Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-15 Thread Patrick Moore
But I'm 68 ("and a half," as small children like to insist) ? Patrick "thy youth shall be renewed like the eagle's" Moore On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 5:25 PM George Schick wrote: > Well Patrick, I can only say that I beckon back to a TV broadcast of a > professional bowling tournament in the ea

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-15 Thread Garth
Leah, you feel "wobbly" because you're too far back relative to the bottom bracket. Hence, you "mash" because that position leaves you no choice. It's not "just your style", it's what that setup allows for. For fun, sit in a chair, extend your legs so that your calves are 90 degrees relative to

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-15 Thread 'John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ' via RBW Owners Bunch
Leah, perhaps the Brooks on the Mermaid is setback 10mm more than the Rivet on the Raspberry. However, the Raspberry seatpost SB is 42mm with 0 on the IRD scale corresponding to an actual 20mm. The Mermaid has a 'standard' looking seatpost, most likely with 20mm SB. The 10mm in saddle posit

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-15 Thread George Schick
Well Patrick, I can only say that I beckon back to a TV broadcast of a professional bowling tournament in the early 70's where one of the contestants was delivering the ball to the lane with his left leg ending up in a more or less vertical stance. When the play-by-play announcer asked the "co

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-15 Thread Roberta
Beautiful. She has basically. New bike. Love the cream head tube and the filled in hearts. On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 4:52:57 PM UTC-4 Max S wrote: > Before & after for my honey's bikie... This Yves Gomez was advertised in > "as new" condition, which was a fine claim, except it turned ou

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-15 Thread Patrick Moore
One more remark. About 20 years ago when I was in my youthful late 40s I happened across a retired man who'd set up a sort of casual bike museum here in ABQ; can't remember his name or the location, but he had all sorts of nice old school road bikes; was it he or was it Dick "Call me Mister" Hallet

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-15 Thread Leah Peterson
I’m nearly sure Rivet Sonora is 10mm shorter rails than Brooks. I think that could account for the difference.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 15, 2023, at 7:03 PM, 'John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:Leah stated concerning her Mermaid Platy:  " This one has a Brooks. I know it sou

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-15 Thread Patrick Moore
George: Physiologies and psychologies differ considerably among riders. Me, I *like* standing and torquing up hills; I used to do this when climbing a local 7-mile hill on a 70" or 75" fixed gear: stand for half-a-mile-to-a-full-mile, sit for 30 seconds and strain your knees while resting your lun

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-15 Thread 'John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ' via RBW Owners Bunch
Leah stated concerning her Mermaid Platy: " This one has a Brooks. I know it sounds crazy but this bike feels perfect to me and I believe it to be because the Brooks rails are a little longer and allow for just enough setback. " My Comment: Brooks B17s are notorious for their rails having a sh

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-15 Thread Patrick Moore
I rarely agree with Leah (*) but I am one old-school rider who also likes his saddle slammed back and his gears high, and I blame Grant. I used to be a spinner -- would maintain 20-22 mph over distance in a 64" gear, back when I was a pimpled 40-something -- until I started ordering bikes from Rive

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-15 Thread George Schick
Also Leah, ever study the difference between slow twitch (weight work out) muscles vs. fast twitch (running, fast cadence) muscles during your medical education? There's a big, big difference between the function of these two and their applicability to cycling. On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-15 Thread George Schick
It kinda reminds me of a Star Trek episode in the first of the TV 60's series of the show entitled "A Taste of Armageddon" where the Enterprise has sent a landing party down to a planet that observes "theoretical warfare" against another planet in their solar system: - Spock

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-15 Thread 'John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ' via RBW Owners Bunch
Curious if Leah has her other Rivendells set up the same way. John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 5:03:31 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote: > I'll probably get clobbered for my reply to this discussion - I'm used to > it - but from viewing the pics of Leah's bikes in this thre

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-15 Thread Leah Peterson
George, lol, that IS what I do. And I never knew there was really any other way! I dislike the feeling of spinning. It feels wobbly and out of control. So I don’t - I just leave it in the “hard” gear. BUT, I do shift to an easier one at stop signs now. My knees were killing me tryng to race up to s

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-15 Thread George Schick
I'll probably get clobbered for my reply to this discussion - I'm used to it - but from viewing the pics of Leah's bikes in this thread plus others in previous threads, her bike always seems to be either in the highest gear or at least the next to highest. And she has admitted to as much in pre

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-15 Thread 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch
Ok, I understand Moving the saddle back increases the saddle to bar distance by about 2.5cm.  This indicates the frame/stem/bar combination was too SHORT. Then, You cut 1 cm from the bars.  This increased the saddle to bar distance, indicating the frame/stem/bar combination was too SHORT, but is

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-15 Thread Joe Bernard
Moving the saddle back moves it further away from the bars, you were correct. On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 11:45:23 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote: > Thanks, John. > > I must have said it wrong. I moved my saddle AWAY from the bars, towards > the rear end of my bike. I think that's called aft (I h

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-15 Thread Roberta
Thanks, John. I must have said it wrong. I moved my saddle AWAY from the bars, towards the rear end of my bike. I think that's called aft (I had to look it up). the bars were still too close, so I cut off 1cm (after a year of trying to feel OK). If the stem had come in an 11cm, I would have

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-15 Thread 'John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ' via RBW Owners Bunch
Roberta Pushing the saddle BACK to the back of the clamp, moves the saddle FORWARD the maximum amount. This indicates the saddle to bar distance is too long and your needed to reduce the reach. Maybe you pushed it too far forward, most Brooks have only 20 to 30mm of total fore/aft motion..

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-15 Thread 'John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ' via RBW Owners Bunch
Leah you stated " What’s weird is that I sized up! My PBH would technically fit the 50!" >From the pictures you posted, your seatpost is almost fully inserted in the seat tube. This indicates the frame is the LARGEST frame for your PBH. However, your need for a LONG reach indicates you need a

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-15 Thread Roberta
I've had a few emails with other RivSisters who own Platys and there are quite a few of us who've commented on having to push one's saddle back as far as the rails could take it. I'm on a 55 Platy with 83cm pbh--one or two more than Leah AND I like my saddle high-- and would probably like min

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-15 Thread Leah Peterson
What’s weird is that I sized up! My PBH would technically fit the 50!Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 15, 2023, at 12:55 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:Reflecting on all the setback talk, I do think the reach may be inherently a tad short for the rider in question. I'm the same height as Leah - possibly even sho