Re: [RBW] Re: How upright can you get with Alba's/stem combo?

It takes more than just a fork to transform a Riv into a randonneur, indeed. Most importantly, it takes some kooky person to sit in the saddle and turn the cranks and follow the cue sheet faithfully for between 7 and 90 hours. Anybody who's obsessing over fork rake or any other hardware triviali

[RBW] How upright can you get with Alba's/stem combo?

Not a riv but close enough? I just converted a garage sale find trek 520 to a-bars (all my bikes have a-bars!). It's pretty damned upright. https://www.dropbox.com/s/x47bt8g8hntks2l/Photo%20May%2009%2C%2011%2023%2017%20AM.jpg Bolt upright? Well, yeah. I tried it with the original stem and the a-

Re: [RBW] Re: How upright can you get with Alba's/stem combo?

On Fri, 2013-05-10 at 22:31 -0500, Alex Zeibot wrote: > Low trail fork will not transform Rivendell into a complete randonneur > bicycle. It takes more than just a fork. Plenty of Rivendells have been transformed into randonneur bicycles without any changes to the fork at all. -- You recei

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

My experience doesn't reflect this. I recently picked up a low trail Rawland Nordavinvden, and it handles very well with no load and high, wide bars (above saddle by maybe 1.5") I actually haven't even ridden it with any front load yet. Though I also like my higher trail, stiffer tubed Crosscheck

[RBW] Re: Some details on the midwest Riv and Country Bike Rally

If I get the gist of the itinerary, we are going to camp and stay at Forestville, ride out each day, end up making a loop and return to the campground. So riding loaded with camping gear from place to place is not on the agenda if we are camping there, correct. Marc On Friday, May 10, 2013 12

[RBW] Re: Some details on the midwest Riv and Country Bike Rally

That's right Marc. For those of us camping at Forestville, we can leave our gear there during the day. I'm basing the "official" start each day in Spring Valley and Preston, respectively, because those towns have services like lodging, groceries, etc. This gives us some "bonus miles" commuting t

[RBW] Re: Some details on the midwest Riv and Country Bike Rally

Also, starting in the towns allows one-day ralliers to drive in, park somewhere, and meet us conveniently. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to r

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

Comments on two prior posts. Yes Rene, I've enjoyed it also. I drooled over Rivendells when I first saw a Romulus ad. The first production bike that would fit me "off the rack" though was a smaller Rambouillet, so I got one at the end of 2006. 10,000 miles later, I still love it. Later, I started

[RBW] Some thought on my Riv's - Long

All this discussion about trail and this and that and I realized I didn't care. At 6'5" tall and 225 what many want to claim as heavy tubing isn't heavy to me. In my race bike days I liked areo wheels that were very stiff and felt like you were on a rail and instantly put power to the road.

Re: [RBW] Soma San Marcos review @ Bicycle Times

I also found the review frustratingly vague. As you said, he talks about geometry, but doesn’t specify what he means. To be fair, most bike reviews are like this one: a gloss over without offering any specifics. He also says, “The San Marcos gets you where you want to go in comfort and style

[RBW] Re: old pasela 37's on the Simpleone and picking up new wheels for the Protovelo

Hey there The Bleriot looks great. I miss that bike..but it was too small. I'm so glad you like it. Looks like it's treating you well. I love awkward bike portage also (as long as it's safe) Best Jason On Monday, May 6, 2013 11:22:29 PM UTC-4, jeffrey kane wrote: > > Beautiful, man ... I alwa

Re: [RBW] Soma San Marcos review @ Bicycle Times

On Sat, 2013-05-11 at 07:45 -0700, Doug Williams wrote: > I also found the review frustratingly vague. As you said, he talks > about geometry, but doesn’t specify what he means. To be fair, most > bike reviews are like this one: a gloss over without offering any > specifics. > > He also says, “The

[RBW] protovelo done

The new protovelo build is mostly finished. As I mentioned before, I've never had a proper roadie type bike and I had been collecting parts to build one when this frame came up on the Riv site as a web special. I have no idea what it was a prototype for. I've never ridden with integrated shift

Re: [RBW] Some thought on my Riv's - Long

Kelly -- very interesting writeup (of course I was particularly interested in that for the Ram). I've not ridden any of Grants later models, but you descriptions of their handling and feel match my own experience with the five Rivs I've owned (with some reservations about the Sam Hill). Great bike

[RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks

Hi, All! I'm Leah, and I'm happy to have discovered you! In November I managed to get my paws on my very own Rivendell Betty Foy. She's the completely perfect answer to my cycling needs. I slapped a gorgeous Brooks B68 in honey on her and it's been great. But yesterday I made the mistake of

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes

Me too! Thanks for the clarification, Steve! On Friday, May 10, 2013 5:28:09 PM UTC-5, Evan wrote: > > Thanks, everyone, for your answers regarding trail. (Pneumatic trail vs. > geometric trail? Whoa. It's even more complicated than I thought!) > >> >> -- You received this message because you a

[RBW] Any advice for a Riv-friendly (roof) bicycle rack?

All, I have an outstanding hitch bike rack (Thule Euroway G2 923), but this option is now gone with our new car. I am looking to buy a roof bike rack that would accommodate nicely a fendered fat-tired bicycle with front rack (Mark's or Mini type), any advice? I've owned in the past a Yakima h

[RBW] Re: Soma San Marcos review @ Bicycle Times

On Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:33:15 PM UTC-4, Doug Williams wrote: > > I'm leaning strongly toward a San Marcos, but I can't seem to let go of > the idea of having a faster Roadeo. I like to do long solo rides. I ride > with others on occasion, but I don’t worry about racing or drafting > anybod

Re: [RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks

Only On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 2:43 PM, LeahFoy wrote: Welcome! The initiation for new listmembers requires posting exquisite photos of their Rivendells. Please do so. > what is your opinion about swapping for the red? Will it look too matchy? > Would you tire of seeing a cherry red Brooks? Shou

Re: [RBW] Re: BQ and RIV bike diffs

How about a French style geometry bicycle with a Hobo planaria? Low racks with low trail fork, Newbaum handle wrapped with twin at the end, and shellac in placed. Plastic fenders, dyno wheel for lights in the front and back. Basket up front to hold your things. You could probably play the harmon

[RBW] Re: BQ and RIV bike diffs

I'm pretty sure that Grant's and Jan's writings in this thread should be monogrammed and framed, just so it can be easily referenced when future postings try to drive a spike between their ideas. I'm pretty firmly in the camp of The Ride Is What Matters, and if you are comfortable and feel like

Re: [RBW] Soma San Marcos review @ Bicycle Times

The stiffness of the frame also makes a bike feel fast/reactive versus slow/inert, to me, anyway. In my brief ride on a Roadeo, it felt responsive and springy like a skinny tire road bike. But then again, it's pretty obvious that a lot of perceptions of "fastness" have a lot more to with looks a

Re: [RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks

I vote red! Saddle matching is the new bag matching. I have a blue B17 on one bike, and like the matchy aspect. Brian Seattle, WA On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 8:05 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Only > > On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 2:43 PM, LeahFoy wrote: > > Welcome! The initiation for new listmembers

Re: [RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks

Red saddles look great on many bikes. Go for it! When I built up a repainted bike a while back, a friend donated some Brooks green bar tape. Naturally, I had to get a green B17 to match On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 3:43 PM, LeahFoy wrote: > Hi, All! > > I'm Leah, and I'm happy to have discove

[RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks

The Betty Foy owner in the household votes to leave the honey saddle. I vote red as I have done the color matching thing with a blue brooks saddle that perfectly matches the brake cables and headset spacers on my SimpleOne. David Charlotte, NC On Friday, May 10, 2013 4:43:09 PM UTC-4, LeahFoy w

[RBW] Re: protovelo done

Sloping top tube. Slots on the brakes look like med reach. Could be San Marcos ish. On Saturday, May 11, 2013 7:59:36 AM UTC-7, jandrews_nyc wrote: > > The new protovelo build is mostly finished. As I mentioned before, I've > never had a proper roadie type bike and I had been collecting parts t

Re: [RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks

Go red! Objective advice from someone who matches green Brooks saddle and bar tape to his green bags on his pewter Hunqapillar! René  — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 10:56 AM, David Spranger wrote: > The Betty Foy owner in the household votes to leave the honey saddle.

[RBW] Re: protovelo done

Looks like a Bleirot fork with a Hillborne frame. Brake reach is solidly in the 57-59mm reach range. It looks like a fun sporty ride! Have fun! Stephen On Saturday, May 11, 2013 9:16:16 AM UTC-7, ted wrote: > > Sloping top tube. Slots on the brakes look like med reach. Could be San > Marcos ish

Re: [RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks

Welcome, Leah! Ooooh, go red! And I'm not a matchy person (as my socks will attest!) but I think a red brooks on a Betty would look great. . . plus your dad needs a different saddle, right? :-) Cheers! lyle On 11 May 2013 12:33, René Sterental wrote: > Go red! Objective advice from someone w

Re: [RBW] Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos

The Soma badge is merely a cloaking device. Those with the means and ability can see through it and know it is a Riv design. Those who lack the means or ability to see that don't know the difference between a Riv and a Soma design anyway. You will be able to tell in which category to place someo

Re: [RBW] Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos

👍 +1 😄 On May 11, 2013, at 10:23 AM, John Blish wrote: > The Soma badge is merely a cloaking device. > > Those with the means and ability can see through it and know it is a Riv > design. > > Those who lack the means or ability to see that don't know the difference > between a Riv and

Re: [RBW] Any advice for a Riv-friendly (roof) bicycle rack?

Hi Pierre, The only roof racks that work well with fendered bikes are those that grab the frame via the downtube. Of the few available, the one I like the most is the Thule Criterium: http://www.thule.com/en-us/us/products/bike-carriers/roofcarriers/598-criterium-_-598 The other one is the Yakima

[RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks

Welcome! And red saddle for sure. I still enjoy seeing the green saddle on my green Quickbeam after 9 years. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving email

Re: [RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks

Go red and while you're at it get some cool red foot ware along with red bottle cages and blue bottles...why stop with the saddle? Then of course lots of pictures. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this gr

[RBW] 1987 Bridgestone MB-1, 50cm, for sale

Greetings Riv folk. Now that I am the proud owner of a new RBW Legolas, I'm letting go of my Bridgestone MB-1. It's one of the coolest MB-1s ever, in my opinion, being one of the few production mountain bikes made for, and spec'ed with, Dirt Drop handlebars. The size is 50cm, good for someone 5'8"

[RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks

Welcome! Are you aware of how differently the B17 rides than the B68? The B17 can be too narrow for a more upright position, which I presume you have on the Betty? An upright position has us sitting on the wider part of our sit bones, so saddle width makes a big difference. Aside from that, I h

[RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks

I went through the same debate with a Brooks B17 Electric Blue saddle for my Atlantis - it matched the lettering outline perfectly. I added some chainstay wrap in blue to touch it off and am very happy with the results. If you like it, go for it! There is no wrong answer in personlizing.

[RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks

Rock the red! The fact that you asked makes the answer self evident. -Jimmy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@go

Re: [RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks

Not to mention that the B-17 comes in a lady's model as well On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > Welcome! > > Are you aware of how differently the B17 rides than the B68? The B17 can > be too narrow for a more upright position, which I presume you have on the > Betty? An up

[RBW] Large SaddleSack Load and Anchor Questions

Once the Large SaddleSacks are back in stock I plan on getting one as my everyday bag on the bike. It will rest on a Nitto Large Rear Rack. I plan on strapping it down with 1-2 short Irish Straps. For camping, I will put the Sackville Panniers under it and am hoping the lashing points match up a

[RBW] Re: Large SaddleSack Load and Anchor Questions

Patrick, I carry all sorts of loads from a medium backpack full of clothes and a laptop computer, to six-packs of 12-oz bottled beverages, to box of Dunkin Coffee, to camping gear. (not all at one time:) ) I could easily exceed weight limit of wheel and rack before capacity of the bag. I love

[RBW] Re: Any advice for a Riv-friendly (roof) bicycle rack?

Why are you so committed to a roof rack? I use a Saris hitch rack and like it much better than any roof rack I have owned - which is a lot. Michael On Saturday, May 11, 2013 1:19:28 AM UTC-4, Pierre wrote: > > All, > > I have an outstanding hitch bike rack (Thule Euroway G2 923), but this > op

[RBW] Re: Large SaddleSack Load and Anchor Questions

Here is a photo of the beverages: Best regards, Erl On Saturday, May 11, 2013 7:25:39 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Once the Large SaddleSacks are back in stock I plan on getting one a

Re: [RBW] Re: BQ and RIV bike diffs

I don't know if Rob would agree, but that sounds like an Ocean Air Rambler to me! http://oceanaircycles.com/bicycles/rambler/ Cheers, David On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Lee Legrand wrote: > How about a French style geometry bicycle with a Hobo planaria? Low racks > with low trail for

Re: [RBW] Re: BQ and RIV bike diffs

and don't forget the bandana's on Rob's site. ~mike > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To po

Re: [RBW] Re: How upright can you get with Alba's/stem combo?

Wow! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@go

[RBW] Re: Any advice for a Riv-friendly (roof) bicycle rack?

Sounds like, the new car doesn't have a hitch... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to th

[RBW] Any advice for a Riv-friendly (roof) bicycle rack?

Check this one out.. Just what your looking for http://www.atoc.com/biketopper.php Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+u

[RBW] Re: How upright can you get with Alba's/stem combo?

> > Alba's look cool with the black grips. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this gr

[RBW] Just how dark do Brooks honey saddles get?

I like the honey, but torn between honey and dark brown. The Brown looks kinds reddish in pics i have seen. The honey looks great, but would love it to darken up a bit. Anyone got any pics of one or 'tother to share? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "

[RBW] WTT: My B17 for your Imperial.

Looking to try an Imperial - black or browns, honey, etc. I have a black B17 that has probably less than 200 miles on it. In very good shape. I can send pics if interested. Let me know. john11.2...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] Any advice for a Riv-friendly (roof) bicycle rack?

If indeed the problem is no hitch in the new car, then I would suggest considering getting a hitch installed or doing it yourself. I put a hitch on my minivan and it was really pretty easy. I got the hitch from Amazon and found an install video on YouTube. Cost was about $150. I'm not sure what a

Re: [RBW] Any advice for a Riv-friendly (roof) bicycle rack?

What Aaron said. These people are HIGHLY recommended. All their installations are viewable on youtube and it's really straightforward. That's presuming your vehicle isn't an outlier that doesn't have the capacity, or a work vehicle or similar. Re roof racks: If you have the choice between clamp on

Re: [RBW] Any advice for a Riv-friendly (roof) bicycle rack?

These people, of course being http://www.etrailer.com/ Cheers, David On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 9:18 PM, cyclotourist wrote: > What Aaron said. These people are HIGHLY recommended. All their > installations are viewable on youtube and it's really straightforward. > That's presuming your vehicle i

[RBW] Re: Just how dark do Brooks honey saddles get?

Here's some pictures of my 6yr old Honey B17. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/8142953377/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/8577884068/in/set-72157633053478798 I really like the way this saddle looks. Still, if I were going to buy a new Brooks, I'd probably get a

[RBW] Re: Large SaddleSack Load and Anchor Questions

Patrick, once you get your large SS be sure to post pictures and impressions. I'm curious as to how the bikes perform with those bags out in the wild. On the one hand it puts a lot of weight up high but perhaps this isn't an issue. The bags are beautiful for sure and easy to access. I totally r

Re: [RBW] Re: Large SaddleSack Load and Anchor Questions

My Large Saddlesack is permanently on my bike. I was using zipties to attach bag to rack, but some people say that the zipties damage the bag, so currently it's only attached to the saddle, and it rests on the rack. I need to figure out some new attachment solution. I don't understand why one woul

Re: [RBW] WTT: My B17 for your Imperial.

Michael - just make your own out of the B17: http://wp.me/p1kJzU-5S Brian Hanson Seattle, WA On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Michael wrote: > Looking to try an Imperial - black or browns, honey, etc. > I have a black B17 that has probably less than 200 miles on it. > In very good shape. > I

Re: [RBW] Re: Large SaddleSack Load and Anchor Questions

I'll second the zip-tie advice. I have the medium and just use 2 zip-ties to steady it on the rear of the bag at the rack. Brian Seattle, WA On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 10:52 PM, Anne Paulson wrote: > My Large Saddlesack is permanently on my bike. I was using zipties to > attach bag to rack, but s

[RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks

You do raise an excellent point. I'm not sure how the B17 will ride, and I'm definitely not willing to swap for a less comfortable saddle. But I've seen lots of BF bikes with A-bars and B17s so they must work for some people. The biggest BF fan in the blogosphere (Dottie from Let's Go Ride A Bik

Re: [RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks

I'm happy to post photos if someone can explain how I would do this! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegrou

[RBW] PHL Riv friendly LBS

Any suggestions for a Riv friendly LBS in or around PHL? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To p

[RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

The Rambouillet will actually take 700x38 tires, without fenders of course--I know because I put a pair of wheels from a Cannondale hybird with very fat (IRC) 38's on my wife's Ram for the C&O canal ride. It looked very funky, just barely cleared--but did--and rode wonderfully on the wet mush.

Re: [RBW] Any advice for a Riv-friendly (roof) bicycle rack?

There are other options too Rocks for Tandems attach the front fork elevated above the rail, giving clearance for fenders. There are also the old style two piece systems that have a tray for the rebar wheel attaching to the rear cross bar, and a separate mounting point on the front cross bar for

Re: [RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks

DIY saddle and bar wrap color matching made easy. Why be limited to the colors offered by the saddle makers? http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/34156114@N05/8395437401/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this grou

Re: [RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks

Cool, my posts and pics made it through moderation! Now those of you who wanted to see Betty and her honey saddle can give me your most honest and informed opinion on a red B17. Also, tell me if you see the bars being too high for that saddle... Thanks! -- You received this message because you