Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

The sanity of all mail in voting... I heard King Count was expected to get 86% turnout. The whole vote by mail thing was championed and put together by my favorite Wasington republican Sam Reed. My ballot was so sad and one-party without him in there. I spent election day building up my new t

Re: [RBW] Tokyo Cycle Show ( Picture Set )

Doug The cassette is an Ultegra 12x27. The rear derailleur, to anticipate a question, is the long cage Dura Ace 7700GS. The original tyres were Mitsuboshi Trimlines. It is currently wearing Michelin World Tour 650 x 35A. Could only find an ancient review of these online, where I believe they we

Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

We did not ride to the polls after work today. A combination of a later time off work, light drizzle in the low 40's and more traffic made me decide to just keep driving the carpool to the polling station after work. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 2:21 AM, Ryan Ray wrote: > The

[RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

Grant, I echo your sentiments. I'm a "displaced" Californian, but I'm fortunate to live in Maryland where I was able to vote for marriage equality, among other good things. The results were pretty much the same as my ballot all around, so I'm happy here too. Thanks for sharing, don't worry

[RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

Re: Grant's story. Interesting that a person who apparently enjoys Riv's approach to bicycles would be so hung up on Grant's fairly mainstream political stance. Is he boycotting half the country? More than likely the mutual interest in bikes made the dude feel chummy with GP, and that initial ch

[RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

there are successful businesses who post their beliefs http://www.sierratradingpost.com/lp2/we-believe/ though their success is based more on their customer service, which they attribute to their beliefs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bu

Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

I see nothing wrong with what they have to say, even as an Athiest, although I can see how a devout member of another religion might be put off. It comes down to the fact we live in a great nation, where you can say or believe whatever you want, even if you own a big business, and people can vote i

[RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 8:26:44 PM UTC-8, grant wrote: > Do you find out the political affiliation of every business owner before > you patronize the biz? > > No, and I don't care about how they vote. But I do care about how they spend their profits they might make from me. Some large natio

Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

I would have agreed with you. Right up until Citizens United. When corporations can give unlimited money and behave like people, but not people - then corps espousing their political beliefs gets my hackles up. When I see a company telling me that they don't like my life and that they are actively

Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

Read this after alas. GF and I rode to polling place in MD. Cold but sunny. Parking lot was packed (80% turnout in MD) so bike parking right next to the school received many comments. Some were even positive... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

80% turnout! That's awesome. I dropped my ballot off on my way to work. And, since I bike to work every day, that means my vote was delivered via Quickbeam. On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 10:02 AM, johnb wrote: > Read this after alas. > > GF and I rode to polling place in MD. Cold but sunny. Parking lot

[RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

I'm surprised to see some of the opinions - or really, the projections - of the other side. I can assure you that you wear as much of the polarizing disparity as you paint on the other side. You believe they're trying to put you in jail, they believe you're trying to tax them to death and make

Re: [RBW] Tokyo Cycle Show ( Picture Set )

Thanks, Paul. I used a 46/26 TA Pro 5 Vis for a while off road, then switched to 44/30 (home brew 14 or so -34 9 speed) for faster shifting and a slightly lower range on the big ring, but the SunTour shifter shifted the larger gap fine, if a bit slower. I ran the rings on the inner two postions, la

Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

Oy, a political conversation breaking out on a bicycle discussion page, nothing good can come of this. Thankfully the fine people at Rivendell don't waste their time worrying about the stock market, or so I assume. Lets at least not tell people what they believe or quote things in such hyperbolic t

Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

On Wed, 2012-11-07 at 13:47 -0500, Peter Morgano wrote: > Oy, a political conversation breaking out on a bicycle discussion > page, nothing good can come of this. It's not impossible. The discussion following Jan's article on the German voting system was interesting, informative and courteous:

Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

That is a good conversation, lets hope things stay that cordial here. I am a politics junkie so I love any spirited debate, as long as people keep it clean. On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Wed, 2012-11-07 at 13:47 -0500, Peter Morgano wrote: > > Oy, a political conve

Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

I say that we discuss politics only if we include trail, planing, and helmets. Patrick Moore, pissed because his party didn't win. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinoceros_Party * * (Of course, it no longer exists, and it was never American to begin with, but **still**.) -- You received this mes

[RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

the reason the two parties worked together when Grant and I were kids was because there were four parties. North/south democrats, and east/west republicans. Coalitions would form over issues of common interest between the four regions and two parties. Ending in the 70s, people changed partie

Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

Be that as it may, the thing I hate the most about the media is the false equivalency that is measured against all politics. In some cases one guy or party or belief is just wrong, and we live in such a PC society that no one in the media can just come out and say it. When you watch old news casts

[RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

Peter, there's another way we vote. With digital cable, they know what we're watching on tv 100% of the time. Turn off the 24-hr/day news and turn off the news entertainment industry. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

That is true but sadly most people just watch the network that they watch and that is thier source of information. I do love the rise of independent media on the web, gives way different perspectives than you would ever get on the mainstream media. I am obviously a liberal but try to not just limit

[RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

Peter, Grant, here is the polarization of our country from 1960 to 2000 EC map - 1960 presidential election EC map 2000 election -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

For one thing, Republicans changed from Blue to Red between 1960 and 2000, while Democrats changed from Red to Blue. Was there ever a time when they were the same color? That would have been really confusing. Bill "just trying to insert a little jocularity" Lindsay aka Bubba On Wednesday, N

Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

First off that map is misleading since it has the democrat highlighted in red. Second, yes the Democrats lost the south forever after the civil rights acts in the 60s, I would think to the millions of people that have had thier lives improved for the better because of the Civil Rights act would not

Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

I love talking politics, but to bring the discussion more on-topic: Which party is friendlier to the lugged steel lobby? Discuss! On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 3:25:21 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote: > > First off that map is misleading since it has the democrat highlighted in > red. Second, yes the D

[RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

Duh, forgot the link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/34864597@N00/8162100660/in/set-72157631945660743 On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 3:34:44 PM UTC-5, John L wrote: > > I rode my Hillborne over. Also, no pictures, but took this a week ago at > my new place (was living around the corner from work, so

RE: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

I rode my Stumpjumper to the voting "church" ,sorry no pictures. Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 16:33:38 -0800 From: 54ca...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today? The 4-year-old and I rode the Big Dummy to the library to turn in

Re: [RBW] Cygolite mounting questions

John, If you want to mount with mid-fork braze-ons I think you already received some good suggestions. If, like me, you don't have a braze-on where you want the light, I have tried a couple of clamp-on types. If you can find them the old style, round, tandem "Stoker Stubs" work good. The o

[RBW] WTB: high rise stem (dirt drop/periscopa) & moustache bars

Hi all, Looking for a moustache bar & a dirt drop/periscopa type stem to go along. Please contact me off the list if you have one or both. Stem has to have 26mm clamp diameter to match the handlebar, short reach (8cm?) preferred. Thanks! ilter in Chicago -- You received this message because

[RBW] Re: Tokyo Cycle Show ( Picture Set )

Great photos, thank you for sharing! ilter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/LPuCllLHFVUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-

[RBW] Re: Proto (Paleo?) Riv?

http://cycledefrance.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/sauvage_lejeune1.jpg?w=590&h=786 http://www.flickr.com/photos/78383408@N08/8128503767/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/39151498@N07/5716456642/ French camping bikes, I've seen the term 'campeur' used too, had that sort of frame style. I imagine that

Re: [RBW] Fs 52cm Hillborne plus partial build

Please send me some photographs when you get a chance. Thank you. David On Nov 6, 2012, at 7:58 PM, Trevor saxton wrote: > Commuting by bike is no longer an option for me and I need to free up some > cash for other things, keeping the Simpleone for sure > > I was in the process of building u

Re: [RBW] WTB: high rise stem (dirt drop/periscopa) & moustache bars

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nitto-Dirt-Drop-Stem-100mm-26-0mm-Pearl-Technomic-Velo-Orange-/200844553635?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2ec344ada3 Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... h

Re: [RBW] Re: Wood

Steve: The Delaware Water Gap actually is a great choice for a 2-day ride, light-touring credit card style. I did it one weekend 2 years ago, where we started at the Water Gap (on the PA side), rode across the Rte 80 bridge to NJ, then up the historic Old Mine Road to Milford PA along the Dela

Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

> On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 3:25:21 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote: > First off that map is misleading since it has the democrat > highlighted in red. Second, yes the Democrats lost the south > forever after the civil rights acts in the 60s, Virginia went Democratic in both

Re: [RBW] Re: Wood

Back in the 70s they were saying they were going to let Old Mine Road "go back to nature". I remember it as being exceptionally nice. I think I recall us crossing the river into PA and going up to some falls -- Silverthread, perhaps? -- on the ride. Details, of course, are long gone, as it was 4

Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

Peter, s. Democrats became Republicans in the 80s, not the 60s, so your data is wrong -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/eQR8tDGCf88J.

[RBW] WTB: high rise stem (dirt drop/periscopa) & moustache bars

Howdy I have a pair of nitro moustache bars but they are 25.4. Not sure if you are interested or not. They have been mounted but have less than 50 miles on them. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this disc

Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

Again, an issue with politics nowadays is the arguing of facts. I believe Richard Nixon and the Southern Strategy was not in the 80s, but then again I do have a degree in Political Science from University of South Carolina so maybe they led me astray. But dont trust me, trust our find friends at Wi

Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

Our current Texas gov. Was the last holdout - he campaigned for Al Gore. S. Carolina in no way represents the entire south, nor does Wikipedia. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https:

Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

Nor canyon in any way represent me, however loudly you claim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/0ShPytjaA8oJ. To post to this group, se

Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

Oy, I am not typing loudly haha. I always speak softly and rationally, at home and at work and anyone is entitled to thier own opinion but not thier own facts. Like I said before I always enjoy a debate with the other side and some of my friends and family are republicans but I think this conversa

Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

Oy, Peter, this is the 2nd time you've become insulting and puffed up. The colors of the map don't matter, the distribution does. But you did prove my point about scare tactics, and from another generation -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] Re: Wood

Me, too -- and probably at least a couple of the Allingham offspring as well. On Nov 7, 2012, at 5:58 PM, "Steve Palincsar" wrote: > Back in the 70s they were saying they were going to let Old Mine Road > "go back to nature". I remember it as being exceptionally nice. I > think I recall us c

Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

Heyyy, you cant co-opt my Oy, unless your wife is Jewish too, haha. While many find me insulting few find me scary or tactical. Have a good night. On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Ron Mc wrote: > Oy, Peter, this is the 2nd time you've become insulting and puffed up. The > colors of the map don't

[RBW] Re: WTB: high rise stem (dirt drop/periscopa) & moustache bars

And I have the 25.4 Periscopa to match, which is too short for the bars I'm using. joerem...@gmail.com Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 3:03:55 PM UTC-8, Christopher Murray wrote: > Howdy > I have a pair of nitro moustache bars but they are 25.4. Not sure if you > are i

[RBW] Re: WTB: high rise stem (dirt drop/periscopa) & moustache bars

Howdy I have a pair of nitro moustache bars but they are 25.4. Not sure if you are interested or not. They have been mounted but have less than 50 miles on them. Cheers! cm On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 8:59:46 PM UTC-6, ilter wrote: > > > Hi all, > > Looking for a moustache bar & a dirt drop/pe

Re: [RBW] Tokyo Cycle Show ( Picture Set )

Patrick Not my bike pictured but it's an Alps I found on the web with the same design. The mudguard is a standard Honjo type, cut in half just aft of the brake bridge. A rectangular metal tab is affixed to the front half of the mudguard, using the same nut that holds it onto the bridge. This is

[RBW] Re: Friend of Rivendell Maynard Hershon in LA Times

> > Maynard Hershon used to write for Winning magazine and later Velo News. A > compilation of his articles appeared in his books *Tales from the Bike > Shop* and *Half Wheel Hell and Other Cycling Stories*. Well written. > Stories about the bicycle racing scene in the 70's and 80's and the

Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

I refuse to wear a helmet .. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/YkCniRfhXeYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@go

Re: [RBW] Tokyo Cycle Show ( Picture Set )

Paul: many thanks again for taking the trouble to reply in detail and to find photos. I'll have to remember this if I ever get fenders for the errand Riv. Now all I have to do I find a useable source for 559 Honjos ... (Hiroshi, who sold me my first pair some years ago, hasn't carried them for som

Re: [RBW] Re: Wood

Yes, back in the 70s they were planning to build the (ill-fated) Tocks Dam and create a massive reservoir/recreational area. It thankfully never happened, and in the mean time the Dept of the Interior had bought up all the cabins/houses within the reservoir's planned 'footprint', forcing peopl

Re: [RBW] Re: Wood

On Wed, 2012-11-07 at 18:52 -0800, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > Yes, back in the 70s they were planning to build the (ill-fated) Tocks > Dam and create a massive reservoir/recreational area. It thankfully > never happened, and in the mean time the Dept of the Interior had > bought up all the cabins/h

Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

I actually laughed out loud at that Kelly. As per Grant's comments, One day there will be a party that is fiscally conservative but not antedeluvian. Until that day I'll be voting democrat pretty exclusively. How does that affect which companies I purchase from? I'm not sure. I still don't buy

[RBW] RBW garage sale

Just announced in the Blug: http://rivbike.tumblr.com/ Maybe we can do a bit of "Just Ride"-ing after. Manny's a good photographer -- perhaps he can video-stream it for the folks who aren't local. jim m just down the street, ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Go

[RBW] Re: RBW garage sale

Doing a overnight trip with my BoyScout troop the Friday to Saturday, most likely going to miss the Rivendell Garage sale. Might make the ride if it's planned in the afternoonish. Diablo is nice and close. Maybe dirt riding back down? Any suggestions? On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 7:41:09 PM

[RBW] Re: Friend of Rivendell Maynard Hershon in LA Times

He's well known in motorcycle circles, too; wrote for a free monthly motorcycle paper, City Bike, out of San Francisco for many years (I haven't seen one in a while). He has a downbeat style of writing that fit the paper well, but seemed a little off in the Readers. His last couple Reader pieces