Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2"

If you had told them about the upright bars, they would have loaded you on a lumbering city bike with 900-g tires and 3-speed SA at best. When you buy 10,000 widgets at a time, you can't afford for your customers to be individualists - what, they think they're special? You want your bike to b

Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2"

Well, I'm disappointed. Since Grant advertised some small bikes (like the Saluki), I was hoping she'd opt for that. A well-made small bike is supposed to be a treasure - G says most small bikes are designed "wacky." (Pretty sure I have that right, but if I've misquoted, show no hesitation to set

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Does that observation come under the rubric "snarky"? Patrick Moore, chortling in ABQ, NM. On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Eric Platt wrote: > And a Moonlander definitely has a different ride feel than a bike with > 42mm Grand Bois tires, at least from my test rides of both. > > -- You rece

Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2"

Bruce and Patrick. Probably won't sell right now. Winter blahs are in full force. Was also being snarky. Or reverse snob. Wider is always better to some. And a Moonlander definitely has a different ride feel than a bike with 42mm Grand Bois tires, at least from my test rides of both. As person

Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2"

On 02/02/2014 01:00 PM, James Warren wrote: If he told the her that a road triple (50x40x30 in the front) often has some trouble working well with brifters and she'd be better off with a compact double with its 34F x 28R low, then so far, not such bad advice. But that doesn't complete the story

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FAT BIIE!!! Patrick Moore, who prefers ~25 mm for his go fast and 60 mm for his dirt bike in ABQ, NM (and who counsels Eric to consider selling his Rivendells very very carefully. On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Eric Platt wrote: > Find this whole conversation interesting.

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Jeff, I actually wasn't calling you out. I picked your post to reply to because I liked its humor. As parallel discussions go, today on the bamboo fly rod board, the topic is You're a collector, but I'm a Fisherman, which is that brand of reverse snobbery - the comparison was actually how I p

Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2"

> > A lot of people are trying to apply reverse snobbery to this discussion > where it doesn't exist. > Guilty! Sorry for the confused message and misread of the thread. Please chalk it up to a case of one too many similar conversations in real life where a friend asks the crowded table for o

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Yes! On Feb 2, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Ron Mc wrote: > A lot of people are trying to apply reverse snobbery to this discussion where > it doesn't exist. Whether it's fly fishing or bicycling, there is a > marketing machine turning 10,000 Chinese widgets at a time, and they have to > sell them by

Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2"

I totally agree and have no criticism for the woman who bought the bike. I have a very specific criticism of bike sellers (large or small) who misinform people about triples, who insist that low front gears have to be compromised just because front indexing is seen as indispensable. The 100/74

Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2"

A lot of people are trying to apply reverse snobbery to this discussion where it doesn't exist. Whether it's fly fishing or bicycling, there is a marketing machine turning 10,000 Chinese widgets at a time, and they have to sell them by scientifically pandering to egos. Everyone is happy she i

Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2"

I know plenty of people astride NASA carbon and 23s who enjoy riding possibly more than I do. They wear dress loafers to the beach. I wear flip flops in the rain. We still enjoy a beer together. Any Bike > No Bike, Spice of Life, Ape Shall Not Kill Ape, etc. Jeff Hagedorn San Diego, CA USA > >

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I'm very happy someone found the means to buy a new bike that satisfies them. My hope is that they enjoy it! Live, let live and just ride. -Justin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop re

Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2"

It's very easy to walk into a bike shop and get "fitted" for a bike - they have a machine for that, and the guy in the shop is an expert and he has opinions. He's also plugged into the system and he sells it. Her purchase is the normal outcome of looking for a bike that fits. The good news is

Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2"

I rode 30 country miles yesterday on 32s at 55/60 psi and thought they were great. when I look at 28s these day I wonder who in the world can be comfy on something like that. I used to ride 23s and 25s all the time. You know, beofre I started to "just ride." I think your Rivs are too big for m

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Find this whole conversation interesting. While I consider any tire 38mm too skinny to ride, a number of friends are now at the point where anything under 50mm is too skinny. Guess I could say that tastes change and people adapt. And that line of thinking is starting to make more sense to me. H

Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2"

Granted, they're not the best for gravel, but 700x25 tires look pretty darn wide to most cyclists, who are used to seeing 700x20 or 23 tires. I have a set on the Motobecane that I purchased from Patrick in ABQ, and I've had people ask me if they are 30-something in width. Going from 700x20 to 7

Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2"

A wise man with the initials GP once wrote (well, actually, he's written it a few times): "Compliment other people's bikes, especially if they're new." --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @campyonlyguy On Feb 1, 2014,

Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2"

I saw the new rider and her new bike today. I said, "Wow, what a pretty bike!" On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > One more remark: last summer, an older gent brought in a Specialize Roubaix > Di2 in for a computer. It was rigged with cheap rattrap pedals and (on the > carbon f

Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2"

One more remark: last summer, an older gent brought in a Specialize Roubaix Di2 in for a computer. It was rigged with cheap rattrap pedals and (on the carbon fiber post) a cheap post-mounted rack with a cheap rack bag. I sneered and snickered only to learn that the rider "loved it" and, two, that i

Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2"

On 02/01/2014 10:29 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: I was at first going to say of this woman's purchase, "she was sold a bill of goods" and perhaps she was; our entire way of life consists largely in "being sold a bill of goods" by one interest group or another -- /their/ interest instead of /ours./

Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2"

I was at first going to say of this woman's purchase, "she was sold a bill of goods" and perhaps she was; our entire way of life consists largely in "being sold a bill of goods" by one interest group or another -- *their* interest instead of *ours.* (Rivendell, on the other hand, seems to me to rea

Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2"

It is true that it's hard to make triple shifting with indexing brifters work well in the long term. It is not that the shifter wears out (though they can break), it is more that the front derailler and the chain wear (as things do), and it is hard to accomodate this with indexing brifters. Fri

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+1 'Just Ride' -JimD On Feb 1, 2014, at 8:42 AM, blakcloud wrote: > Not quite. That bike is hovering around two grand, which is less than even a > Betty Foy or Sam Hillborne. I am happy that she bought a bike. > > On Saturday, February 1, 2014 11:32:37 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: > no doubt s

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Joyce, great words!! Jason sf,ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, s

Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2"

Though she would probably have more fun with a different bike, I hope she enjoys this one more than whatever she has been riding. Being only 5'2" she likely doesn't weigh very much so 25 or 28 tires should be more reasonable than they are for the average adult male. Particularly if she doesn't g

[RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2"

To me, getting people on bikes is the most important thing. Hopefully, like many of us on this list, she will experience her own bike journey that over time will lead her to the comfort, longevity and beauty of lugged steel. And personally I have been excited in reading this thread to learn the

Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2"

Masterful "The Princess Bride" pull, Deacon P. Anybody want a peanut? On Saturday, February 1, 2014 5:59:04 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > "Life is pain, Highness. Anyone who telly you differently is selling > something." > > With abandon, > Patrick > > On Saturday, February 1, 2014 12:19

Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2"

My daughter's Team Fuji with 1400g Hoops wheelset and modern 9-speed is cooler than her carbon... ...and every bit as fast On Saturday, February 1, 2014 7:59:04 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > "Life is

Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2"

"Life is pain, Highness. Anyone who telly you differently is selling something." With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, February 1, 2014 12:19:18 AM UTC-7, Dave wrote: > > I'm amazed treks tag line is "less pain, more gain". Less? Why settle > for less when it could be none? > > -- You received

Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2"

Trek bicycling, like life, entails dukkha. David G in San Diego > On Jan 31, 2014, at 11:19 PM, Dave wrote: > > I'm amazed treks tag line is "less pain, more gain". Less? Why settle for > less when it could be none? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goog

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I'm amazed treks tag line is "less pain, more gain". Less? Why settle for less when it could be none? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-

Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2"

That is exactly right. Whatever shop told her that about triples is an unhelpful shop. It is a really bad idea to compromise our gearing options just to have indexing in the front. That bad idea is widespread, but I still don't give a shop a pass when they help perpetuate it. On Jan 31, 2014

Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2"

She bought a Domane 4: "Domane 4 Series flies past any other carbon endurance race bike in its class, with IsoSpeed for race comfort, endurance geometry for stability, and Power Transfer Construction for speed." I'm not exactly sure what a carbon endurance race bike is supposed to be, but I guess

Re: [RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2"

Well bless her heart. But really, who wouldn't want every advantage elite athletes desire? http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/collections/womens/road/endurance_race/domane_5_series/ Cheers, David "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Anne Pauls

[RBW] Update: the woman who is 5'2"

She bought a carbon Trek Domane, because of course she did. Interestingly, the Domane is billed as a bike for rough rides and gravel. And it is spec'ed with, I am not making this up, 700 x 25 tires. Because when you're riding off road, you absolutely want to be riding 25mm tires. I believe the bik