I guess we're all going to have to wait until someone from Rivendell
explains the cautionary note.
On 08/15/2015 12:33 AM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
I would think a single legger would inflict more twisting than a
double legger.
On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 6:30:53 PM UTC-7,
I just reread my note and see that I meant to write 44/30 rings. It's been
quite a while since I installed that BB & I haven't thought about it since.
I don't think it's a White, just the vanilla Japanese BB that Riv sells.
No noise whatsoever. The only advice I can offer is to call White.
Yes, Surly does say not to use one.
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I got a No 33, which fits 31-34mm (Sam's downtube is 32.3mm, iirc). I taped
the inside surface of the clamp with 3M packing tape and it held securely
and didn't mar the paint. Inner tube might work, but it might be too thick
or might slide around.
On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 5:54:52 PM UTC-4
My 68 cm Bombadil didn't like having a two-leg stand attached to the plate.
It was never that stable, the stand kept coming loose and the plate ended
up deformed.
On the other hand my better half has one attached to the plate on her 54 cm
Homer and it's fine (four years, no problems). There is
Another FWIW: A USPS Postal Money Order sent by ordinary USPS snailmail takes a
little longer but provides some degree of protection coverage with mail fraud
laws.
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Sure I'd accept that method of payment.
~Hugh
“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein
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On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Bill wrote:
> Another FWIW: A USPS Postal Money Order sent by ordinary USPS sn
My often loaded Atlantis has a deformed kickstand plate due to the
double-legger but the never loaded with more than a few pounds Betty Foy
plate is still like new after a couple of years of DL kickstand usage.
Seems like sound advice they've added to the site; had I been advised
likewise my At
In what way are the plates deforming? Bent or bulged up or something?
Interested to know more.
Is it a matter of Riv bikes having their plates enhanced to be made more
resiliant to heavier stresses then? Would a thicker reinforcement be their
solution to this?
KJ
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I have an unused plestcher double legger if anyone wants to experiment...
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Frankly, having tried Pletscher and VO 2-leg stands, as well as the usual
Greenfeld bb stand, I've found left rear dropout stands most effective at
holding up a bike under assymetrical rear loads, even with 20 lb in the
pannier on the stand-side and none on the opposite.
That said, I remember some
I use the top plated double legger on my Hillborne and have been carelessly
overloading it for 3+ years. No problems ever but I should have a closer look
(not having examined the chainstays since I installed the kickstand I'm a bit
nervous to, I'll let you know...)
-Kai
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Patrick, I think you may be referring to the Ursus Jumbo. I tried it, it
was OK but it kept coming loose. Anyway, I'm with you on the left rear
dropout stands, as I said—I found it much better particularly when loading
up a stuffed saddlesack large.
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On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Hugh Smitham wrote:
> Sure I'd accept that method of payment.
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> ~Hugh
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> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.”
> ― Albert Einstein
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> http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
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> On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 9:00 AM,
Thanks, Arthur!
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The kind with lots of sudden, deep, and uneven ruts, loose, big gravel
chunks, roots, and rocks that stick up 6 inches from the dirt that
your front tire will slam into when you can't see them coming because the
shade is so dark?
Don't wanna trash my Synergies or bend my fork blades doing this.
Cool! You're gonna have a blast and learn a lot. Remember all your gears,
including your two feet. LCG (lowest common gear) is part of every bike.
Grin.
The simple answer: Yes, but not riding like you describe.
The longer answer: This ain't about speed, despide any videos of insane
downhilling
My brother Peter at over 200 lb has ridden his Merlin and RB-1 road bikes
with 23s on singletrack, perhaps not quite as rocky and rutted as yours,
but certainly technically challenging. He used to enjoy leaving much
younger, fully suspended riders behind uphill, and came close to the the
fastest do
As The Deacon says, riding technique is the key.
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
> My brother Peter at over 200 lb has ridden his Merlin and RB-1 road bikes
> with 23s on singletrack, perhaps not quite as rocky and rutted as yours,
> but certainly technically challenging. H
Can a Sam fit Rock N Roads? If not, the next tire down is WTB Nano 40.
Either one of those should get you wherever you want to go, just
slower than someone on 2" tires. The only place the narrower width is
really unpleasant is in sandy terrain. But that doesn't sound like a
problem.
If you start r
As an FYI it's actually untrue that a postal money order has any extra
protection. I had someone scam me years back. I paid for the item with a
USPS money order under the assumption that anything that happened would be
"mail fraud". They never sent the item so I contacted the USPS and they
tol
What Patrick said!
I'll also add this: I have both a hunqapillar w/ 2.1 smart sams and a sam
hillborne (650B) with soma cazaderos 42mm tires w/ tread. Both are capable
of some technical trail riding as long as you head Patrick's advice.
However, the big difference I've noticed in riding the sam
Got this bike a little under 2 years ago. It was the last of the 52 frames
available before they switched to the 51 size. Jared lucked into finding
it for me. It has very few miles on it. It was built up completely by
Rivendell and was their Albatross build of the time. I have a full list of
I think that the hunqapillar is made for this type of trail. Of course, you
should finesse the trail and not slam into things. Your wheels will perish more
quickly. But, this is true for any bike. I was thinking about this on my ride
today -- I'm so careful with the hunq yet it is probably more
I did it once on my Sam on trails like you described and my take away
conclusion was never again. I wasn't worried about the frame breaking or
the wheels not being able to handle it, because they can. I think the
combination of the low bottom bracket and the Albatross bars made the bike
difficu
"PayPal claiming it's a hazard of doing business"
So much for the supposed security of electronic payment systems. Hugh,
your tale is instructive for us all. When I see all the levels / parties /
etc involved in this transaction, I can see why it's attractive to
scammers. I'm with you on che
Funny postal service money order story: I've had a few of those sent to
me; maybe people who don't have checking accounts? Anyway, my local
mini-post office is in the back of another business, and they can't cash
USPS money orders. No biggie, the "big post office" is a 10 minute bike
ride aw
I think the bike will be fine but you need to think more about your tires.
Stuff the biggest thing in there that will fit, and fiddle with tire
pressure so you don't pinch flat. On my Atlantis, 40 mm is a sweet spot
between on-road efficiency & off-road security. I doubt you'll hurt the
Sam
170lb rider in an unloaded Sam.
45psi? I want as much Cush as possible but without squirm in cornering.
What do you run yours at?
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Mavic MA2 rims mated to Campy Chorus (I believe these are Chorus) and Campy QR
with a SACHS 6 speed 13-26 freewheel. These wheels were not ridden very much, I
had 2 700c bikes and this one was a spare bike used for friends once I got the
other. I would think these wheels have well under 1,000 mi
I used a Pletscher double-legger on my Hunqapillar. This bike is my daily
rider, commuter, go everywhere bike; touring, camping, all of it. It was
mounted directly to the kickstand plate with the shorty bolt I got from
Rivendell. After a friend's partner was left permanently disabled by a
colla
I meant to say, also, that it had never fallen over while on the kickstand.
On Saturday, August 15, 2015 at 8:49:35 PM UTC-7, shawn m. wrote:
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> I used a Pletscher double-legger on my Hunqapillar. This bike is my daily
> rider, commuter, go everywhere bike; touring, camping, all of it. It was
>
Double kicker coming off wife's Glorius in 3... 2...
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 8:53 PM, shawn m. wrote:
> I meant to say, also, that it had never fallen over while on the kickstand.
>
>
> On Saturday, August 15, 2015 at 8:49:35 PM UTC-7, shawn m. wrote:
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>> I used a Pletscher double-legger on my
Here is Surly's position on kickstands for their most robust touring frame:
http://surlybikes.com/info_hole/spew/kickstands_on_long_haul_truckers
Kind of interesting,
Matt
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Here is a Surly LHT with a cracked chainstay right about where a kickstand
plate on a Rivendell would be mounted. Granted this bike does have some
miles and has been on the road a while, but he doesn't use a kickstand and
judging from his experience I'd say your lucky if all that happens is the
I suppose my thinking and now disappointment came from the idea that a
kickstand plate negated crushing or over flexing chainstays. That it solved
that problem. I agree with patrick, that I don't know what the purpose of a
kickstand plate is, if you can't put a dbl leg one one it. Presumably the
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