Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Friction & Ghost Shifting Reconsidered.

2012-08-27 Thread Stonehog
Those '88 XT thumbies are the business! Mobile Brian Hanson On Aug 26, 2012, at 5:03 PM, Eric Platt wrote: > I've been using friction shifting with nine speed on one bike. With caveats, > it's upright bars and a ca. 1988 Shimano XT thumb shifter. With that shifter > 9 speeds doesn't seem to

Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Friction & Ghost Shifting Reconsidered.

2012-08-26 Thread Eric Platt
I've been using friction shifting with nine speed on one bike. With caveats, it's upright bars and a ca. 1988 Shimano XT thumb shifter. With that shifter 9 speeds doesn't seem to be an issue. It's a 12-36 paired with a 39t front and using a regular Deore long cage derailleur. Have not had an pr

Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Friction & Ghost Shifting Reconsidered.

2012-08-25 Thread Eric Daume
This dearth of 8 speed cassettes had me momentarily worried, until I saw it wasn't so. For instance, here's a range of 12-21 thru 13-26: http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=12017&category=42 in addition to all the usual 11-something. Which is comforting, because 8 spe

Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Friction & Ghost Shifting Reconsidered.

2012-08-25 Thread Michael Hechmer
Sorry about your experience Phil. Mine has been quite different. I spent nearly 20 years riding and racing with Campy DT shifters and NR deraillers. They had a definite overshift and it became second nature to me to shift pass the gear (first 6 & then 7 spd freewheels) and back a smidge. In

Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Friction & Ghost Shifting Reconsidered.

2012-08-25 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Very interesting; I find the Silvers far better than the old SunTour Power Rachets; in fact, the Silvers are the best BES I've ever used. I don't have a problem with them loosening. I use them off road, too. Perhaps I just have lower expectations? I am pretty sure I shift less than most multi-speed

Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Friction & Ghost Shifting Reconsidered.

2012-08-25 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sat, 2012-08-25 at 15:41 -0700, Phil Bickford wrote: > > It might be enough to convince me to go back to five speed cassettes. AFAIK there never were five speed cassettes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to thi

Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Friction & Ghost Shifting Reconsidered.

2012-08-25 Thread Phil Bickford
Thanks for writing up your experiences with these different and quite interesting bikes. I could never get the Silvers to work for me. I wish Grant had gone one (big) step more in engineering and designed them with a ratcheting action like the Suntour Bar-ends I had on some of my older bikes.

Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Friction & Ghost Shifting Reconsidered.

2012-08-25 Thread Michael Hechmer
> > I find it amazing that you wear out 11T sprockets. I have 13T sprockets > I've been using (on 12-27 --> 13-30 9 speed conversions) that I've been > using since 2005 that are still fine. I'm amazed your 11s get any wear > at all, since (as already noted) 11 x anything is so high as to be

Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Friction & Ghost Shifting Reconsidered.

2012-08-25 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sat, 2012-08-25 at 14:05 -0700, Michael Hechmer wrote: > Seven speed can be a good solution for a friction triple. I commuted > on a 7 sped freewheel for many years and it worked fine for me. But 7 > spd cassettes are rare, generally of lower quality and often have very > big jumps between cog

Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Friction & Ghost Shifting Reconsidered.

2012-08-25 Thread Michael Hechmer
Seven speed can be a good solution for a friction triple. I commuted on a 7 sped freewheel for many years and it worked fine for me. But 7 spd cassettes are rare, generally of lower quality and often have very big jumps between cog sizes. I like the availability of 12-27 & 11-28 9 speed cas

Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Friction & Ghost Shifting Reconsidered.

2012-08-25 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sat, 2012-08-25 at 11:42 -0700, Scot Brooks wrote: > Embarrassingly, I have an absolutely awful time getting precise shifting with > my Gran Compe shifter/LX SGS RD/Shimano 12-36t 9-speed cassette combo. Almost > every time I stand up, I get the sickening crunch type downshift. I have > non-r

Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Friction & Ghost Shifting Reconsidered.

2012-08-25 Thread Brian Hanson
Drop the cassette to 7 or 8 speed. I found that worked well in the city - easier to do by feel... That or try Michael's suggestion of going to a short cage derailler. Either way it means a new cassette :( Brian Seattle, WA On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Scot Brooks wrote: > Embarrassingly,