered trading in your Sam for an Appaloosa?

So here's the situation. I've got a super hot lead on an orange 51 Appaloosa, but I'm already deep in it with a sage 51 canti Sam. Initially, when I was looking at these bikes, I was torn between the two. I ultimately leaned Sam because at the time I liked the colour and it was more available.

[RBW] Re: Have you ever considered trading in your Sam for an Appaloosa?

Clearly you need both. The Samuel Hillborne should be set up with drop bars and road tires, and should be your all-road machine. A Joe Appaloosa with much wider tires and Albatross bars would be a great complement to that Hillborne. The one you discard from your stable is the one you would n

[RBW] Re: Comebacks for when people think your bikes cost too much

Speaking of mid-life crisis car, I am going to need one of these for my bike :) On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 2:21:23 PM UTC-7 Jeffrey Arita wrote: > I 100% agree with Joel Stern - better to simply not state

[RBW] Re: Comebacks for when people think your bikes cost too much

This is such an interesting topic from a sociological perspective. The idea that we don’t want to talk about costs with others has always confused me. My wife says it’s because people make judgments about others, but who cares? Ultimately, it’s a conversation about the application of subjecti

[RBW] Re: Comebacks for when people think your bikes cost too much

When I'm asked the "how much it costs?" question by non-bike people, my response is "...oh, are you interested in getting one?..." If the answer is "no", my rude response is "then it doesn't matter". It's curt enough to end the conversation. I recall the old adage about someone who knows the

[RBW] Re: FS: PARTS & ACCESSORIES

SOLD STRONGLIGHT DELTA AND A9 HEADSETS GILLES BERTHOUD FRONT RACK VINTAGE FRENCH DERAILLEUR CABLES On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 3:52:52 PM UTC-4 Gerard Gunhouse wrote: > I have decided to pare down some parts duplicates. Most if not all the > parts listed are either new in the box, like new or

[RBW] Re: FS: PARTS & ACCESSORIES

FYI: I rode Conti Top Touring 2000s in 700x32 for years; they're utterly indestructable, and much lighter and better riding than the Top Contacts with which Continental replaced them. I didn't switch to luxo lightweight tires (Soma New Express, then a pair of much heavier Panaracer prototypes I

[RBW] Re: WTB: 58cm Appaloosa

Bumping this again! I'm still looking for a 58cm Appaloosa, with the double top tubes. Please let me know if you know of one for sale! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

Rambouillet 50cm $1899 Douglaston, NY https://newyork.craigslist.org/que/bid/d/little-neck-rivendell-rambouillet-50cm/7343474050.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails f

[RBW] Re: Have you ever considered trading in your Sam for an Appaloosa?

It's a sellers market right now, which may not be helpful on the Appaloosa end for you but you'll definitely get decent money for your Hillborne. I've only ridden the Appa (it's great) so can't compare, but I say get the model and color you really want. Joe "always keep the custom, anything el

Re: [RBW] Re: Comebacks for when people think your bikes cost too much

I grew up in metro NY, we always asked what something costs, it was an ok thing to do. I moved to CT after grad school, then later to MA. That’s when I learned here it is considered rude to ask what something cost. But a little preface, ‘do you mind if I ask’ goes a long way. Still, I don’t like

[RBW] Re: a worthy Bombadil is back on the road at long last...

Those fenders actually made it into the final build based on a suggestion that you (Jason) gave me many months ago as I was contemplating which direction to go with the frameset. I eventually decided to go "all silver" or as close to it as I could possibly get, and the Flat 65's from Simworks

[RBW] Re: a worthy Bombadil is back on the road at long last...

That's a great looking bike!! I have a Hunqapillar but I still sometimes feel like the Bombadil was actually THE Riv for me. I don't know if the geometry and tire clearance would even work for me but something about it speaks to me, and they are even more rare than Hunqapillars! On Monday,

Re: [RBW] Re: a worthy Bombadil is back on the road at long last...

Willet - oh wow, glad I could be of help! Other than misleading you into thinking the 65's would fit, now you're a cautionary tale for me if I ever need to replace my fenders haha.. Chris - Ha, I feel that way about the 53cm 650B Hunq.. I guess the grass is always greener! On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at

[RBW] WTB: Nitto Fillet FacePlater CR 60-3 or Nitto Quill to Threadless Adaptor

ISO of either one of the two. If you have a CR 60-3 I'd be looking for a 110 mm. Let me know if you have something in the parts bin! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails fr

Re: [RBW] USPS Crazyness

My package was from them as well so maybe it’s the Carlsbad Post Office screwing things up? Robert Tilley San Diego, CA Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 28, 2021, at 12:04 PM, David Person wrote: > > Robert, the San Diego package I mentioned was actually another Shelta hat > from Carlsbad. Why

[RBW] Re: Have you ever considered trading in your Sam for an Appaloosa?

The trick is to only sell a bike after you haven't ridden it for five years. *looks at shed full of bikes*. Works perfectly. Honestly though I have both and the last 3 years the 2 Appaloosa's (one crashed then replaced) have been ridden a lot more than the hillbourne. But that is my preferences

Re: [RBW] Re: a worthy Bombadil is back on the road at long last...

" I guess the grass is always greener!" Ain't that the truth!! On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 8:10:15 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote: > Willet - oh wow, glad I could be of help! Other than misleading you into > thinking the 65's would fit, now you're a cautionary tale for me if I ever > need to rep

Re: [RBW] Re: a worthy Bombadil is back on the road at long last...

51cm gray/kidney bean Hunq for me, which makes *no *sense because my custom has a brighter version of that paintjob and does every single thing a Hunqapillar would do. I want one anyway! 🤣 On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 6:10:15 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote: > Willet - oh wow, glad I could be of h

[RBW] Re: The Psychic Derailleur

Ha! I bought my Sam there in the fall of 2019, last one he had, black although at the time I would have preferred orange. Chris was super helpful in shipping the frame to Canada. On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 11:26:06 AM UTC-4 Joel S wrote: > I bought my Sam there last summer, last one he had, or

[RBW] Re: Mini Moto Max Tire

Nice lookin bike; looks fun to ride. You definitely need some bigger tires though! I once tossed some Mini Motos on my Appaloosa with 50cm Cazaderos. There was about 2mm between the brake wire and the tire. I was not cool with that. Maybe a 48mm slick would be ok, but I'd guess that's about the

[RBW] Re: Have you ever considered trading in your Sam for an Appaloosa?

Have you ridden the long chainstays? If you have, and you like them, there's a point for the Appaloosa. Sure the Appaloosa can probably carry more, but do you need to? The *NEW* Appaloosa is definitely better for upright bars (I had both a 2019 Appaloosa and Hillborne, which were very similar g

[RBW] Re: ISO 42cm Struts

Thanks Garth! On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 2:44:30 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote: > A little birdy whispered go to "Ben's Cycle" ! > > On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 2:33:50 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote: > >> Riv is out of stock. Does anybody have and extra set they'd be willing to >> part with? >> >> Thanks! >> Bo

[RBW] Re: Have you ever considered trading in your Sam for an Appaloosa?

My last post wasn'tactually helpful, sorry. The long chainstays on the Appaloosa are really good and its hard to go back to shorter chainstays now. All those reasons you listed for trying the Appaloosa are why I love mine. I sort of feel like you won't ever feel 100% happy with the Sam. You SHOU

[RBW] Re: Have you ever considered trading in your Sam for an Appaloosa?

"Have you considered purchasing some bikes for your partner? That's what I did. Now if my wife gets on my case I just point out that *SHE* doesn't need four bikes and to stop counting mine!" Ingenious... On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 8:53:58 PM UTC-7 Bones wrote: > Have you ridden the long chain

[RBW] Re: Have you ever considered trading in your Sam for an Appaloosa?

Hi Damien, I like Bill's response the best - get both - but as a former Appa owner and having read discussions on these comparisons on the board, here's my opinion on each of your points: - Sweet long chainstays - Likely not something you can sense - I think chainstays are balanced with