[RBW] 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire

2009-06-11 Thread John McMurry
A little over a year ago, I made a few statements comparing tires based on theory. I was wrong. http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/ca91f41f70f6d57a I now have a few hundred miles on a pair of 584X32mm (actual 30mm) Grand Bois Cypres tires (same wheels, bicycle, etc.) and can po

[RBW] Re: Funny question this morning? (version 2: digital shifting)

2009-06-11 Thread XO-1.org Rough Riders
About six years ago I was on a ride in Solvang. I was on my Kestrel 4000 (the original Kestrel with the really large "aero"-shped tubes) with a Campy C-Record group. I caught a couple of other riders, both in their 20s, both on modern bikes with integrated shifting, etc. I reached down to shift ge

[RBW] Coffee holder

2009-06-11 Thread EricP
Thanks to whomever on the list suggested the Nissan Thermos sport bottle for carrying coffee on the bike. Found one on eBay and used it for the first time this morning. Commuted in on the Hillborne. The bottle works well. Rattled a bit in the King cage. But otherwise no trouble. Oh, and it k

[RBW] Re: Coffee holder

2009-06-11 Thread Eric Norris
Starbucks sells nice thermos bottles as well. I found called "groovy slim" on sale a few years ago. It will fit in a bottle cage, but I usually stow it in a handlebar bag. It will keep coffee warm all day. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org On Jun 11, 2009,

Re: SF Peninsula s24 overnight? was Re: [RBW] S24O: Crystal Cove, 6/27

2009-06-11 Thread Bill Rhea
Is there a campground at the top of Page Mill? Are you thinking of Black Mouintain (http://www.openspace.org/activities/ ideas_for_campers.asp)? Another possibility could be to descend on the hike n' bike at Half Moon Bay SP. There is also camping in Portola State Park, but it is a mighty steep

[RBW] Re: Chainline Question

2009-06-11 Thread Garth
Dave .. . I appreciate your input. I wish I could use an XD w/175mm arms . . . oh I wish I could. I'm used to it though, it's the "outside the norm" tax :) Your Carmina, their appears to be two versions, one with both sides of the arms anodized, the other with a bead blasted interior arm. W

[RBW] Re: Bay Area Riding - first week of June

2009-06-11 Thread Esteban
Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who gave me riding ideas. I have a couple of posts about the riding (and a visit to RBW) here: http://veloflaneur.wordpress.com/ And plenty of photos of our trip here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/sets/72157619088156277/ Thanks again! Esteba

Re: SF Peninsula s24 overnight? was Re: [RBW] S24O: Crystal Cove, 6/27

2009-06-11 Thread Anne Paulson
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Bill Rhea wrote: > > Is there a campground at the top of Page Mill?  Are you thinking of > Black Mouintain (http://www.openspace.org/activities/ > ideas_for_campers.asp)? That's the spot. I've camped there several times. Campers are alone in what might as well be

[RBW] Sam Hillborne's name

2009-06-11 Thread relistan
So I'm hoping someone here knows the answer to this. Where did Grant get the name of the Sam Hillborne? Maybe this was in a past Reader that I missed, or maybe it's obvious to everyone but me. I have a 60cm arriving shortly and names seem important an I thought I ought to know where the name co

Re: SF Peninsula s24 overnight? was Re: [RBW] S24O: Crystal Cove, 6/27

2009-06-11 Thread Adele Newman
I'm interested. I would vote for Foothills Park if someone in Palo Alto can come through--I'm in Mt View. I'm a bike camping newbie--tried Half Moon Bay with a small group last October and really liked it, but it's a tougher trip (big hill in both directions) from my place than I like to do fo

Re: SF Peninsula s24 overnight? was Re: [RBW] S24O: Crystal Cove, 6/27

2009-06-11 Thread Anne Paulson
OK, roll call time. Anyone from the Peninsula area (let's say, San Jose to Redwood City, more or less) who is interested in a sub-24 overnight, email me. Let me know what your schedule is, and what destinations appeal to you. Let's think about a trip in late June or late July. -- -- Anne Paulson

[RBW] Crank/BB/spindle tips (changing triple to double)

2009-06-11 Thread Darren Stone
Hi. I have a tech crankarm/BB/spindle question that could use some expert insight. Current: Saluki w/ Sugino 50-40-26 triple & Phil BB. It's fine but I definitely notice the "width"/tread/q-factor. My other rides are all singlespeeds, so that's to be expected. The triple is decadent but I'm

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne's name

2009-06-11 Thread Rick
Wish I could say, I googled it when they were announced, but did not find. I wait expectantly for someone else to provide the enlightenment. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

[RBW] Re: Crank/BB/spindle tips (changing triple to double)

2009-06-11 Thread Garth
That TA crank needs a 115mm BB, according to some info from Sheldon Browns site. This gives a very narrow Q of 134mm. You could go wider on the BB, but not narrower. These arms are straight. No bow. What is the current length of your spindle? I don't know the Saluki well enough, but a double of

[RBW] Re: Coffee holder

2009-06-11 Thread Rick
I have the King cage, and no rattles. I would suggest one of those skinny gas station cuzies for added insulation and rattle-free riding. On Jun 11, 11:40 am, Eric Norris wrote: > Starbucks sells nice thermos bottles as well.  I found called "groovy   > slim" on sale a few years ago.  It will f

[RBW] Re: Crank/BB/spindle tips (changing triple to double)

2009-06-11 Thread relistan
The Pro 5 Vis is a wonderful crank, IMHO, but I do want to point out that there is not much room between the outer chain ring and the arm. Make sure you have a derailleur that has a flat outer cage or you'll need to replace that, too. Cheers, Karl --~--~-~--~~~---~--~-

[RBW] Re: Crank/BB/spindle tips (changing triple to double)

2009-06-11 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:56 PM, relistan wrote: > > The Pro 5 Vis is a wonderful crank, IMHO, but I do want to point out > that there is not much room between the outer chain ring and the arm. > Make sure you have a derailleur that has a flat outer cage or you'll > need to replace that, too. I

[RBW] Re: Crank/BB/spindle tips (changing triple to double)

2009-06-11 Thread relistan
On Jun 11, 2:58 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > IIRC, the new production models have more room here. Check Velo Orange? I could be wrong, but I don't think so, because Chris at VO sells this derailleur and specifically mentions this case: http://www.velo-orange.com/fsagofrd.html I know on my 80's e

[RBW] Re: Crank/BB/spindle tips (changing triple to double)

2009-06-11 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Perhaps it's not VO, but I distinctly remember reading that someone had arranged a new run of the venerable Cyclotourists with more gap. (Or, at least I distinctly remember thinking that I remember thinking that I saw what I thought I was seeing as such an assertion) Bicycle Classics? Maripos

[RBW] Re: Crank/BB/spindle tips (changing triple to double)

2009-06-11 Thread Gino Zahnd
They may have moved it out a few mm, but it's still super tight on the new ones (I have 2 sets), and that FSA derailleur works well. Other derailleurs with completely flat cages like some Campy, and I believe the FD-6600-G Shimano America, might work. On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:08 PM, PATRICK MO

[RBW] Re: Crank/BB/spindle tips (changing triple to double)

2009-06-11 Thread Joe Szokoli
Hi, That would be my bike. I did change over to a Phil bottom bracket, now let me think; half of 115 is say 57 +3mm of spacers is 60 and that doubled would be 120mm. I think I ended up with a 122, to set the bike up symerrical, but I'm not a low Q nut as my knees like it a little wider than some.

[RBW] Re: Crank/BB/spindle tips (changing triple to double)

2009-06-11 Thread Garth
Are you thinking of the Sugino PX that VO sells? http://www.velo-orange.com/supxcr.html It has a wider Q, not sure about ring clearance though. On Jun 11, 6:08 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Perhaps it's not VO, but I distinctly remember reading that someone had > arranged a new run of the vener

[RBW] Re: Crank/BB/spindle tips (changing triple to double)

2009-06-11 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 16:08 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Perhaps it's not VO, but I distinctly remember reading that someone > had arranged a new run of the venerable Cyclotourists with more gap. I recall that as well. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne's name

2009-06-11 Thread Marty
There was a Sam Hill known as the "Father of good roads" in the 1920s. He championed the Pacific Highway. Could be a play on him. Then there was a movie a while back, but I can't recall what the Sam Hill Jason's last name was... On Jun 11, 4:20 pm, Rick wrote: > Wish I could say, I googled it w

[RBW] Re: Crank/BB/spindle tips (changing triple to double)

2009-06-11 Thread MichaelH
Two suggestions. Why don't you take a look at the White VBC crank before you buy. They have a very low Q and lots of ring flexibility. Second, one problem with a difference of 16 between rings is that once you shift rings you are many cogs away from the next gear, and in fact there really isn't a

[RBW] Re: Crank/BB/spindle tips (changing triple to double)

2009-06-11 Thread Darren Stone
Wow, some good feedback already. Thanks, all. I haven't pulled the cranks to determine spindle width for sure, but I just asked my LBS and they believe it was a 113 (maybe a 111?) that they put in there for the Sugino triple. That doesn't seem very long, but then this BB stuff is an aspect of b

[RBW] Re: Crank/BB/spindle tips (changing triple to double)

2009-06-11 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Darren Stone wrote: > Does > it make sense that a TA double would need a longer spindle than I'm > currently using for a Sugino triple? In the current and rather weird jargon term: "Absolutely." I don't have much experience with cranks built after, say, 1990,

[RBW] Re: Chainline Question

2009-06-11 Thread Dave Craig
Garth No problem. I found building up this aspect of the Bombadil to be a little puzzling, but it was worth getting right. FYI, I found out after buying a couple of BB's that Phil will switch spindles on BB's for about 1/3 what a new BB costs. My Carmina crank (a 180mm, by the way - my PBH is 37