[RBW] Re: The Mysteries of Bike Assembly

2013-12-16 Thread Kieran J
Hey Michael, How are you liking the 620 as a conversion? I'm wondering about doing a similar route with a 1983 620, and I'd be interested to hear your impressions, comparing 700c (or 27" I guess) to 650b on the same frame. Kieran On Friday, October 11, 2013 10:59:37 AM UTC-4, Michael Hechm

Re: [RBW] Re: The Mysteries of Bike Assembly

2013-10-15 Thread Tim Gavin
The newest Campy shift cables are 4.1mm, down from 4.5mm "normal" shift cables and 5.0mm brake cables. Segue: I recently rehabbed a 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10 as a commuter. It came with a rear chainstay U-brake and front cantilevers (Deore XT M730). The original brake cables were heavier gaug

Re: [RBW] Re: The Mysteries of Bike Assembly

2013-10-15 Thread Steven Frederick
FWIW, SRAM makes (or made) shift cables that were a teeny bit thinner than typical. I think they were meant for grip shifters but I should imagine they'd work with other types too... Steve On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 8:59 AM, Bobish wrote: > True, perhaps. But now standards have already been esta

[RBW] Re: The Mysteries of Bike Assembly

2013-10-13 Thread Ron Mc
Thicker cables are more apt to fail at the shifter drum than thinner cables. The most damaging things that happen to cables are always the clamp screws. On Saturday, October 12, 2013 3:54:24 PM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote: > > Good thought only this bike, and the bike where the derailler cab

[RBW] Re: The Mysteries of Bike Assembly

2013-10-12 Thread Michael Hechmer
Good thought only this bike, and the bike where the derailler cable failed were both DT shifters, hence no cable housing at all. The tightest bend is clearly around the DT shifter itself. All other bends are much less than that. On Saturday, October 12, 2013 8:52:12 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: >

Re: [RBW] Re: The Mysteries of Bike Assembly

2013-10-12 Thread Nick Worthington
For what it's worth, I'm working on an early '70s all-Campy bike, and all the cables are the same thickness. (brake size) Different cable heads though. Don't know if it would matter, but I went ahead and sprung for NOS derailleur cables, Just in case. On the other hand, I have English and F

Re: [RBW] Re: The Mysteries of Bike Assembly

2013-10-12 Thread WETH
In the middle of my own assembly project, I found your observations quite valid. The Trek looks great. Safe travels and enjoy the riding in California. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and sto

Re: [RBW] Re: The Mysteries of Bike Assembly

2013-10-12 Thread Bobish
True, perhaps. But now standards have already been established. Changing at this point = Giant Pita. • Perry On Oct 12, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Michael Hechmer wrote: > No doubt derailler cable needs to be more flexible, but I'm betting we have > reached a point in material science where we can ma

[RBW] Re: The Mysteries of Bike Assembly

2013-10-12 Thread Ron Mc
making cable housings too short leading to excessively tight bends is the most common demise of cables. My buddy had a short derailleur cable that shifted on him from frame flex under a climbing load (exactly where you don't need it) Lengthening the cable housing solved the problem. On Satur

[RBW] Re: The Mysteries of Bike Assembly

2013-10-12 Thread Michael Hechmer
No doubt derailler cable needs to be more flexible, but I'm betting we have reached a point in material science where we can make a strong & flexible cable. Michael On Saturday, October 12, 2013 4:13:04 AM UTC-4, Perry wrote: > > Some excellent points. Regarding the cable splitters... > > > I

[RBW] Re: The Mysteries of Bike Assembly

2013-10-11 Thread hsmitham
Michael, Very insightful regarding all those points especially the funnel shaped entry point and cable size. I suspect some would say the derailleur cables needs to be a smaller diameter so the cable flexes a bit more especially at the rear with all the curves. I'm just guessing here as I am no

[RBW] Re: The Mysteries of Bike Assembly

2013-10-11 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Michael, Congrats on your new build! I'm quite fond of the older Trek's myself and converted what I believe to be a 1982 715. I'd considered the Bilenkey S&S, re-paint route as well but I was able to get side pull's that reach the 650B rims. My 42mm EL Hetre's just barely fit, getting the st