[RBW] Re: standover height

2009-08-13 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Kenneth Stagg wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Jan Heine wrote: >> >> The answer is simple: Standover clearance never is a safety issue >> even for an only mildly experienced rider. > > Jan, > > Not so much for safety but the one place where I will insi

[RBW] Re: standover height

2009-08-13 Thread Kenneth Stagg
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Jan Heine wrote: > > The answer is simple: Standover clearance never is a safety issue > even for an only mildly experienced rider. Jan, Not so much for safety but the one place where I will insist on standover clearance is on a tandem. I don't feel at all comfo

[RBW] Re: standover height

2009-08-13 Thread Pierre
All in all, I prefer to have a small amount of standover clearance. Sometimes, on long rides in urban areas, I like to be able to get off the pedals and just stand over the bike with both feet on the ground when I know I'll be stopped for a while... such as at busy intersection with many different

[RBW] Re: standover height

2009-08-12 Thread RoadieRyan
that thank you RR On Aug 12, 7:02 am, James Dinneen wrote: > Well said. Could not agree more.    Jim D.  Massachusetts > > --- On Tue, 8/11/09, R Gonet wrote: > > From: R Gonet > Subject: [RBW] Re: standover height > To: "RBW Owners Bunch" > Date: Tuesday

[RBW] Re: standover height

2009-08-12 Thread James Dinneen
Well said. Could not agree more.    Jim D.  Massachusetts --- On Tue, 8/11/09, R Gonet wrote: From: R Gonet Subject: [RBW] Re: standover height To: "RBW Owners Bunch" Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 8:35 PM Grant, I notice that you've been posting to the RBW forum more fr

[RBW] Re: standover height

2009-08-11 Thread R Gonet
Grant, I notice that you've been posting to the RBW forum more frequently, and I thank you for it. Since there would not even be such a forum without your endeavor, and since we are all interested in the bikes and philosophy you promote, we are also interested in your opinions, whether we agree w

[RBW] Re: standover height

2009-08-11 Thread Doug Van Cleve
Assuming the bike isn't so huge that you are compromised in other areas of riding it, I don't really think it is a safety factor for anything but very rough off road riding. Me personally, I am okay with mild TT contact standing flat footed on level ground, but that is about as tall as I want my b

[RBW] Re: standover height

2009-08-11 Thread Jan Heine
> > Something that can kill you - and almost did kill a friend on one of > my bikes once - is toe overlap. The CPSC is silent on that, and most > experienced riders probably can deal with it in most situations. Will you describe what happened to your friend? > Two incidents, different riders,

[RBW] Re: standover height

2009-08-10 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Jan Heine wrote: > > > Something that can kill you - and almost did kill a friend on one of > my bikes once - is toe overlap. The CPSC is silent on that, and most > experienced riders probably can deal with it in most situations. Will you describe what happened t

[RBW] Re: standover height

2009-08-10 Thread gunnara
With a sloping top tube, like the Sam Hillborn's, all this is no problem. I know, many people don'like them, but a really high frame is also not that comfortable. And - a riserstem is even more ugly than a sloping top tube, at least in my eyes. Long distance riding on a good road is shurely no p

[RBW] Re: standover height

2009-08-10 Thread Grant Petersen
RIght, usually it's the left foot on a twelve-o'clock pedal, the bike leaning right with the top tube on the right hamstring, and the right foot on the ground. Howowowowowowever...the CPSC requires that the bike clear the crotch by an inch. "Crotch" to a modern male who wears his belt nine inches

[RBW] Re: standover height

2009-08-09 Thread JoelMatthews
> Personally, I worry very little about it. I seldom come off the bike in a > manner which plants my weight on both feet, evenly distributed while > straddling the bar. Honestly, I cannot remember doing so. If the bike is > set up correctly, it's much more comfortable (and feels much more balanc

[RBW] Re: standover height

2009-08-09 Thread Chris
What Jim said is pretty right on... I will add though that going to a standover height higher than you think you need may result in a longer top tube than you want... This happened to me when I bought my Bleriot. To each their own, of course but I know I wish I would have gone with the 55 instead

[RBW] Re: standover height

2009-08-09 Thread CycloFiend
on 8/9/09 1:07 PM, Richard at rsv...@netzero.net wrote: > After reading Michael's request for recommendations for his "right > frame size," and if I'm interpreting Rivendell's sizing chart > correctly (?), will Michael's pbh clearance above the top tube on a > 57cm Hilsen be about 7mm, with a 35mm