Re: [RBW] WTB 60cm Rambouillet or Sam Hillborne

2022-02-14 Thread bob saunders
Still on the hunt and based on your comments, sounds like I should hunt for a 62cm Ram…thanks folks. This time, prefer a frame/fork/hs. On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 9:09:37 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote: > Hi Bob, > > Here's a 61 Sam Hillborne: > > > https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/walnu

Re: [RBW] WTB 60cm Rambouillet or Sam Hillborne

2021-06-25 Thread Matthew Williams
Hi Bob, Here's a 61 Sam Hillborne: https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/walnut-creek-rivendell-sam-hillbourne/7341501214.html On May 26, 2021, at 8:57 PM, bob saunders wrote: > Jimmy...both frames have level top tubes and my saddle height is 79cm. > > On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 8:20:20

Re: [RBW] WTB 60cm Rambouillet or Sam Hillborne

2021-05-27 Thread iamkeith
Joe's right, of course, but also be aware that there are generational differences in the Hilbournes, which were one of the first "expanded-sizing" models, with fewer size increments. The first run or two had top tubes that were a couple centimeters longer than subsequent runs of comparable siz

Re: [RBW] WTB 60cm Rambouillet or Sam Hillborne

2021-05-27 Thread Joe Bernard
The easiest way to size the two frames is by effective toptube. You'll drive yourself crazy trying to figure out how seattube sizing translates between Toyo and Taiwan Rivs. On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 2:46:15 PM UTC-7 robt.s...@gmail.com wrote: > Jimmy...both frames have level top tubes an

Re: [RBW] WTB 60cm Rambouillet or Sam Hillborne

2021-05-27 Thread Sky Coulter
I generally have my saddle at about 79cm on both a 60cm sam and a 62cm ram, both fit fine, although the handlebars come up a bit higher on the sam. Sky in new west > On May 27, 2021, at 2:46 PM, bob saunders wrote: > > Jimmy...both frames have level top tubes and my saddle height is 79cm. >

Re: [RBW] WTB 60cm Rambouillet or Sam Hillborne

2021-05-27 Thread bob saunders
Jimmy...both frames have level top tubes and my saddle height is 79cm. On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 8:20:20 PM UTC-4 Jimmy Warren wrote: > That's interesting, because the Rambouillet TT is also 60 cm. Whatever > your handlebar height is on the Poprad and JPWeigle, for the same stem, I'd > have

Re: [RBW] WTB 60cm Rambouillet or Sam Hillborne

2021-05-26 Thread James Warren
That's interesting, because the Rambouillet TT is also 60 cm. Whatever your handlebar height is on the Poprad and JPWeigle, for the same stem, I'd have to think it'll be a lot higher with a 64 cm Ram. In addition to it being a bigger frame, Rams bring the handlebar up compared to level top tubes by

Re: [RBW] WTB 60cm Rambouillet or Sam Hillborne

2021-05-26 Thread bob saunders
Wow...thanks for the help as it sounds like I need to do some homework. I have an offer of a 64cm Ram, but I am trying to equate the geometry to my other bikes...a 59cm Lemond Poprad and a 57.5 x 60 JPWeigle roadie. The Weigle’s top tube length is a better fit for me on longer rides. On Monday,

Re: [RBW] WTB 60cm Rambouillet or Sam Hillborne

2021-05-24 Thread James Warren
Ram: 2 degrees of TT upslope Sam: 6 degrees of TT upslope At that frame size, every one degree adds 1 cm of head tube height. So on paper, the handlebar height of a 60 cm Sam is about the same as a 64 cm Ram. The "new" sizing regime of Rivs with the 6 degrees of TT upslope was new around when the

Re: [RBW] WTB 60cm Rambouillet or Sam Hillborne

2021-05-24 Thread James Warren
Eric is right. I've owned both a 64 cm Ram and a 60 cm Sam and both fit me. On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 7:30 AM Eric Daume wrote: > I think those two frames would fit very differently. The Ram has > traditional road geo, so maybe a 64cm Ram would be equivalent to a 60cm > Sam. > > Eric > > On Friday

Re: [RBW] WTB 60cm Rambouillet or Sam Hillborne

2021-05-24 Thread Eric Daume
I think those two frames would fit very differently. The Ram has traditional road geo, so maybe a 64cm Ram would be equivalent to a 60cm Sam. Eric On Friday, May 21, 2021, bob saunders wrote: > Hello...I’m looking for a 60cm Rambouillet or Sam Hillborne...complete > bike or frame is ok. Located

[RBW] WTB 60cm Rambouillet or Sam Hillborne

2021-05-24 Thread bob saunders
Hello...I’m looking for a 60cm Rambouillet or Sam Hillborne...complete bike or frame is ok. Located in the PNW but shipping work too. Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving