Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

2016-08-20 Thread Bob Lovejoy
Scratch my HC front rack idea... A Mark's rack it will be! Ahh, the details... Bob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsub

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

2016-08-20 Thread Bob Lovejoy
Congrats Sean! Like I said, a bike that makes one smile (and remember the smile!) is a great thing... I am envious of your chance to ride a Cheviot before ordering. Not that I have any doubts but it would have been nice. My build should end up very close to yours, Tubus rear rack, Albatr

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

2016-08-20 Thread Joe Bernard
I think that bike looks great in grey. One cool thing about that color is you can "paint" it with bar tape, cages and cables to brighten it up later if you'd like. Red accents would be awesome! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" grou

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

2016-08-20 Thread SeanMac
I wanted to again thank everyone for their comments about the Rivendell Cheviot. I'm happy to say that I did finally pull the trigger - a few days ago I put a deposit down on a Cheviot! I decided to go with the grey color - 60 cm (my pbh is 86. I rode a 60 Cheviot a few weeks ago and Riv HQ a

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

2016-08-16 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Is there a report that this cannibalization is actually happening? If so, why the company just came out with three new Chev colors is puzzling, though it may have something to do with long lead times--or an attempt to "revive" the model. I have no idea if the active members on this list represe

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

2016-08-16 Thread iamkeith
Kind of a shame. If the Clem L is killing the Chev, i almost think this is more of the reason than the price. A hunq fork crown and cantis (and bottle cage brazeons?) could transform the Chev into a perfect bike for me. I wonder if heel clearance would be an issue with brakes mounted on the m

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

2016-08-16 Thread iamkeith
Kind of a shame. If the Clem L is killing the Chev, i almost think this is more of the reason than the price. A hunq fork crown and cantis (and bottle cage brazeons?) could transform the Chev into a perfect bike for me. I wonder if heel clearance would be an issue with brakes mounted on the m

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

2016-08-16 Thread Clayton.sf
50 is about the max. If you are running fenders, adding a centerpull (I use diacompe) in the front greatly increases breathing room. I have run 47mm with fenders on my 60cm and that was tight. 42s are preferred. Clayton Scot SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to t

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

2016-08-16 Thread Jon in central Colorado
Brian told me that 50 was max on the Cheviot. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to t

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

2016-08-16 Thread iamkeith
Thanks, Bob & Eric. Not the answer i hoped for, but helpful. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

2016-08-16 Thread Bob Lovejoy
A search for "cheviot tire clearance" in this list turns up this... Great build and beautiful bike! The pictures in that post answer at least some of the questions. 700x50 Big Applies would seem to be about the largest tire that would work. And, I suspect, with the fluctuation in actual tire

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

2016-08-16 Thread iamkeith
Does anybody happen to have a 60cm Chev, and would you be willing to take some measurements and photos of the tire clearance? Also (or maybe more important), is the tightest spot at the fork blades or the chainstays or the brakes themselves? The last call revelation plus the new colors have

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

2016-08-16 Thread Bob Lovejoy
Michael, Do you think she is possibly measuring the CS length from, say, the back of the BB? I can see where measuring chain stay length has at least several interpretations. I have come to measure CS length from the center of the BB to the rear dropout or center of the rear axle but I am def

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

2016-08-16 Thread Michael Hechmer
I have seen what the web site states; but when I asked my daughter to measure the CS on her 50 cm Cheviot, she reported 42.5. She lives about 40 miles from me, but the next time I am at her home I will measure them myself just to make sure we are starting at the same point. Michael On Tuesd

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

2016-08-16 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Hi Michael, The Cheviot has chain stays that get longer with larger sizes. (Chart pic on http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/f-cheviot.htm) 50cm frame -- 45cm chain stay 55 frame -- 50cm chain stay 60 frame -- 54cm chain stay I think this is fairly unusual for a manufacturer to have different chain

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

2016-08-16 Thread Michael Hechmer
My wife's 55 cm Betty has 43.5 cm chain stays. I know that the RBW site list the Cheviot at 45cm, but I couldn't see any difference when I built my daughter's bike up. I called her and asked her to measure the chain stay on her 50 cm Cheviot and she got 16.75", which comes to 42.5. She may b

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

2016-08-14 Thread Sean McAtee
Howard - Congratulations on your frame order! I noticed earlier today that there were only three grey Cheviots left. I have a funny feeling that I am going to follow your lead before the day is over. A Cheviot is quickly becoming the bike that I do not want to let get away. I can't seem to rec

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

2016-08-14 Thread Howard Hatten
Hi Leah Not sure when I'll take delivery. Sounds like frames are on the way to RBW. I'm going with a frame set. Not sure how the build will end up. I plan to make this my grocery getter & pub crawler. Winter project I suspect. Howard Livonia Mi -- You received this message because you are sub

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

2016-08-14 Thread Leah Peterson
Beyond excited for you. Envious, even! When do you expect to take delivery? Whole bike, or frame set? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 14, 2016, at 1:14 PM, Howard Hatten wrote: > > Been following this post. I've been trying to decide if I want that 60 green > demo Chev. RBW is currently listing

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

2016-08-14 Thread Howard Hatten
Been following this post. I've been trying to decide if I want that 60 green demo Chev. RBW is currently listing or that grey with cream accents frame set. Bobs post that he has a 60 on order led me to search the quantity availability. Wow, only 4 60cm's left in grey. What to do, what to do.

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

2016-08-14 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
I think your current green bags will be fantastically attractive with a gray Chev. Regarding your color choice, when choosing between orange and black for my Clementine, though I like orange bikes, I went with black, partially because there is a rather prominent Public mixte in town in bright

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

2016-08-13 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
I am very fortunate to have gotten a discount orange Cheviot frame that I had built up recently. It replaced my Surly Pacer (my wife will definitely not tolerate any more bikes!, but am very fortunate that she tolerated a replacement bike!). The bike is setup with an Albastache bar, thin gripster

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

2016-08-13 Thread Deacon Patrick
To exclude smiles from logic is illogical. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, August 13, 2016 at 7:48:22 PM UTC-6, Bob Lovejoy wrote: > > > One thing I will add... For bikes I have bought, as well as other things, > the ones I regretted were the ones I decided on with only logic. The fact

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

2016-08-13 Thread Bob Lovejoy
I will just add my vote, such as it is, for the Cheviot. In fact, I have voted with a deposit as I have had a 60cm grey reserved for awhile now. I initially thought about a black Clem (actually a Clementine) but decided that if I was going to get a Rivendell, I wanted something I would more l

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

2016-08-13 Thread Surlyprof
Sean, That green was one of my favorite Riv colors (except maybe the recent matte green Roscoe Bubbe). Was surprised when they didn't do it again. I always thought I'd paint my Hillborne that color if I ever bother to repaint it. I also thought the grey looks pretty great in the blug shots.

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

2016-08-13 Thread Joe Bernard
I think green bags would look better on the orange bike. But if I ever get a Cheviot, I'll be looking for the green no-cream-headtube bike and put tan bags on it. That would be gorgeous! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To u

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

2016-08-13 Thread Sean McAtee
This thread has been so informative. Thank you all for your comments and stories. Having lots of data points certainly is helpful in determining what course of action to take - to buy or not to buy a Cheviot. I've read through the comments a few times and the consensus seems to be that those who

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

2016-08-12 Thread Jon Dukeman
Thanks Irving. NICE! "FRIENDS DON'T LET FRIENDS RIDE JUNK " On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Irving wrote: > It's a Nitto Longboy Longstay that is apparently discontinued now. > > On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 12:36:35 PM UTC-7, Jon in central Colorado > wrote: >> >> Irving, >> Nice looking

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

2016-08-12 Thread Eric Daume
They Cheviot has significantly longer stays than the Betty. It's more than just a color and name change (that was the Yves Gomez model) On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 7:22 AM, Michael Hechmer wrote: > My wife has a Betty (nearly identical to a Cevy) and my daughter a Cheviot > and the both love them.

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

2016-08-09 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/09/2016 03:04 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: The problems with selling a used custom steel bike are two-fold. First is that you have to come to grips with the fact that a custom frame is valuable because it is custom. The freedom to change things until they are perfect for you is valuable. Th