Re: [RBW] Jan Heine says I can ride my Bombadil forever!

2012-03-16 Thread Brian Hanson
Quality control, and abuse (even unintentional) are always part of the equation... Brian On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery < thill@gmail.com> wrote: > Tim: I have not heard anyone express concerns about steel "going soft" in > 6 years selling and servicing steel

Re: [RBW] Jan Heine says I can ride my Bombadil forever!

2012-03-16 Thread William
I believe the notion that flex is bad, that a light steel frame is flexy (noodly is an adjective I still hear quite often), are still reasonably common. Probably not among the internet cyclists, but among the general population, I think it's still pretty common. I'm not going to go out and do

Re: [RBW] Jan Heine says I can ride my Bombadil forever!

2012-03-16 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Tim: I have not heard anyone express concerns about steel "going soft" in 6 years selling and servicing steel bikes at HC. That said, one thing I have learned selling and servicing steel bikes, is that ANYTHING can break even under normal circumstances. Lots of well-regarded and well-cared-for

Re: [RBW] Jan Heine says I can ride my Bombadil forever!

2012-03-15 Thread Tim McNamara
On Mar 15, 2012, at 12:25 PM, William wrote: > > OK, that's not a direct quote. He didn't say that specifically, but in > today's blog post, Jan does debunk the notion that steel frames "go soft" > with use. They don't. You can't break in a steel bike and make it get more > flexible for comf

Re: [RBW] Jan Heine says I can ride my Bombadil forever!

2012-03-15 Thread Leslie
On Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:57:49 PM UTC-4, JimD wrote: > > Hah! > -JImD > On Mar 15, 2012, at 4:28 PM, newenglandbike wrote: > > Well, one might not be able to ride one's bombadil forever, but certainly > someone or other will be able to ride it forever. It's a bike for > multiple geologic

Re: [RBW] Jan Heine says I can ride my Bombadil forever!

2012-03-15 Thread jimD
Hah! -JImD On Mar 15, 2012, at 4:28 PM, newenglandbike wrote: > Well, one might not be able to ride one's bombadil forever, but certainly > someone or other will be able to ride it forever. It's a bike for multiple > geological ages, let alone lifetimes :) -- You received this message becaus

Re: [RBW] Jan Heine says I can ride my Bombadil forever!

2012-03-15 Thread William
I associate sagging leaf springs with plastic deformation and creep, not a reduction in Young's Modulus. Materials Science wasn't my major, though. The only studies I've seen that show Young's Modulus declining over time is at really high temperatures. On Thursday, March 15, 2012 12:22:37 P

Re: [RBW] Jan Heine says I can ride my Bombadil forever!

2012-03-15 Thread robert zeidler
If that were the case then steel leaf springs would always return to their original shape even after years of use. If Jan were able to to a before and after laser check of his 120,000 mile frame, he might be surprised. RGZ On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:25 PM, William wrote: > OK, that's not a dire