Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

Nice article! Thanks for posting it. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Hugh Smitham wrote: > Hi Shoji, > > I found it on the Classic Rendezvous lightweight vintage bicycles > group. I think he posted one of his original bikes there recently. > > Best, > > Hugh > Hugh > Sunland, Ca > > > On Fri,

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

Hi Shoji, I found it on the Classic Rendezvous lightweight vintage bicycles group. I think he posted one of his original bikes there recently. Best, Hugh Hugh Sunland, Ca On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Shoji Takahashi wrote: > Thanks for posting that, Hugh. Nice read. Now I'm gonna google f

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

Thanks for posting that, Hugh. Nice read. Now I'm gonna google for more pics. On Friday, April 26, 2013 3:36:16 AM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote: > > Thought I'd add this interesting article I came across about a frame and > rack builder from the 80's I found it interesting I hope you do as well. > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

Thought I'd add this interesting article I came across about a frame and rack builder from the 80's I found it interesting I hope you do as well.

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

Wow when I decide to create this post I had no idea! I want to thank all who have contributed and thank you for sharing all of your experiences with the Tubus, Nitto, Axiom and other racks. Still haven't had a chance to mount my new racks, but will soon enough. What I have learned so far is don

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

And the corollary to that will be "It doesn't work". On Monday, April 22, 2013 12:34:19 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > There is always only one answer to "I bent it and it broke": "Don't do > that." > > On Sunday, April 21, 2013 9:19:35 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: > >> A wise man once said "I can

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

There is always only one answer to "I bent it and it broke": "Don't do that." On Sunday, April 21, 2013 9:19:35 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: > A wise man once said "I can take a crap in a box and mark it guaranteed, > but at then end of the day all you have is a guaranteed piece of crap" > > > On

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

On Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:20:20 AM UTC-6, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: > > point (or get through spam filters). I have a hunch that a phone call to > Ortlieb/Tubus USA would have the desired result. I talk to those people all > the time. They're really helpful. > I've also had less th

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

A wise man once said "I can take a crap in a box and mark it guaranteed, but at then end of the day all you have is a guaranteed piece of crap" On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 11:52 PM, dougP wrote: > Don't put too much faith in warranties. A "limited warranty" is written > to protect the issuer (comp

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

Don't put too much faith in warranties. A "limited warranty" is written to protect the issuer (company, dealer, etc) by limiting liability to certain specific situations or issues. It is NOT intended to protect the customer or consumer of the product, but rather to limit the extent of claims.

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

With fully loaded touring the weight difference is insignificant. The wider Nitto has advantages when mounting bags or strapping other supplies on the rear rack between panniers. Nitto is also easier to mount Arkel at least panniers on. The Tubus protects the rear light better, allows for lowe

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

not that I know either of them but ... for your info blasdelf and Haulincolin are not the same person. He does own one of Colin's racks though. ~mike On Sunday, April 21, 2013 7:26:57 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: > > I am not an engineer (nor am I all that good at searching discussion > forums

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

Another data point. I did a long tour with Tubus Cosmo/Nova racks and Ortlieb panniers(Bikepacker Plus/Sportpacker Plus), and I had no problems. After I got home, I was riding my bike with the racks still on it, and I took a shortcut up on the sidewalk, As I was rounding a sharp corner I reac

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

About to hit the road right now and just realized I need to provide one detail to keep my posts in context - except for the Bruce Gordon that had his racks, my touring bikes have 126 spacing. Nitto width may make more sense on a 135 or tandem. -- You received this message because you are subs

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

I am not an engineer (nor am I all that good at searching discussion forums) but the guy who posts in the Velocipedesalon as blasdelf and makes custom racks under the Haulin Colin name: http://www.haulincolin.com/porteur.html wrote a very good discourse on why Tubus makes the best production to

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

Axioms are cheap, in part, because of country of origin, yes, but also because they're made and imported by the zillions. I get the impression that Nitto makes racks in batches of tens, or a couple hundred, at most. And then you're paying tons extra for a lopsided currency exchange that has noth

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

I'll add a data point here, being an owner of Tubus, Nitto, Velo-Orange and Racktime (Tubus' low-end) racks. I have a broken Tubus Fly. It's a black chrome-moly version and it broke at the weld. Yes, I was trying to bend it to fit it to a wider dropout but still, it wasn't a tandem 145mm. It cr

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

Both are good. Both will hold up to normal use indefinitely. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. T

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

My statement was my subjective assessment strictly based on my personal use of both manufacturers racks. I've manipulated Nitto racks a number of times to get the final fit perfect. No signs of damage or visible strain. I tried that on a Tubus Vega and it broke adjacent to a weld. In hand, the

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Mike Schiller wrote: > The Nitto racks are stronger Again and again, I am not trying to be annoying. Can you give the particulars of the evidence that show that Nitto racks are stronger than Tubus racks? -- You received this message because you are subscribed t

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Matthew J wrote: > I've had and used both. Obviously it is my opinion, although I would > point out an opinion shared by others in the on line and bike shop world. You are saying that you and others -- I assume more than one or two -- in the bike business belie

[RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

funny, my opinion is the exact opposite of yours Matthew. The Nitto racks are stronger (but heavier) and the welding/finish is much cleaner from my two samples of Tubus racks. For me though, I like the perfect fit of custom built racks and find the expense worth it. But both Nitto and Tubus a

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

I've had and used both. Obviously it is my opinion, although I would point out an opinion shared by others in the on line and bike shop world. Neither my Tubus nor Nitto have broken on me. I wound up giving the Nitto away as despite its better looks, I preferred the more useful design of the

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

How do we know this to be true? I'm not being snarky, I want to know, as one who loves Tubuses and has used many but who would seriously consider Nittos for a "pretty bike" if he had the money and found the right design. BTW: I read both that Tubus offers a 10 year warranty and that Tubus offers a

[RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

MHO the tubus racks don't seem as quality built as the Nitto racks but the price was within my range and I liked the idea of a rear light mount on the Cosmo. The finish on Tubus racks is not as lustrous as on Nitto. Tubus are > otherwise the superior product. They fit better, are lighter per

[RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

Hugh: You can't go wrong with Tubus, Nitto or Axiom. I've seen all of them on tours & touring nerds love to talk about racks and panniers. Jim (from St Paul, was on the Sulphur Mtn ride) has a Cosmo on his Atlantis & likes it a lot. You can't have too many places to hook bungees when you are

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

I ordered from Tubus USA last week. They gave me an option for silver in the Logo model. That distributor orders from Germany frequently, so it seems any Tubus product should be available in the US. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

On Fri, 2013-04-19 at 14:42 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Interesting: I have always used the black powdercoated chomoly > versions: these are fillet brazed, with brazing that looks much neater > than the blobby welds on the stainless steel ones. The silver powdercoated ones are even nicer. Shame

RE: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

+1. Love them. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 4:33 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pict

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

Interesting: I have always used the black powdercoated chomoly versions: these are fillet brazed, with brazing that looks much neater than the blobby welds on the stainless steel ones. Agree with Jim: Tubus + Ortlieb = great value:dollar ratio. I have Packer Pluses and Packer Sports. FWIW, and Se

[RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

In use, the Tubus racks are amazingly well designed, particularly if you use them with Ortlieb panniers. On Friday, April 19, 2013 3:17:34 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote: > > Howdy Riv folk, > > I just purchased two Tubus racks for an upcoming tour in June. Thought I'd > post a few pictures of them as