Re: [RBW] Re: Rim width vs tire width

2024-12-12 Thread J-D Bamford
I tend to trust matrices published by WTB and Rene Herse because there's evidence they really put some thought into it and in all likelihood have written notes on things they've tried if not formally tested. Whereas other sources will just have a sentence or two and it feels like a lawyer's take

Re: [RBW] Re: Rim width vs tire width

2024-12-11 Thread Armand Kizirian
Jan Heine's take on the topic. I trust his opinions on tires, hard to argue that many people in the world have spent more time studying and experimenting with tires. https://www.renehersecycles.com/myth-18-wide-tires-need-wide-rims/ On Wednesday, December 11, 2024 at 12:18:29 PM UTC-8 robtw...

Re: [RBW] Re: Rim width vs tire width

2024-12-11 Thread Bob Walicki
Ha, was in my LBS on Monday picking up my bike and talking about building up some 650b wheels. We were chatting about rim width with respect to tire width and the only callout my pro made was that a wider rim will "flatten" the tire profile. I mentioned that maybe really wide tires would look silly

Re: [RBW] Re: Rim width vs tire width

2024-12-11 Thread Patrick Moore
+1. Back in my day I rode 50 mm tires aggressively offroad on ~13 mm IW rims for years with no problem, and recently rode 72 mm actual tires on ~18 mm IW rims, tubeless tires on non-tubeless rims, just with lotsa tape, again with no problems. You do have to keep the pressure up, tho’ I rode the 72

Re: [RBW] Re: Rim width vs tire width

2024-11-29 Thread Seth
How does the calculus change for tubular tires/rims? On Thursday, November 28, 2024 at 6:29:33 PM UTC-5 Stephen Durfee wrote: > Wish this thread had been started yesterday, as I tried fitting a 2.1" > Billy Bonkers onto an old Mavic 217 rim (17mm), got scared from the > lightbulb profile, then

Re: [RBW] Re: Rim width vs tire width

2024-11-29 Thread Peter Adler
That's a good question. I only know about old tubular rims, which are all fairly narrow; 20mm sidewall-to-sidewall on a 1960s Fiamme Red Label I just checked is typical. But even on wider profile types like the old Dugast 32-33mm cyclocross tires I have around or the 36mm Challenge Strada Bianca

Re: [RBW] Re: Rim width vs tire width

2024-11-28 Thread Stephen Durfee
Wish this thread had been started yesterday, as I tried fitting a 2.1" Billy Bonkers onto an old Mavic 217 rim (17mm), got scared from the lightbulb profile, then called Rich to order up a new wheel...but now I'll finally have a proper matched rear to go with the front dynamo wheel that he buil

Re: [RBW] Re: Rim width vs tire width

2024-11-28 Thread Patrick Moore
Exactly. With appropriately wide rims you can play relatively fast and loose with tire pressure, but with really fat tires on not-quite-wide-enough rims you do have to be more careful about pressure. Still …. 72 mm actual on ~19 mm IW rims at 12 psi (tubeless) … Happy Thanksgiving, everyone. I go

Re: [RBW] Re: Rim width vs tire width

2024-11-28 Thread Mackenzy Albright
I emailed Jan Heine once about RTP's on mavic 717 which have a narrow inner width - I think 17mm. He said it was fine. I ran them for a long time and was indeed fine. I did notice that when the tires tended to squirm at lower pressure vs SBH's on velocity blunt SL's (19mm) but those were also t

Re: [RBW] Re: Rim width vs tire width

2024-11-28 Thread Patrick Moore
Sorry, that should be: 72 mm actual width WTB Rangers tubeless on ~ 19 mm IW rims. On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 1:13 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > +1 for almost any tire on any rim, and I can beat Will by 4 mm: 72 mm > actual WTB Rangers tubeless on 21 mm IW OEM Alex rims on that Monocog — > non-tubeless

Re: [RBW] Re: Rim width vs tire width

2024-11-28 Thread Patrick Moore
+1 for almost any tire on any rim, and I can beat Will by 4 mm: 72 mm actual WTB Rangers tubeless on 21 mm IW OEM Alex rims on that Monocog — non-tubeless but even at 12 psi no problems. (Perhaps no problems *because* 12 psi.) Back in the day Sun and other major mfrs made 13 mm IW 26” “semi-aero”