[RBW] Re: Drop Bars vs. Non-drops

I actually would rather have albatross, flat bar/bar end combo or a mustache than drop bars. I don't like using brifters and find most drop bars too skinny, plus I don't like to ride in the drops so the bars aren't for me. The wider the better for me. I can't say I have ever wanted drop bars and

[RBW] Re: Drop Bars vs. Non-drops

Actually, of course, hawks and eagles do worry about aerodynamics. That's why they pull in their wings and hunker down when they're diving - which argues for drop bars - but stick their wings out as far as they'll go when they're just touring - clearly an argument for the albatross. Thanks all for

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?

New to RBW Owners... Woo hoo!! After working with Keven at RBW, seeking an answer to the tricky "which Riv is right for me" question, I opted for a Bombadil 60. I originally thought I had my mind made up with an AHH (mainly for light loaded on/off road travel), but since I'm 6'1", 230 lbs, Keven

[RBW] Re: I wanna see another Renovelo!

On Aug 27, 3:00 pm, William wrote: > and another > and another > > I'm sure they're not making profit on them, but the cashflow couldn't > hurt What is a renovelo? Is this another brand from Riv? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: I wanna see another Renovelo!

Dude! Where have you been? As part of his steel rules campaign, GP is taking Rivs that were damaged* in sundry mishaps, restoring and painting them, then selling at great prices as Renovelos. * One of the first batch was actually an out there custom the owner did not take. They added more Riv p

[RBW] Re: Hunqa and SO update on Riv site!

I can see that argument, but a Phil Wood rear hub dishes the wheel quite a bit in back. So not sure a disc wheel is inherently weaker. The Hunqa is too much of a personal issue for me to comment objectively. But my initial impression has not changed. The Simple-One does look nice. Actually sor

[RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

Well, one could use the Woodchipper bars in 25.4 with a DritDrop stem. The Luxy bars look like the Woodchipper with a tighter bend. Possibly a good idea, although I do find myself on the lower part of the Woodchipper on some climbs on the Salsa Fargo. The whole does seem to work well together.

[RBW] Re: Hunqa and SO update on Riv site!

I'm mostly interested in the Andel cranks. The logo will likely be removable by grade steel wool(ultrafine). I'm trying to get some of these in a 110/74 , but no one in the USA sells them except maybe Gaerlan Cycles, which sells some similar looking under the Vuelta brand name. Or yo

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?

Bob, Glad you joined the group! Am interested to see what you end up doing with the Bombadil. (Aside - we had exchanged e-mails when this was happening. Believe I suggested an AHH as an option.) Funnily enough, there is also a very slight chance my Fargo will be for sale in the future. If a p

[RBW] Re: Hunqa and SO update on Riv site!

I thought the diagonal would look bad to me BUT I actually like it alot. I wish all sizes had it because I ride a size too small to have it. On Aug 28, 8:13 am, Garth wrote: > I'm mostly interested in the Andel cranks.  The logo will likely be > removable by grade steel wool(ultrafine). > >

[RBW] WTB Front Phil Touring hub

Looking to buy a used or new Phil Wood front 36 hole touring hub.Possible trade for lightly used Sugino XD 600 triple crank 48/36/26. Thanx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?

Welcome! Enjoy the Bomb! Just a wee bit OT, but may I ask what size tires you have on the Fargo? What is max size a Fargo will accommodate? Again, Welcome to the group. Great bunch of resourceful folks, here. From: Montclair BobbyB To: RBW Owners Bunch S

Re: [RBW] Re: Drop Bars vs. Non-drops

Bars are much like saddles: what suits one person may not suit another. (He said sententiously.) I was thinking about these varying tastes yesterday when riding my two Rivs (not both at the same time: drove daughter to school; parked disreputable van in school lot -- btw, I am soliciting non-obsce

Re: [RBW] Re: Dario Pegoretti film

http://www.porcupinetree.com/ On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Rob Harrison wrote: > I really enjoyed it as well. Nicely shot. Of course, I love Italy and > Italians--we honeymooned there, so perhaps some waft of that romance > > Rob in Seattle > > On Aug 27, 2010, at 10:50 PM, Clayton Sco

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

That's the problem w/ wide dirt drops (lower case). They seem to be made to only be used in the drops. At least the Midge/Garys are like that, not sure about the WCs. And Philip, that Winter Cycles stem is beautifully mdade. Definitely not a kludge IMHO. On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 5:11 AM, EricP

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?

Eric: you had me in a tizzy just now: I just bought a Med Fargo from an Eric on the Boblist and I thought for a moment ... *He* is Eric Douglas. I'm curious: why are you selling your Fargo? And how did you set it up? And how did you find the ride and fit? I found out that the Fargo will take 60s

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

The Salsa Bell Lap can be ridden in all positions -- I like it for that reason and my only gripe is the anatomic hooks. On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 8:30 AM, cyclotourist wrote: > That's the problem w/ wide dirt drops (lower case).  They seem to be made to > only be used in the drops.  At least the Mi

[RBW] Re: Hunqa and SO update on Riv site!

I kinda like that they're leaning towards sidepulls (Silvers I imagine) for the SO. I've grown to really like those brakes on my Hilsen, they're just a lot easier to deal with than cantis. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To p

Re: [RBW] Re: Drop Bars vs. Non-drops

Aero all the way! On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 11:00 AM, kevin lindsey wrote: > Actually, of course, hawks and eagles do worry about aerodynamics. > That's why they pull in their wings and hunk

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?

My seller told me it will easily take 60s with fenders; Salsa says it will take 2.4s, tho' doesn't speak of fenders. On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 8:00 AM, Ray Shine wrote: > Welcome!  Enjoy the Bomb!  Just a wee bit OT, but may I ask what size tires > you have on the Fargo?  What is max size a Fargo w

Re: [RBW] Re: Drop Bars vs. Non-drops

I want a set of those for off road. On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 8:34 AM, cyclotourist wrote: > Aero all the way! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubsc

[RBW] Hunquapillar tire clearance

I may be wrong about the H not taking 2.35s with fenders -- tho' the website say "2.2s" the recent remarks say "added 5 mm to stay clearance." Does anyone know for sure? May have to sell my Fargo and get one of these ... Oh no! -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Pa

[RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

the Luxy is made to ride in the drops from what I've read. I have never been a fan of Salsa bars... I hate the double grooves and that anatomic bend is not comfortable. ~Mike~ On Aug 28, 7:38 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > The Salsa Bell Lap can be ridden in all positions -- I like it for > that re

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?

I wonder if that's the Bombadil I'm thinking of. Was it returned by a Group member? On Aug 27, 8:41 am, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > New to RBW Owners... Woo hoo!! > > After working with Keven at RBW, seeking an answer to the tricky > "which Riv is right for me" question, I opted for a Bombadil 60.

[RBW] Re: Hunquapillar tire clearance

The PDF says it will fit 60mm and "probably could even sport fenders with that size. That translates to 2.4 so my guess is it is quite possible that 2.35 would work with fenders. On Aug 28, 10:48 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > I may be wrong about the H not taking 2.35s with fenders -- tho' the > we

[RBW] Re: Hunquapillar tire clearance

I bought Eric Douglas's (boblist) Fargo -- frameset and wheels and parts -- because it will take 2.4s and has much more road bike geometry (eg, 57.5 cm tt instead of about 60 for the Monocog. It will be principally a replacement for the Monocog -- a sand capable all rounder -- and, on the occasion,

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunquapillar tire clearance

Well, I may not have found off-road all rounder cycling Nirvana with the Fargo, then. Damn! Must save for a Hunq ... On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Johnny Alien wrote: > The PDF says it will fit 60mm and "probably could even sport fenders > with that size.  That translates to 2.4 so my guess i

Re: [RBW] Re: Drop Bars vs. Non-drops

On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 11:00 -0700, kevin lindsey wrote: > Actually, of course, hawks and eagles do worry about aerodynamics. > That's why they pull in their wings and hunker down when they're > diving - which argues for drop bars - but stick their wings out as far > as they'll go when they're just

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?

BB Im so glad my ex-Bombadil got a new home and will fit you and serve you well. It is a wonderful bike and I'm sure you'll have some amazing adventures together. Let me know how you set it up and post pictures! René Sent from my iPhone 4 > > -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Stolen Riv?

If you are aware of an orange A/R having been stolen (could have been a while ago, I don't know), please contact me off-list. It's probably nothing, but I saw something that seemed a little suspicious to me. Greg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] pletscher double question

Has anyone had luck slightly bending in the non-drive side kickstand leg so as to allow the crankset to spin and therefore be able to make derailleur adjustments on the road? I may finally have a use for my rubber mallet. Thats with a Hillborne and XD2 crankset by the way. Thanks -- You receive

[RBW] Re: Drop Bars vs. Non-drops

> Not only do tourists descend -- not that descending in a hurry is such a > big thing for a tourist -- but they also climb.  Here, drop bars have it > all over albatross or any other upright bar. Perhaps. Although here is an experienced tourer who toured the Himalayas where I understand there ar

Re: [RBW] Re: Drop Bars vs. Non-drops

On Sat, 2010-08-28 at 15:22 -0700, JoelMatthews wrote: > > Not only do tourists descend -- not that descending in a hurry is such a > > big thing for a tourist -- but they also climb. Here, drop bars have it > > all over albatross or any other upright bar. > > Perhaps. Although here is an experi

[RBW] Re: Drop Bars vs. Non-drops

I think there are so many variances in people's preferred position while climbing ,let alone all riding , that one cannot say this or that bar is better for climbing. We are human , and we are flexible to different degrees. If only it was the bar or my position that could get more oxygen in

[RBW] Re: Drop Bars vs. Non-drops

> Talk about "touring heavy"!  Note, I said "upright bar" I did not say > "flat bar".  Looks like he's got a fair amount of drop between the bar > and the seat height, and for all we know, he could be fairly stretched > out on that rig, MTB fashion, rather than the sort of upright position > an alb

[RBW] Re: Hunquapillar tire clearance

I was at RBWHQ recently and saw one of the prototypes with 60mm Big Apples. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Aug 28, 9:51 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Well, I may not have found off-road all rounder cycling Nirvana with > the Fargo, then. Damn! Must save for a Hunq ... > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 28, 2010

[RBW] Re: Hunqa and SO update on Riv site!

Personally I like the look of a straight second top tube more than the diagonal. Also, I agree with James V. that the original Breezer style diagonal would be better (but a bit heavier if that even matters). With the diaga-tube will Riv change the Hunqa-graphics so the second crossbar on the "H"

[RBW] Re: Hunqa and SO update on Riv site!

Wait 'til you see the new Bombadil. Breezer redux. On Aug 28, 4:13 pm, Aaron Young <1ce...@gmail.com> wrote: > Personally I like the look of a straight second top tube more than the > diagonal.  Also, I agree with James V. that the original Breezer style > diagonal would be better (but a bit hea

Re: [RBW] pletscher double question

Be careful. I tried this with a Greenfield I installed on my daughter's bike and broke the leg just below the pivot. On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 3:20 PM, jandrews_nyc wrote: > Has anyone had luck slightly bending in the non-drive side kickstand > leg so as to allow the crankset to spin and therefore

[RBW] FS: size 44 but fit like 43 & 1/2 nice Vittoria sheepskin lined riding shoes, aftermarket rubber bottoms and heels, vg.

The soles and heels are almost as ew. The goop on the soles is a Shoe Goo-like substance to give more grip on a track pedal; it works. http://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/ForSale#5496098932757913170 http://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/ForSale#5496098938815176322 http://picasaweb.google.com/BE

[RBW] Vittorias sold; thanks.

On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 5:50 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > The soles and heels are almost as  ew. The goop on the soles is a Shoe > Goo-like substance to give more grip on a track pedal; it works. > > http://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/ForSale#5496098932757913170 > http://picasaweb.google.com/BERT

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?

Patrick, Nope, different Eric. Am actually probably not selling the Fargo. There is/was a slight chance a Bleriot could cross my path. If I purchased it, would need to get rid of one bike. Hence the possibility of the Fargo going away. Odds are highly against it, though. It is the bike I rode

[RBW] Re: Hunquapillar tire clearance

Wait until you try the Fargo before selling. One friend has BA 60's on his with room to spare. For off-road Nirvana, might need to wait until the Salsa Mukluk arrives. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Aug 28, 11:51 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Well, I may not have found off-road all rounder cycling Ni

[RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

The Woodchipper is designed to be ridden in the drops. With the hooks about even with saddle height. At least that's my preference. These bars do not have any grooves. Probably intentional with the fairly funky bends. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Aug 28, 9:56 am, Michael_S wrote: > the Luxy is

[RBW] Re: Hunqa and SO update on Riv site!

Riv has built Breezeresque bikes before. (Link follows) Interesting to note that the real Breezer had a downward sloping top tube - toward the head tube that is - and twin diagatubes ala Mixte. (you can see it in the second link. Maybe it's the photo that makes it look like it slopes down?) I like

[RBW] Re: Hunqa and SO update on Riv site!

There's a very early Breezer on display at Oakland Airport. On Aug 28, 5:46 pm, Marty wrote: > Riv has built Breezeresque bikes before. (Link follows) Interesting to > note that the real Breezer had a downward sloping top tube - toward > the head tube that is - and twin diagatubes ala Mixte. (you

[RBW] Re: Hunqa and SO update on Riv site!

On Aug 28, 4:40 pm, "Jim M." wrote: > Wait 'til you see the new Bombadil. Breezer redux. > Really? I wonder if the price will go up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googl

Re: [RBW] Hunqa and SO update on Riv site!

on 8/27/10 6:29 PM, Mike at mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: > Interesting. > > http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/352/original_aug28knothole.pdf Wow. Long week and day for me, but alligottasay is "wicked cool!" I'd be for simple-ing up the SimpleOne's hub/crank logos (but, overall, I'm a non-log

Re: [RBW] Re: Drop Bars vs. Non-drops

On Sat, 2010-08-28 at 16:07 -0700, Garth wrote: > I think there are so many variances in people's preferred position > while climbing ,let alone all riding , that one cannot say this or > that bar is better for climbing. > > We are human , and we are flexible to different degrees. > > If only it

[RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

Time for Riv to go threadless! On Aug 28, 12:23 am, Michael_S wrote: > my understanding is 31.8 only. Which does not leave any quill stem > options.  we will have to use one of those adapters  with a threadless > stem. > > ~Mike~ > > On Aug 27, 9:14 pm, cyclotourist wrote: > > > > > Are they goi

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: > Time for Riv to go threadless! > > Let's not have that happen. I really don't care for threadless very much. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To po

[RBW] Metric century is in the can!

Success! A GREAT ride with no IT band pain! I've been stretching, taking anti-inflammatories, moved exclusively to cleats (SPuDs) pushed out as wide as possible, and lowered the saddles a touch. Some combination of the above lets me ride longer distances, at least 63 miles worth!

Re: [RBW] Metric century is in the can!

Super! It sounds like things are working out great and you had a wonderful ride. It's encouraging because I'm just coming down with a bit of IT band pain have just started a stretching routine, etc. I've got a century coming up next month and have to register in the next day or two to get the reduc

[RBW] Re: Metric century is in the can!

David: Congrats on getting the IT band worked out & making a metric. I see from your speed averages the affect of the on-shore winds. You shoulda called. We did a modified Back Bay Loop today, swinging north into Newport to check out some door hardware. We were within a couple of miles of each

[RBW] Re: Drop Bars vs. Non-drops

Another reason that you need to be able to "get out over the front of the bike" is that some hills are steep enough that the front tire will leave the road unless you can counter that somehow with your upper body. Also, if your weight is too far forward, your back tire can lose traction on surface

Re: [RBW] Metric century is in the can!

David: Delighted you are able to get out and enjoy a longer ride again! Today was a gastronomical century aboard a Saluki. Breakfast in Tuskegee and lunch in Auburn at a famous spot, Toomer's Drug Store (has an old fashioned ice cream/soda fountain and table service too). Bike was comfortable

Re: [RBW] Metric century is in the can!

Robert: Take a real good rest after the flare up! That's the for sure port. Everything else is just guess work. I also used a roller, but not very frequently. I think using the SPDs and widening the tread was the most useful. The basic IT stretch worked well, too. I try to stop and stretch

[RBW] Re: Metric century is in the can!

David/Doug - I'd love to meet you in San Clemente for lunch next weekend if possible - let me know! Move in day at the college, and they wanted faculty to say hello to the new students, so no riding for me. I was trying to get them to get bikes and ride around town. Talked with about a half doze

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

Why not? On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery > wrote: >> Time for Riv to go threadless! >> >> > > Let's not have that happen. I really don't care for threadless very much. > > > -sv > > -- > You received this message

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunquapillar tire clearance

Oh, the choices! I am looking forward to the Fargo. At least, it ought to be considerably lighter -- well, a few lbs lighter -- than the H. 60 with room to spare means great, bc then, I assume, I can run the BAs on the SnoCats where they are 65 mm wide but no taller and still have room for fender

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?

Thanks, Eric P -- very nice. I am looking forward to mine: I've long wanted a bike that can handle the same sandy surfaces that I bought the Monocog for but has more road-like geometry; in particular, lower bb and shorter tt. I will probably -- tho' who knows? I've not seen it yet -- set mine up wi

Re: [RBW] Metric century is in the can!

Bruce: THANKS for the well-wishes! Those bikes are held back by their motors, aren't they! I did kinda' cheat in that my miles were pretty darn flat. Maybe 800 ft of elevation either way :-) Esteban: Wasting their residency... classic! Let's plan on it! On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Bruc

[RBW] Re: Metric century is in the can!

Congrats on the metric century! Good to hear your knee isn't giving you any grief and you're squeezing in longer rides. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroup

[RBW] Re: Hunqa and SO update on Riv site!

I kinda hope they do go with sidepulls with the SO. It'll make the QB and SO more distinguishable from each other. On Aug 28, 9:39 am, Mike wrote: > I kinda like that they're leaning towards sidepulls (Silvers I > imagine) for the SO. I've grown to really like those brakes on my > Hilsen, they'r

[RBW] Re: Metric century is in the can!

David: I'm in for next weekend if we can get the specifics nailed. Let's plan a meet up point & time. Since you've done SART & PCH in summer is a bit dodgy, I can come up with an alternate parallel route that won't rob you of miles. Figure out a schedule & let me know. BTW, I've gotten reports

[RBW] Re: Metric century is in the can!

Esteban / David: Recently we found a great sandwich shop on PCH near the North Beach Metrolink platform. There's also a cycling support / bike rental shop right at the platform. There's picnic tables outside, water, they sell stuff like energy drinks, tubes, gloves. Curious facility & worth a l

Re: [RBW] Re: Metric century is in the can!

Thanks! A metric has always been a good length for me. You get a feeling of accomplishment, but it doesn't take the entire day (I fed my kids breakfast on the front end, and took them swimming at the Y on the back end!). But I couldn't even do that amount a few months ago, so am pretty stoked no

[RBW] Re: Metric century is in the can!

Were you on your Rivendell road bike? How'd the bike feel? What tires were you rolling? You're right about the distance, the metric century is a really nice distance. In fact, you've inspired me to maybe do a ride that long this Monday. I was going to go bike camping but I don't think it'll work o

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqa and SO update on Riv site!

'ere you go - springer fork, even!: http://www.flickr.com/photos/66275...@n00/4899070155 On 8/28/10, William wrote: > There's a very early Breezer on display at Oakland Airport. > > On Aug 28, 5:46 pm, Marty wrote: >> Riv has built Breezeresque bikes before. (Link follows) Interesting to >> note

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqa and SO update on Riv site!

>From what I know (I think based on BQ???), tieing the laterals into the rear dropout is the correct way to build such a bike. If they go into the seat stays, it's not as strong. On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Joe Bunik wrote: > 'ere you go - springer fork, even!: > http://www.flickr.com/phot

Re: [RBW] Re: Metric century is in the can!

I love that bike! Light and zippy, but that may be the Open Pro 28h wheels and 30mm (labeled 35) Paselas. I want to get a light wheelset for my AR and see if I can replicate that (135 vs 130 spacing so can't just put those on it). If so, I'd probably sell the road and get down to one Rivendell +

[RBW] Re: Hunqa and SO update on Riv site!

That's the one. My photo was on my phone, and not worth sharing. On Aug 28, 9:23 pm, Joe Bunik wrote: > 'ere you go - springer fork, > even!:http://www.flickr.com/photos/66275...@n00/4899070155 > > On 8/28/10, William wrote: > > > There's a very early Breezer on display at Oakland Airport. > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Drop Bars vs. Non-drops

the oft-debated h bar subjective experiences lead to subjective opinions, try them out and find what works for you. i thought i'd hate the albatross, but it's the bar i ride everyday and on the right setup (more gears) would be a great hill climber. i opt for variety. erik On Sat, Aug 28, 201