[RBW] Re: A SimpleOne ramble

2013-10-09 Thread Deacon Patrick
Great colors, Eric! Looks like a fun ride. I can't imagine anything that flat! Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, October 8, 2013 6:44:55 PM UTC-6, EricP wrote: > > Okay, this is not as epic as Tony's ride, but since I've had a bit of > extra time off, decided to head a bit north of the Tw

[RBW] Re: First Century!

2013-10-09 Thread doc
I have found that the thicker the padding, the more moisture gets absorbed, and the worse the effect on long rides. I cut out the liners of all my shorts and now wear them with Andiamo skins. I also use Boudreax's Butt Paste on longer rides with pretty good results as both a lube and for mois

[RBW] Re: A SimpleOne ramble

2013-10-09 Thread Bryan
That looks like a wonderful ride, Eric. Thanks for posting. There's nothing like getting out for a long ride on a single speed bike. I really miss the upper Midwest, especially this time of year! Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] About to start experimenting with centerpulls

2013-10-09 Thread Bill Lindsay
I'm going to start playing around a little bit with centerpull brakes on at least one of my caliper brake equipped bikes. I bought a pair of the snazzy Gran Compe 610s and the tiny optional front rack from Velo Orange. They will be replacing Tektro R539 on my "budget Roadeo". Riv Content:

Re: [RBW] About to start experimenting with centerpulls

2013-10-09 Thread Patrick Moore
I've used center pulls, single pivots, and dual pivots, not to mention cantis and vs, and haven't found centerpulls any better, or much worse, than any of the others. No magic, IME. In fact, I found the old Dura Aces (probably re-inscribed Tourneys) better than the Mafac Racers, but neither as powe

Re: [RBW] About to start experimenting with centerpulls

2013-10-09 Thread Bill Lindsay
While I agree this rack is a TA copy, let me be clear. I bought it from VO, but it's not a VO rack. It is the Dia Compe Gran Compe ENE front rack. When you Patrick were playing around with your front rack in 2011, a few listers here posted their pictures of this Grand Compe ENE rack broken at

Re: [RBW] Re: updated for sale listing 650b wheels etc.

2013-10-09 Thread Patrick Moore
Dylan: Are the hub and rim silver? Little rim wear? 14/15 g butted spokes? Can I see a closeup photo of the rim (showing a 3/4 view including the label) to see if it matches the pair of Open Pros on the Ram? If it does, I may be interested. About the MA40 wheelset: if hub and rims are silver, a

[RBW] Re: St. Louis or KC -- trip ideas?

2013-10-09 Thread Kelly
If you choose St Louis you would be welcome to use our guest room. Plenty of riding as we are centrally located. I can be reached at 314-799-4743 Kelly On Tuesday, October 8, 2013 4:47:35 PM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote: > (crosspost to iBob)My gf and I are going on a trip next weekend (10/16-19).

[RBW] 50mm tires

2013-10-09 Thread Chris Lampe 2
I finally have a bike that will take 50mm tires (1995 Trek 820). I bought this bike as a test vehicle for 26" wheels, which I've never ridden before, but am interested in on a high dollar bike. My first inclination is to go with 50mm Big Apples but Schwalbe makes several other tires in the 50m

[RBW] Off-pavement riding

2013-10-09 Thread ayjaydee
What are your thoughts on this sudden "discovery" of the pleasures of off-pavement riding by the gravel specific bike manufacturers. It seems to me that they feel they have invented a whole new form of bicycle activity. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group

Re: [RBW] Off-pavement riding

2013-10-09 Thread Patrick Moore
My ideas: to quote: "Zzz". Wha?! Oh, sorry, you woke me up. More particuarly: I think it's great that the Market is offering another piece of pie beside the roadie and gnarly and comfort slices, but it's not new at all. On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:33 AM, ayjaydee wrote: > Wh

[RBW] Re: Off-pavement riding

2013-10-09 Thread Deacon Patrick
Wai... Wha? I could ride my bike off pavement? Gah! I wish I'd known sooner. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 11:33:50 AM UTC-6, ayjaydee wrote: > > What are your thoughts on this sudden "discovery" of the pleasures of > off-pavement riding by the gravel specific bike manufact

[RBW] Re: Off-pavement riding

2013-10-09 Thread RJM
I think the addition of "gravel grinder" or "cyclocross" into the big bike stores will be a welcomed addition to any rider's fleet, but the problem I have with really most of the bigger manufacturers is that they always sell through racing. Cyclocross is a race, gravel grinder is being sold as a

Re: [RBW] About to start experimenting with centerpulls

2013-10-09 Thread Jim M.
On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 11:48:45 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I've used center pulls, single pivots, and dual pivots, not to mention > cantis and vs, and haven't found centerpulls any better, or much worse, > than any of the others. > I'll echo Patrick's response. I've used centerp

[RBW] Re: Off-pavement riding

2013-10-09 Thread Bill Lindsay
"I just don't get it or the allure of racing pushing bikes and using racing as a selling point." Seriously. Pushing racing bikes on everybody made as much sense as pushing Formula 1 race cars on everybody, regardless of how they drive, and track racing cleats for everybody, regardless of how

Re: [RBW] About to start experimenting with centerpulls

2013-10-09 Thread RJM
I honestly think linear pulls or cantilever are the best brakes out there... On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 3:23:31 PM UTC-5, Jim M. wrote: > > > On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 11:48:45 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: >> >> I've used center pulls, single pivots, and dual pivots, not to mention

Re: [RBW] About to start experimenting with centerpulls

2013-10-09 Thread Bill Lindsay
Thanks for the replies. I think I'm with all of you: "I've used all kinds and they all work fine. None are dramatically better or worse". At least for everything but centerpulls. I've never done a nice centerpull setup. I understand being forced into using cheapie centerpulls for various

[RBW] Re: Off-pavement riding

2013-10-09 Thread Rambouilleting Utahn
Take a look at the history of recreational skis, 25 years ago every advanced skier skied on a ski that "racing" written on it somewhere. Now nobody takes racing skis off of the race course unless they are carving trenches on the groomers. The technology still trickles down to the "all mountain

[RBW] Re: Off-pavement riding

2013-10-09 Thread Garth
The bike biz is always looking for new angles to sell "gravel race bikes" the latest . Variety is always good ! All that I have seen are disc brake only though. I'd likely have a frame made that can disc or canti or calipers , or at least the latter 2. -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: Off-pavement riding

2013-10-09 Thread Mike Schiller
I think this is just the big companies trying to catch up with the little guys who've been doing this already... Like Riv or Salsa/Surly/Soma. I'm hoping it will bring out more suitable tires and rims. And, of course this was what mountain biking was all about in the 80's. Rigid steel bikes

Re: [RBW] About to start experimenting with centerpulls

2013-10-09 Thread Patrick Moore
Linear pulls are certainly powerful and easy to set up, at least, as long as they are not the cheap ones, which are horrible to set up since the cheap springs mean that they never stay put; I've seen at least on pair, on a WalMart "bike", that literally could not be adjusted properly -- the springs

Re: [RBW] Off-pavement riding

2013-10-09 Thread Anne Paulson
I wish marketers would push the "country bike" esthetic in addition to the cyclocross/gravel grinder esthetic. I end up riding my bike on a lot of the same trails and fire roads that my husband hikes on. And while people run on those trails, there is also a hiking equipment market for people who j

Re: [RBW] About to start experimenting with centerpulls

2013-10-09 Thread jinxed
On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 2:55:29 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote: > What I was curiously looking for was something more specific. For > example, I've seen many A Homer Hilsens using Silver Sidepulls, and I've > seen many A Homer Hilsens using Paul Racer centerpulls. I'd love to hear > someb

Re: [RBW] Off-pavement riding

2013-10-09 Thread Christopher Chen
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Anne Paulson wrote: > > But people often question my bike. Don't they realize I'm out > there to enjoy myself? I think the smiles on many of our faces pre-empt those questions much of the time. Honestly, when I ride my Hilsen, I'm beaming all the god-damn time. I

[RBW] Re: Thin Gripsters with Power Straps

2013-10-09 Thread Marc Irwin
I have the thin gripsters on my Hunq, I don't see how those would be attached. I also don't see any need for them. My foot is so well anchored on the gripster pedals that I can't move them without lifting them off the pedal. I guess," to each his own", as the saying goes. Marc On Tuesday, O

[RBW] My Nitto S-83 doesnt fit Brooks rails

2013-10-09 Thread mikel66...@juno.com
i tried 3 of my ti B17's and the rails dont fit, too narrow. is this typical of the S-83? mike goldman warwick,r.i. Visa® Black Card™ The World Awaits®. Apply Now to Get Exclusive Rewards & 24/7 Concierge! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.

[RBW] Re: owie - bike path hazard

2013-10-09 Thread PeterG
thanks everyone for the kind words..wife saw the Ortho doc today...looks like surgery is not going to have to happen after all..but she won't be getting on a bike again until next spring.going to put the 47's back on the hIlsen tomorrow...Be safe out there -- You received this message because

[RBW] Re: My Nitto S-83 doesnt fit Brooks rails

2013-10-09 Thread RJM
Mine works fine with my b17s, but they are specials and select models, not ti. On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 6:47:44 PM UTC-5, mike goldman wrote: > > i tried 3 of my ti B17's and the rails dont fit, too narrow. is this > typical of the S-83? > > mike goldman > warwick,r.i. >

[RBW] Re: My Nitto S-83 doesnt fit Brooks rails

2013-10-09 Thread Kieran J
My GF has an S-83 sporting a B17s on her bike. Seems to fit fine. KJ On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 8:07:20 PM UTC-4, RJM wrote: > > Mine works fine with my b17s, but they are specials and select models, not > ti. > On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 6:47:44 PM UTC-5, mike goldman wrote: >> >> i t

Re: [RBW] Off-pavement riding

2013-10-09 Thread Eric Platt
I actually see it as a nice trend to help create a market for more wide tires. And, yes, it's connected to racing, but like Mike said, this is more about informal racing that was part of the earlier years of mountain biking. Not sure that it's that different that the bikepacking movement with fra

Re: [RBW] 50mm tires

2013-10-09 Thread Eric Platt
On Big Apple vs. Supreme. On the old version of the Big Apple, there was a Liteskin version. That seems to have been better riding than the Supreme. My wife has a set on her bike and she has voiced a preference over either the Supreme or the regular Big Apple. As to the Big Apple itself, the c

Re: [RBW] Off-pavement riding

2013-10-09 Thread cyclotourist
I love the idea of this segment being promoted. I wish there wasn't an emphasis on racing, but it seems the big bike mfgrs can't sell a bike unless it has that racing aesthetic built into it. The upcoming Raleigh Tamland looks like a great bike. I don't get the sense that they're pushing the racin

Re: [RBW] Off-pavement riding

2013-10-09 Thread Peter Morgano
Seems like someone should make some kind of I don't know "All Rounder" type bike you could ride on pavement, gravel, fire roads. They should make it so you can get the bars high for comfort, it should be able to take bigger tires and be made of lugged steel for looks and ride comfort, oh wait...

[RBW] Re: FS: Dura-Ace 7703 group, Square Taper BBs and some misc bits.

2013-10-09 Thread Anne
UPDATED again and sold items removed. Thanks for all the purchases. All prices *INCLUDE* shipping USPS (w/in US). Contact offlist for add'l photos, to buy, etc. Ultegra triple 6503 front der with 31.8 clamp $30 TIRES 700c Pasela COMPE (TourGuard) 700x32, kevlar, gumwall, excellent condition.

[RBW] Speaking of Off-Pavent Rides... Come to Redlands this Spring!

2013-10-09 Thread cyclotourist
Over the years, the SoCal chapter of the Rivendell Bicycle Appreciation Society has put on a lot of great rides! I've loved EVERY one I've been on, and met a lot of greatpeople. They've actually lead to some pretty good friendships IRL, which is the best part of them. The other thing I love is see

[RBW] Re: My Nitto S-83 doesnt fit Brooks rails

2013-10-09 Thread Corwin
Hi Mike - I have a Berthoud Galibier ti saddle. I was also confused when the rails seemed to be too narrow to fit on my Nitto S83. I contacted Boulder Bicycle who sold me the saddle and was told that I needed to gently persuade the rails into the grooves of the seat post. I think that could b

Re: [RBW] Off-pavement riding

2013-10-09 Thread Patrick Moore
I know what you mean! A Fargo! Patrick "it's actually quite Rivendellianesqueisticish" Moore On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Peter Morgano wrote: > Seems like someone should make some kind of I don't know "All Rounder" > type bike you could ride on pavement, gravel, fire roads. They should make

Re: [RBW] Off-pavement riding

2013-10-09 Thread Peter Morgano
Haha, Touche! On Oct 9, 2013 9:25 PM, "Patrick Moore" wrote: > > I know what you mean! A Fargo! > > Patrick "it's actually quite Rivendellianesqueisticish" Moore > > On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Peter Morgano wrote: > >> Seems like someone should make some kind of I don't know "All Rounder" >>

[RBW] Jenny's bar

2013-10-09 Thread Edwin W
The latest BOM has a bar that Riv doesn't sell, calling it Jenny's bar. What is it? Looks kind of cool. No rise, round, smooth. Not cheatin' my alba, just looking, Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Re: My Nitto S-83 doesnt fit Brooks rails

2013-10-09 Thread Jeremy Till
The problem isn't so much the S-83 as the B17's--they are commonly a little bit narrow and are drawn apart as you tighten the clamp. No biggie. On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 4:47:44 PM UTC-7, mike goldman wrote: > > i tried 3 of my ti B17's and the rails dont fit, too narrow. is this > typica

[RBW] Re: Speaking of Off-Pavent Rides... Come to Redlands this Spring!

2013-10-09 Thread Jeremy Till
This sounds amazing! Just might have to take some time off for this On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 6:14:19 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: > > Over the years, the SoCal chapter of the Rivendell Bicycle > Appreciation Society has put on a lot of great rides! > > I've loved EVERY one I've

[RBW] Re: Jenny's bar

2013-10-09 Thread Jeremy Till
Nitto B617AA Promenade. Nitto makes a few bars called "Promenade," all generally narrow-ish (compared with albas and boscos) sweptback city bars, some with varying amounts of rise. B617AA refers specifically to this no-rise all-sweep version. On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 6:38:52 PM UTC-7,

[RBW] Re: Jenny's bar

2013-10-09 Thread justinaugust
The Bosco could most accurately be described as a wide version of a Promenade bar with a ton of sweep back. I have a pair with rise and sweep (and beautiful bends at the front) that are my preferred city bike bars. In fact, my project for this weekend is putting them on my SimpleOne. -J -- Y

Re: [RBW] Off-pavement riding

2013-10-09 Thread justinaugust
http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/justinaugust/10179474074/ Love the versatility of a Riv frame with the newer tires on the market. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails fr

Re: [RBW] About to start experimenting with centerpulls

2013-10-09 Thread Bill Lindsay
*THAT* was exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for that. I'm about to make a similar maneuver and I'm really interested to see what my results are. Thank you thank you. On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 4:25:24 PM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: > > On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 2:55:29 PM UTC-6, Bill

Re: [RBW] About to start experimenting with centerpulls

2013-10-09 Thread justinaugust
Interestingly I had the exact opposite experience. Paul Racers stop me much better than Silvers. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-o

[RBW] Re: First Century!

2013-10-09 Thread Manuel Acosta
That first 100 miles is always a kicker. Now comes the slippery slope of going further... Lovely ride report and great pictures. On Tuesday, October 8, 2013 10:57:42 AM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote: > > Not on my Atlantis but I'd argue that my 650B Trek is heavily Riv'd in > setup. > > I t

Re: [RBW] Re: Speaking of Off-Pavent Rides... Come to Redlands this Spring!

2013-10-09 Thread cyclotourist
I hope you can! Can't think of a better reason to take a day off and travel some!!! This is the inaugural of what I hope will become an annual event. Might get bigger/more organized and with more amenities added, but this one is as advertised: An opportunity for a bunch of like-minded folks to get

[RBW] for sale 56 Rambouillet, green with nice parts

2013-10-09 Thread bo richardson
i listed my slightly too large for me Rambouillet on the Seattle Craigslist today. It has nice parts including SKF BB and Wipperman stainless chain, you get the idea the drivetrain and most of the parts are brand new top of the line Riv type build there is a photo with the craigslist ad I will

Re: [RBW] About to start experimenting with centerpulls

2013-10-09 Thread Brian Campbell
+1. I replaced a set of Paul Racers for a set of Silver sidepulls. Glad I did. On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 7:25:24 PM UTC-4, jinxed wrote: > > On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 2:55:29 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote: > >> What I was curiously looking for was something more specific. For >> example

[RBW] WTB: Park TS-2 Truing Stand

2013-10-09 Thread Brian Campbell
I need to build some wheels and the Minoura portable stand I have is about shot. Anybody have one that the are willing to part with? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails fr

[RBW] Re: Speaking of Off-Pavent Rides... Come to Redlands this Spring!

2013-10-09 Thread Tom Virgil
Just plain excellent. Marking my calendar. Thank you, David, for proposing this. Hope we see some of the usual suspects. On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 6:14:19 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: > > Over the years, the SoCal chapter of the Rivendell Bicycle > Appreciation Society has put on

[RBW] Re: First Century!

2013-10-09 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Howard - great to hear you were out on the W&OD as well, I would have loved seeing you out on the RAM in particular! Thanks very much Erl and Eric. Doc - thanks for the advice, I'm going to have to look into Andiamo skins. I'm still not wild about having to use 'butt paste', but I guess I'll h

Re: [RBW] About to start experimenting with centerpulls

2013-10-09 Thread Mike Schiller
those are the bolted on version, the brazed on Paul Racers are the best rim brake I've ever used for both modulation and stopping power. There is some tire size max,about 42 mm, to get the tire to fit past the pads. They are a bit clunky in the looks dept., especially the anodized version. I'v

Re: [RBW] Re: Speaking of Off-Pavent Rides... Come to Redlands this Spring!

2013-10-09 Thread cyclotourist
I hope to see you there! You won't even need your mobile ice-chest if things go according to plan! On 10/9/13, Tom Virgil wrote: > Just plain excellent. Marking my calendar. Thank you, David, for > proposing this. Hope we see some of the usual suspects. > > On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 6:14:

Re: [RBW] Re: Speaking of Off-Pavent Rides... Come to Redlands this Spring!

2013-10-09 Thread Tom Virgil
On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 8:02:41 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: > > I hope to see you there! > > You won't even need your mobile ice-chest if things go according to plan! > The beer and ice run allowed me to ride San Mateo unfettered (except on the way back with the beer and ice).

[RBW] Stolen Romulus In Sacramento?

2013-10-09 Thread Rick Houston
Funny thing happened today: got a call from a good friend who was visited a LBS here in Sac when a tweaker came by and said he had a bike for sale; turned out to be a Riv Romulus, my friend offered him $50 for it, the gentleman said the pedals were worth more than that, my friend countered with

[RBW] WTB Moustache Bars

2013-10-09 Thread Chris Halasz
Curious to try a pair; may just go with albastaches. ... have a set of drop bars to trade, if there's interest. Thanks, Chris Tucson, AZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [RBW] About to start experimenting with centerpulls

2013-10-09 Thread Michael
Have used both Racers and Tektro R559 brakes. Paul's: were hard to get centered for me. So many points of adjustment possible on them. Hard to get cables attached. I was new to center pulls though. Got easier each time I messed with them. They were great with salmon pads. R559's: install and

Re: [RBW] Stolen Romulus In Sacramento?

2013-10-09 Thread cyclotourist
You buddy is awesome!!! So SAC is the new stolen Rivendell capital! On 10/9/13, Rick Houston wrote: > Funny thing happened today: got a call from a good friend who was visited a > > LBS here in Sac when a tweaker came by and said he had a bike for sale; > turned out to be a Riv Romulus, my frien

[RBW] Re: About to start experimenting with centerpulls

2013-10-09 Thread Michael
> > Have used both Racers and Tektro R559 brakes. > > Paul's: > were hard to get centered for me. So many points of adjustment possible > on them. Hard to get cables attached. I was new to center pulls though. Got > easier each time I messed with them. They were great with salmon pads. > > R559

[RBW] Re: First Century!

2013-10-09 Thread doc
Both bikes currently have sprung saddles: the tourer has a B67 Pre-aged and the Rando has a Champion Flyer. Interestingly, when I used the SA, it is paired with an inexpensive shock absorber post where I can pre-set the firmness and travel. It makes for a nice ride. Below is a link to Chamois