Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

2016-04-29 Thread Don Compton
Patrick, As I age ( 64 ), I am still enjoying riding, but the "roadie club" rides have become less attractive to me. I put together a Sunday ride from my home and usually have 8-15 people show up. Maybe because I am getting older, I am getting less tolerant of riders whole can't appreciate the

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

2016-04-28 Thread Patrick Moore
I dislike officious roadies myself, but I like to remember that I've met many very friendly ones, in fact, the higher up on the racing scale, the nicer they seem. Some people like to toodle along, others like to push themselves, I'm rather in the middle, and I say, *vive la difference.* On Thu, A

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

2016-04-26 Thread Hugh Smitham
Hey is this John Oliver masquerading as Jim Warren?? Or perhaps the "Dude" Priceless. "This aggression will not stand, man". ROTFL On Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 3:05:35 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: > > For me, Julian's story is notable for one huge reason: > > that the guy said to him, "you're

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

2016-04-20 Thread Ron Mc
the punch-line is the irony - his ignorance in voicing his perception of your ignorance On Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 5:53:40 PM UTC-5, Julian wrote: > > In my experience good comments far outweigh bad, and both are dwarfed by > the norm - -no comment, which is what I would expect. > > This g

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

2016-04-20 Thread Julian
In my experience good comments far outweigh bad, and both are dwarfed by the norm - -no comment, which is what I would expect. This guy was not threatening, just obnoxious and clueless -- my biggest issue was trying not to respond in kind, which is tough indeed when faced with persistent idioc

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

2016-04-20 Thread Will
Nah... next time Julian says: "It sucks to ride a hand made frame from one of the top shops in the world..." Then he looks at the carbon bike, maybe pinches one of its skinny tires... AND LAUGHS. On Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 5:05:35 PM UTC-5, James Warren wrote: > > For me, Julian's story i

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

2016-04-20 Thread Julian
Hah! Too make the motley group on that ride (myself included) actually look worse than we did would be an achievement worth noting! On Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 5:05:35 PM UTC-5, James Warren wrote: > > For me, Julian's story is notable for one huge reason: > > that the guy said to him, "you

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

2016-04-20 Thread James Warren
For me, Julian's story is notable for one huge reason: that the guy said to him, "you're making us look bad." This will not stand, ya' know. This aggression will not stand, man. - James Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 20, 2016, at 2:38 PM, Ryan Fleming > wrote: > > Actually, in Winnipeg , I'

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

2016-04-20 Thread Ryan Fleming
Actually, in Winnipeg , I've never been dissed for what I was riding either. There are not so many Riv owners in Winnipeg...I would guess it's a very small population (20 or so?), so Rivs are unusual enough that they garner attention, it's usually complimentary and this is based on 23 years

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

2016-04-20 Thread masmojo
Honestly, it's been my experience that the Freds, "roadies", mamils, etc. Don't need anything to make themselves look bad; when I used to race mountain bikes some years back, I would go for long excursions on the weekend outside of town. Large groups of lycra clad roadies, would sometimes pass

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

2016-04-20 Thread Patrick Kelly
Jumping in here pretty late... 'If you are willing to look at another person’s behavior toward you as a reflection of the state of their relationship with themselves rather than a statement about your value as a person, then you will, over a period of time cease to react at all.' - Yogi Bhajan Bu

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

2016-04-20 Thread Ron Mc
I don't build/ride bikes for other people - except maybe my daughter. I honestly don't care what they think. Sometimes have to wonder why. A bit of internet searching can often provide answers: http://forums.roadbikereview.com/bikes-frames-forks/1-reason-why-you-wont-buy-rivendell-bikes-stu

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

2016-04-20 Thread Jim Bronson
Old enough to know better, young enough not to care ;) On Apr 19, 2016 16:49, "IanA" wrote: I'd take that over the comments that I get. My bikes are Riv-like in set-up. My daily ride is a single-speed and I live in a valley, so hills in every direction. I'm 48, most of my hair is grey and I li

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

2016-04-20 Thread Ron Mc
could OP a thread, pleasant encounters with other riders. We all have them, and some of them, too, stick out. Why I like my carbon bike better than my steel bike. Why I like lycra better than baggy canvas shorts. Why I like gel saddles and padded underwear, etc. I tried one on platform pe

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

2016-04-20 Thread Ron Mc
Evan, we're not bad people. We're not badmouthing your friend with the carbon bike (or you if you have one - knock your lights out). Life is full of strange encounters, some leave us feeling mildly insulted, some stick out in our minds. Every day we have weird experiences whether driving beh

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

2016-04-20 Thread Ron Mc
Right? Wrong. Folks making observations with a narrow brush. No wide generalizations except your own. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-ow

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

2016-04-20 Thread Joe Bernard
You'll note I went with the "stand there and look at the guy like he's an idiot" scenario. There's no chance I'm dropping anyone on a group ride. Also no chance I'm going on a group ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. T

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

2016-04-19 Thread Evan E.
One day I'd love to see a thread in which no one says something to the effect of "Those Lycra-clad roadies stop laughing at my bike when I drop them without even trying." I am definitely not criticizing anyone on this thread, or any bike riders in particular. I'm just observing that many of us

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

2016-04-19 Thread kielsun
I don't think my Sam would generally beat a carbon frame rb in a flat out race, but it's going to last for a really long time, and I love riding it. Lots of people have never seen anything like it, and I enjoy explaining the reasons why it's the right bike for me. If dude likes his bike and seem

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

2016-04-19 Thread Patrick Moore
I sold it to a randonneuse in Georgia, who loves it -- a Herse but not a "collectible" one. I should have kept that Motobecane! On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Eric Norris wrote: > I should have bought that Herse ... > > --Eric Norris > campyonly...@me.com > www.campyonly.com > campyonlyguy.b

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

2016-04-19 Thread Ron Mc
I'm lucky - have never seen one in my size On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote: > > I should have bought that Herse ... > > --Eric Norris > campyo...@me.com > www.campyonly.com > campyonlyguy.blogspot.com > > -- You received this message because you are subscribe

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

2016-04-19 Thread Eric Norris
I should have bought that Herse ... --Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com campyonlyguy.blogspot.com > On Apr 19, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Patrick Moore wrote: > > The problem is not merely the Fred's ignorant opinions about bicycles, it's > also his blatant rudeness, and IMO, a cheerful

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

2016-04-19 Thread Patrick Moore
The problem is not merely the Fred's ignorant opinions about bicycles, it's also his blatant rudeness, and IMO, a cheerful putdown is not at all out of place for such rudeness and crassness. "Cheerful." Isn't "admonish the foolish" a work of mercy? Once again, I have received only praise for my Ri

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

2016-04-19 Thread Ron Mc
Eric is right, all discourse is good and it's healthy to keep it positive. On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 10:37:21 AM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote: > > First of all, I’ve never heard anything but complimentary comments about > any of my Rivs. > > Second, I think that responding to criticism of my bi

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

2016-04-19 Thread Eric Norris
First of all, I’ve never heard anything but complimentary comments about any of my Rivs. Second, I think that responding to criticism of my bike by criticizing the other guy’s bike is not an appropriate response. After all, do you really care what this other guy thinks about your bike? --Eric

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

2016-04-19 Thread Geir Bentzen
I think we should remember the positive. I have received lots of 'cool bike' type of comments to my Hunqapillar. I also teach a safety course called Group Riding Skills. The Hunqapillar is in front of the room as the demonstration bike and I use it for the outside part to teach the riders avoidance

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

2016-04-19 Thread Tim Gavin
I don't go on club rides. They don't ride where or how I like to ride. My "club" rides gravel and b-roads. The "roadie attitude" is another reason I stay away from club rides. On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 8:20 AM, Preston Smith wrote: > I get that sorta thing ALL the time, and I get a kick out of