Re: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-20 Thread Jon Grant
Garth wrote: There's some about the Aluminum cost differences in this http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/261/original_twocranksblogcomp.pdf if you hadn't seen it. The Alpina/Cospea do look just like the Mighty though, from these links. http://www.velo-orange.com/sualcr.html http://www.benscyc

Re: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-20 Thread David Hallerman
The links to Velo Orange and Ben's Cycle are for the newer (current) Alpina/Cospea. The original one, which is even sleeker -- I own both, so have seen more than pix -- can be seen here: http://www.jitensha.com/eng/cospeacrnk_e.html or here, the bottom one: http://taticycles.com/p/25 =

Re: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-17 Thread David Hallerman
And if the Cospea/Alpina in black works for you, as well as the Octalink bottom bracket, here's one for only $151: http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=75_128_135_772 I have the silver Cospea, and this black one. And they are exactly the same, except for being anodized (not

Re: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 16:03 -0700, Dustin Sharp wrote: > On that note, I don't really understand what the appeal of the Mighty Tour > might be. > > If you spec'ed a nicer version of the XD (with high polish quality rings), > you could sell it for $200 and still have a better deal than the Mighty

Re: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 16:08 -0700, William wrote: > Come on, dude! $300 is way better than $115 > > 300/115 = 2.60869 > > The Mighty Tour is therefor 2.60869 times better. When you finish a > ride, and a friend asks "How was your ride?" and you say "that was a > nice ride", you'll know (forever

Re: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-17 Thread Dustin Sharp
On that note, I don't really understand what the appeal of the Mighty Tour might be. If you spec'ed a nicer version of the XD (with high polish quality rings), you could sell it for $200 and still have a better deal than the Mighty Tour. The Q factor difference between the two cranks is insign

Re: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-15 Thread Bruce
yes, in fact I just noticed a thread in another forum where someone wanted a way to mount a rack to a (carbon stayed) bike that had no eyelets. Someone mentioned P-Clamps, while someone else noted he shouldn't try for more than 15 lbs of gear on it. Personally, I don;t think carbon stays were de

Re: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-13 Thread CycloFiend
on 3/13/10 10:18 AM, Steve Palincsar at palin...@his.com wrote: > On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 10:06 -0800, JoelMatthews wrote: >> At the '09 NAHBS in Indiana I thought I heard Mr. White say they are >> CNC machined. > > In that case, wouldn't this make the daVinci/White cranks less desirable > than the

Re: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-13 Thread Roy Yates
Based on this whole crank discussion, I've been wondering 1. Are there any cranks to be avoided? Nobody much complains about their cranks as long as the fit (length and Q factor) are ok. This is compared to brakes where you hear a lot of discussion/complaints about squealing, finicky setup, and

Re: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-13 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 10:06 -0800, JoelMatthews wrote: > At the '09 NAHBS in Indiana I thought I heard Mr. White say they are > CNC machined. In that case, wouldn't this make the daVinci/White cranks less desirable than the forged Sugino models? -- You received this message because you are sub

Re: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-13 Thread David Hallerman
As Michael Hechmer wrote: "I like the Cospea very much. It is gorgeous and works great." +23 to that. The Cospea is among the most beautiful cranks ever made, in my eyes. The only ones as attractive are the TA Zephyr Light and the first-and-second generation Shimano Dura-Ace (7400 or 7402), a

Re: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-13 Thread CycloFiend
on 3/13/10 8:29 AM, Steve Palincsar at palin...@his.com wrote: > Does "billet cranks" mean CNC rather than forged? Not specifically. "Billet" is the bar stock of metal. You could use the billet in a forging die setup (cold forged, hot forged or near-net forged would be three common options), or

Re: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-13 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 08:26 -0800, MichaelH wrote: > Again the Davinci Crank has a Q of 158, has interchangeable spiders, > weighs 400 grams, is a high polish silver, is made in America, is very > stiff, is $100 less than TA. Or one might consider the White VBC > crank, which has a Q of 137, and,

Re: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-13 Thread Michael Hechmer
I like the Cospea very much. It is gorgeous and works great. I also have a double / triple from DaVinci which is about the same price and is also a great crank. It is actually made by White Ind. and has the advantage of fitting on a pretty short BB, so you can save some money by keeping your curr

Re: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-12 Thread Dustin Sharp
I'm thinkin' we're kind of stocked up with 110/74 options these days. If you really want some good wide-range double gearing possibilities to open up, 95/58 would be a lot better. And it's something the market isn't offering much of. Hope that's what Riv is going to offer . . . Dustin > From:

Re: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-10 Thread Bruce
I picked up a Sugino GX 53/39 on Ebay that is now on my Rambouillet. It was orig equip on the B'stone RB-1 and has a very tight Q. I think I paid about $39.95 for it with not much more than usual usage scratches from shoes on it. Not as pretty as the V-O, or the upcoming RBW to be sure, but if y

Re: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-10 Thread Dustin Sharp
If it were as light as the new VO TA cranks with a Q above 160, I'd probably pay. But I'm predicting it'll be a really nice TA Zephyr-like or Ritchey Logic-like compact double with low Q. > From: rcnute > Reply-To: > Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:06:56 -0800 (PST) > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Subject