Re: clear powdercoat, was Re: [RBW] Re: Nov SoCal Riv Ride

2010-11-15 Thread erik jensen
rust never sleeps! i'm of the understanding that most any powdercoating will admit of some degree of rust over time, all things equal. i wouldn't worry about it. ~erik On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:19 PM, CycloFiend wrote: > on 11/14/10 6:08 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J at > thomas.alling...@skadden.

Re: clear powdercoat, was Re: [RBW] Re: Nov SoCal Riv Ride

2010-11-15 Thread CycloFiend
on 11/14/10 6:08 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J at thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: > At the New Jersey Shore, salt air started to do a number on the raw clearcoat > on my Bombadil in under a year. Riv was great about it, of course. There is a difference between "clear coat" and the "clear powder

Re: clear powdercoat, was Re: [RBW] Re: Nov SoCal Riv Ride

2010-11-15 Thread Ron MH
I have a clear powder coated Quickbeam and have no visible rust at all. The corrosion seen on many clear powder coated frames is, I believe, a function of the frame's preparation prior to the clear coating. The previous owner of my bike had the original orange paint removed, then took the frame hom

Re: clear powdercoat, was Re: [RBW] Re: Nov SoCal Riv Ride

2010-11-15 Thread rperks
I live a block from the beach and more than half of my rides are along the coast here in Ca. Every time I clean the roadeo I get paranoid and go look at the pictures I took when I recieved the frame ot figure out of the rust is spreading. It is not, just my paranioa. The other unfortunate aspect

Re: clear powdercoat, was Re: [RBW] Re: Nov SoCal Riv Ride

2010-11-14 Thread Jeremy Till
Maybe somebody with more of a metallurgical or chemical background could answer this question: Is there any substantial difference between clear powdercoat and pigmented powdercoat, in terms of its sealing properties? It could be question of perception: could it be that all powdercoated steel, or

Re: clear powdercoat, was Re: [RBW] Re: Nov SoCal Riv Ride

2010-11-14 Thread doug peterson
We probably over-react to rust, especially here in So Cal. Rust means deterioration but there are lots of ancient, rusty beach cruisers still in use. Granted, they are probably made from heavier gauge tubing but it's also likely to be a lower grade of steel than a Rivendell. My guess is a bit of

Re: clear powdercoat, was Re: [RBW] Re: Nov SoCal Riv Ride

2010-11-14 Thread Rob Harrison
Very nicely said James. I completely concur with the sentiment, though...Kahn's natural materials could weather gracefully without finish. With RCP you've got the CP on top of the raw steel. Maybe a CorTen frame? ;) Rob in Seattle, also an architect. :) On Nov 14, 2010, at 11:58 AM, james

RE: clear powdercoat, was Re: [RBW] Re: Nov SoCal Riv Ride

2010-11-14 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
, November 14, 2010 5:32 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: clear powdercoat, was Re: [RBW] Re: Nov SoCal Riv Ride On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:52, cyclotourist wrote: > James, clear powdercoat is quickly becoming one of my favorites.  They > are just great to look at.  I lo

Re: clear powdercoat, was Re: [RBW] Re: Nov SoCal Riv Ride

2010-11-14 Thread cyclotourist
That's the only downside I've heard of, and would probably be so slow in a dry climate to not worry about it. On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 2:31 PM, james black wrote: > On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:52, cyclotourist > wrote: > > James, clear powdercoat is quickly becoming one of my favorites. They > a

Re: clear powdercoat, was Re: [RBW] Re: Nov SoCal Riv Ride

2010-11-14 Thread james black
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:52, cyclotourist wrote: > James, clear powdercoat is quickly becoming one of my favorites.  They are > just great to look at.  I love the raw finish where you can see the > manufacture's markings, and builders file marks and even thumb prints!  The > verdict is still out

Re: clear powdercoat, was Re: [RBW] Re: Nov SoCal Riv Ride

2010-11-14 Thread cyclotourist
James, clear powdercoat is quickly becoming one of my favorites. They are just great to look at. I love the raw finish where you can see the manufacture's markings, and builders file marks and even thumb prints! The verdict is still out on whether they are susceptible to rust though. On Sun, No