Re: [RBW] Re: 650b or 700 Bombadil frame question

2023-03-01 Thread JohnS
Another trick that I recently learned while installing the Paul mini-mottos and touring cantis on my Crust Lighting Bolt Cant (was going to install them on my QB but decided the LB-C would benefit from them more) is to loosen the return springs so that I didn't have to work against them. I did

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b or 700 Bombadil frame question

2023-03-01 Thread lconley
Uh-oh. I am going to have to remove the tires when I reassemble the Bombadil to adjust the brakes now! Laing On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:58:46 AM UTC-5 JohnS wrote: > I agree with Laing, I spend way too much time setting up canti brakes. I > usually remove the tires and even the fenders w

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b or 700 Bombadil frame question

2023-03-01 Thread JohnS
I agree with Laing, I spend way too much time setting up canti brakes. I usually remove the tires and even the fenders when installing them. This allows me to see how well aligned the brake pad is to the rim as Laing has noted. I prefer to use brake pad holders for this reason, set them up once

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b or 700 Bombadil frame question

2023-03-01 Thread lconley
That is a pretty good video - he uses the tool to show the 90 degree angle. He points out that lowering the straddle (making the straddle cable flatter) results in better braking. He even talks about getting the pads as close to the arm as possible with the Neo-Retro (wide profile) style cantil

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b or 700 Bombadil frame question

2023-03-01 Thread maxcr
I found this Path Less Pedaled video useful when I installed the Paul Touring Cantis on my Atlantis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDdWIq4cLLo Thanks everyone for your responses and particularly to Laing for that masterclass on how to set up cantis! Max who's still rethinking handlebar and d

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b or 700 Bombadil frame question

2023-03-01 Thread lconley
Remember that flat at the straddle and 90 deg at the arms fight each other - it is always a compromise. Laing On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 8:41:13 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote: > Laing: Thanks for this detailed and informing overview; I have read it > through and will read it again slowly,

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b or 700 Bombadil frame question

2023-02-28 Thread Patrick Moore
Laing: Thanks for this detailed and informing overview; I have read it through and will read it again slowly, but I think I get it: 90* to brake arm pivots + as flat as possible at straddle, as little toe-in as you can get by with to prevent squeal, and make sure that the pads meet the rim brake tr

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b or 700 Bombadil frame question

2023-02-28 Thread lconley
Geometry is all important with cantilevers. I will use Paul models for reference. Note that at a certain level, V-brakes are just optimized cantilevers, so much so that they have too much braking force that must be reduced at the levers. If maximizing braking force is the be-all, end all of bra

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b or 700 Bombadil frame question

2023-02-28 Thread Patrick Moore
1. Cantilevers too work better with tires no more than about 60 +/- mm wide; getting a 3" knobby between the canti bosses (unused; the Monocog 29er has disc brakes and is set up for both) is a hassle, even when they are soft at 13-15 psi. 2. While I can get decent (my definition may not be yours)

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b or 700 Bombadil frame question

2023-02-28 Thread esoterica etc
> On Feb 28, 2023, at 12:50, Jason Fuller wrote: > > I will say, after running a couple sets of Motolites and most recently > setting up and riding a pair of Avid V brakes ... the Avids work just as well > and are even easier to set up. They just lack fanciness. Jason, curious as to specif