[RBW] Re: Rivendell Garage Sale + After ride speical

2011-12-04 Thread Mike
Manny, thanks for posting the pictures. As always, they're winners. That's a great looking Hillborne in your set. I feel like I haven't been spending much time reading or looking at RBW related stuff but after looking at your set I'll have to look around on the Flickr page. I'll be in SF in 2 week

[RBW] Re: Helping out a fellow RBW and IBob‏ Member

2011-12-04 Thread Joe Bartoe
Hi Everyone, First off, thanks to those of you who have purchased one or more of Jon's prints, and thank you to all of you who have spread the word that his work exists and is for sale. I've been getting an amazing number of people visiting the site from other people's blogs and fb pages and t

[RBW] Bombadil Update and "His" Trek 620 Resurrected

2011-12-04 Thread Marty
Made a few changes to the Bombadil: 55mm SKS fenders with Sackville flaps (early black color), Paul Thumbie/Shimano bar-end on the rear derailer (now an XT), Suntour power shifter on the down-tube for the front derailer (now a Suntour Cyclone Mark II), Mark's rack up front, Headset-mounted bell,

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Garage Sale + After ride speical

2011-12-04 Thread Joe Bernard
That has to be the most photographed dumpster in history. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Hozp2hBtKFcJ. To post to this group, send

Re: [RBW] Bombadil Update and "His" Trek 620 Resurrected

2011-12-04 Thread jimD
Nice bikes! That Bombadil is something. -JimD On Dec 4, 2011, at 10:31 AM, Marty wrote: > Made a few changes to the Bombadil: 55mm SKS fenders with Sackville flaps > (early black color), Paul Thumbie/Shimano bar-end on the rear derailer (now > an XT), Suntour power shifter on the down-tube for t

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Garage Sale + After ride speical

2011-12-04 Thread Eric Norris
You can even see it from outer space: http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/6454637341/in/photostream --Eric On Dec 4, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Joe Bernard wrote: > That has to be the most photographed dumpster in history. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goo

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Garage Sale + After ride speical

2011-12-04 Thread cyclotourist
ROFL!!! On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Eric Norris wrote: > You can even see it from outer space: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/6454637341/in/photostream > > --Eric > > On Dec 4, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Joe Bernard wrote: > > That has to be the most photographed dumpster in history.

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Garage Sale + After ride speical

2011-12-04 Thread jimD
I believe I can detect lugs on the roof. -JimD On Dec 4, 2011, at 12:08 PM, cyclotourist wrote: > ROFL!!! > > On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Eric Norris wrote: > You can even see it from outer space: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/6454637341/in/photostream > > --Eric > > On D

[RBW] Mudflap in or out?

2011-12-04 Thread Joe Bunik
When mounting a (leather) mudflap to (Honjo) daruma bolts of a fender, is it better to go inboard or out? Thanks! =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Garage Sale + After ride speical

2011-12-04 Thread James Warren
The overshooters in the magnet game! -Original Message- From: jimD Sent: Dec 4, 2011 12:39 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Rivendell Garage Sale + After ride speical I believe I can detect lugs on the roof. -JimD On Dec 4, 2011, at 12:08 PM, cyclotourist wrote:

[RBW] Re: Bombadil Update and "His" Trek 620 Resurrected

2011-12-04 Thread Marty
FYI - the 620 is now for sale over on the iBob group. Or send me a note off-list. Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/0Kv1fKKnl

[RBW] Cycling Explained

2011-12-04 Thread SISDDWG
Check it out … up for a ride this w/e? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47cGzu6-q40&sns=em -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group,

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Garage Sale + After ride speical

2011-12-04 Thread Joe Bernard
"This pic generated by a lugged satellite." -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/oHTzv-W9TqoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-o

Re: [RBW] Mudflap in or out?

2011-12-04 Thread William Pustow
I don't know which is better but, traditionally, they're inboard. Bill Louisville, Ky On Dec 4, 2011, at 3:40 PM, Joe Bunik wrote: > When mounting a (leather) mudflap to (Honjo) daruma bolts of a fender, > is it better to go inboard or out? > > Thanks! > =- Joe Bunik > Walnut Creek, CA > > --

[RBW] Re: Cycling Explained

2011-12-04 Thread islaysteve
Thanks, very funny. My wife it totally mystified. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/TIYvIQuUQUoJ. To post to this group, send email

Re: [RBW] Mudflap in or out?

2011-12-04 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2011-12-04 at 12:40 -0800, Joe Bunik wrote: > When mounting a (leather) mudflap to (Honjo) daruma bolts of a fender, > is it better to go inboard or out? I can't imagine how you would do that. Normally you drill a couple of holes down at the bottom edge of the fender and bolt them on (to

[RBW] Re: Mudflap in or out?

2011-12-04 Thread Marty
Came across this - seems right to me: http://www.flickr.com/photos/77448006@N00/3221672976/in/pool-528785@N23/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-own

[RBW] Re: Mudflap in or out?

2011-12-04 Thread Kelly Sleeper
May not b as pretty but flat / very thin bolt head inside and nuts outside if you are in mud or bad conditions often. They (nuts) tend to catch leaves and such. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion

Re: [RBW] Re: Mudflap in or out?

2011-12-04 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2011-12-04 at 14:32 -0800, Marty wrote: > Came across this - seems right to me: > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/77448006@N00/3221672976/in/pool-528785@N23/ Here's mine: http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916047@N00/326011540/sizes/o/in/set-72157603355855778/ -- You received this mess

[RBW] Re: Cycling Explained

2011-12-04 Thread Mojo
Oh that's great! The older I get the more I relate to her point of view. I even got my parachute wings in the USAF back in the day. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://g

Re: [RBW] Mudflap in or out?

2011-12-04 Thread James Black
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 12:40, Joe Bunik wrote: > When mounting a (leather) mudflap to (Honjo) daruma bolts of a fender, > is it better to go inboard or out? I think the flap should go outboard, because if it is inboard it could disrupt the flow of water out the bottom of the fender. That said, in

Re: [RBW] Mudflap in or out?

2011-12-04 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2011-12-04 at 16:07 -0800, James Black wrote: > On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 12:40, Joe Bunik wrote: > > When mounting a (leather) mudflap to (Honjo) daruma bolts of a fender, > > is it better to go inboard or out? > > I think the flap should go outboard, because if it is inboard it could > dis

[RBW] Near-Catastrophic Rim Failure

2011-12-04 Thread Ray
Took a nice ride across the bridge and up to Hawk Hill, planning to get home in time to catch the 49er game at the end of 1st quarter. I didn't make it. My rear rim blew out as I took a slow (translated: continuous braking down 18% descent to hold speed at 10(-)mph.) descent down back side of Conz

Re: [RBW] Near-Catastrophic Rim Failure

2011-12-04 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2011-12-04 at 16:35 -0800, Ray wrote: > Took a nice ride across the bridge and up to Hawk Hill, planning to > get home in time to catch the 49er game at the end of 1st quarter. I > didn't make it. My rear rim blew out as I took a slow (translated: > continuous braking down 18% descent to h

[RBW] Re: Near-Catastrophic Rim Failure

2011-12-04 Thread EricP
First off - glad you are okay. Possibly could have been an overheated rim. On the other hand, had a similar rim failure early this year on my LHT (which is also a winter commuter). My LBS concluded that a small stone (or something similar) got stuck in a brake pad and quickly cut a deep groove i

Re: [RBW] Near-Catastrophic Rim Failure

2011-12-04 Thread Ray Shine
I did touch the rim, and it was hot. However, I've touched other rims on the same descent and they seemed hotter. I never rolled faster than 10 mph when I started the descent. I scared. So, I was on the brakes for about 3/4 mile on an 18% descent. The tires, tubes and wheels have been mated for

Re: [RBW] Near-Catastrophic Rim Failure

2011-12-04 Thread cyclotourist
Were the rims particularly narrow? 32mm isn't all that wide, but "fat" tires on narrow rims can lead to catastrophic failure. I wouldn't think this is the situation, but maybe one more variable that lined up against you today. Glad you could walk away from it and hope you're not too shaken. On

Re: [RBW] Near-Catastrophic Rim Failure

2011-12-04 Thread Ray Shine
No. I used to run these same wheels on my Canti-rom with 28s, but I've been using 32s on them for several years. Yes, and thanks to all for the best wishes. I'm fine, but can't help thinking that mountain does not want be on it for some reason… From: cyclot

[RBW] Re: Near-Catastrophic Rim Failure

2011-12-04 Thread grant
I've seen maybe fifteen rims fail this way, and ever time it's been caused by rock-wear, as Eric suggested. That's not to say nothing else can cause it, but that is (in my experience) the most common (100 percent) reason for it. Rim makers and tire makers build more wiggle- room into their stuffs t

Re: [RBW] Near-Catastrophic Rim Failure

2011-12-04 Thread Tim McNamara
On Dec 4, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Ray wrote: > Could this failure resulted from the long braking over-heating the rim > and the pressure blowing it out? Seems strange, but, can that happen? I've seen this before. Usually it is from braking wear thinning the sidewall over time, more prevalent for peo

Re: [RBW] Near-Catastrophic Rim Failure

2011-12-04 Thread James Black
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 16:35, Ray wrote: > Could this failure resulted from the long braking over-heating the rim > and the pressure blowing it out? Seems strange, but, can that happen? I'm wondering if the heat caused the tire to blow out, and it was the force of the tire blowout that then destr

Re: [RBW] Mudflap in or out?

2011-12-04 Thread Kelly Sleeper
Here are my mud flaps.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/6153799175/in/set-72157627561999537/ Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners

Re: [RBW] Mudflap in or out?

2011-12-04 Thread jimD
Oh no! Zip ties are the answer. They may not be appropriate fasteners for 'fine Rivendell bicycles' but face it, they really are da bomb. -JimD On Dec 4, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Joe Bunik wrote: > When mounting a (leather) mudflap to (Honjo) daruma bolts of a fender, > is it better to go inboard or

Re: [RBW] Near-Catastrophic Rim Failure

2011-12-04 Thread jimD
Sheesh, this is incredibly bad karma. Me, I'd stay off of that road. -JimD On Dec 4, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Ray wrote: > Took a nice ride across the bridge and up to Hawk Hill, planning to > get home in time to catch the 49er game at the end of 1st quarter. I > didn't make it. My rear rim blew out as

[RBW] Re: Cycling Explained

2011-12-04 Thread Kelly Sleeper
My first thought was .. Oh my I'm not a cyclist anymore .. I do remember doing my max heart rate stress test on a hill though.. Didnt throw up either .. Maybe I never was :) Made a dumb video once though http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n_UbH8icfs&feature=youtube_gdata_player Kelly -- You rec

Re: [RBW] Mudflap in or out?

2011-12-04 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2011-12-04 at 18:40 -0800, jimD wrote: > Oh no! > > Zip ties are the answer. > > They may not be appropriate fasteners for 'fine Rivendell bicycles' but face > it, they really are da bomb. Actually, they are Grant-approved and so quite appropriate for Rivendell bicycles, but certainly n

[RBW] Trying a Foss Tube

2011-12-04 Thread jimD
Since the rear JB green tire on my Riv Custom is showing significant wear and recently had a flat I decided that this is good time to try a Foss tube. The links on the Riv site lead to some interesting YouTube videos. The one from Foss is very marketing-esque. Foss seem very concerned with th

Re: [RBW] Re: Cycling Explained

2011-12-04 Thread jimD
"Up Periscope"! Thanks for the laughs. -JimD On Dec 4, 2011, at 6:50 PM, Kelly Sleeper wrote: > My first thought was .. Oh my I'm not a cyclist anymore .. I do remember > doing my max heart rate stress test on a hill though.. Didnt throw up either > .. Maybe I never was :) > > Made a dumb vide

Re: [RBW] Near-Catastrophic Rim Failure

2011-12-04 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2011-12-04 at 17:05 -0800, Ray Shine wrote: > I did touch the rim, and it was hot. However, I've touched other rims > on the same descent and they seemed hotter. I never rolled faster than > 10 mph when I started the descent. I scared. So, I was on the brakes > for about 3/4 mile on an 18%

Re: [RBW] Re: Near-Catastrophic Rim Failure

2011-12-04 Thread Ray Shine
Well, kind of glad to hear that -- only 15. I need a new rim now anyway, so maybe I'll BART out and show you guys the wheel and the failed section pretty soon. You guys -- and maybe Rich -- might offer a conclusion that would benefit some other folks on this list. (By the way, I'm not suggesti

Re: [RBW] Update Info; Near-Catastrophic Rim Failure

2011-12-04 Thread Ray Shine
After Eric's and Grant's responses, I went back downstairs and took a long hard look at things. I removed the right rear brake pad and found a strange groove cut into it, about the width of the failed rim piece. I tried to take a photo, but it doesn't show up well. The other interesting thing,

Re: [RBW] Near-Catastrophic Rim Failure

2011-12-04 Thread Joe Bunik
On 12/4/11, Tim McNamara wrote: > > I've seen this before. Usually it is from braking wear thinning the > sidewall over time, more prevalent for people who ride in hilly or > mountainous terrain and/or in rainy weather a lot. The road grit and slurry > that gets on the rims forms a nice grinding

[RBW] Re: Mudflap in or out?

2011-12-04 Thread Philip Williamson
I had my mudflaps inboard, but they would flip backwards and make an 'origami fold' that poked out and touched the tire, which would drag them up inside the fender. I would have to stop and fish them out. I moved the flaps to the outside, and all's well. I do have them attached with the draw bolts.

[RBW] Re: Near-Catastrophic Rim Failure

2011-12-04 Thread Manuel Acosta
Looks like thin side wall issues. Same thing happened to me lucky not on a decent down. On Dec 4, 4:35 pm, Ray wrote: > Took a nice ride across the bridge and up to Hawk Hill, planning to > get home in time to catch the 49er game at the end of 1st quarter. I > didn't make it.  My rear rim blew ou

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Garage Sale + After ride speical

2011-12-04 Thread Manuel Acosta
Found more pictures on the cam. These include camera dueling with Mr. Harry Hugel, sample photos of some bags that were on sale and some super cheap parts! Also got my xmas tree this morning via bike. Interesting thing that happens while riding down the street with a tree strapped to your back, you