[RBW] Re: Shellac Question

2013-02-13 Thread Ron Mc
I knew that's true for lacquer - I didn't realize that was the case for shellac as well. Since I have good spar varnish around (and mastic varnish, too - bamboo rod stuff) I varnished both my tape wraps and

[RBW] Re: Shellac Question

2013-02-13 Thread Mike B
Ron I think only varnishes with oil dry via oxidation. I think shellac can be reconstituted with alcohol because it dries by evaporation. As Tim said you can add alcohol to thin it out especially if it starts thickening up on you but there is definitely a shelf life where it will no lo

[RBW] Re: Shellac Question

2013-02-11 Thread Mike B
Hey Peter As long as it has been properly sealed and out of the sunlight I think you are fine. I frequently use shellac that I mix myself that is past 4 or 5 months. I keep it in an amber bottle for longer storage times. After a year or so I toss it out, but for bar tape all you ha

[RBW] Re: Shellac Question

2013-02-11 Thread Ron Mc
chiffarobe is Arcadian for rando bag On Sunday, February 10, 2013 10:02:19 PM UTC-6, rob markwardt wrote: > > Today I learnin the word chiffarobe. Sorry, no idea about your > shellac. > > On Feb 10, 7:29 pm, Peter M wrote: > > Does it really go bad after a while? I am anxiously anticipating t

[RBW] Re: Shellac Question

2013-02-11 Thread Ron Mc
shellac/varnish/mastic - it oxidizes in the jar, which is the curing process. If you want to keep it fresh (very important if you have expensive mastic varnish, which is about $15/oz,. or even quality spar varnish) use this product - Bloxygen - spray it under the bottle cap or can lid before

Re: [RBW] Re: Shellac Question

2013-02-11 Thread Tim McNamara
The thickening is due to the evaporation of the solvent, denatured alcohol usually being used for shellac. Adding a bit to thin it to the desired consistency is fine, it should work every bit as well as when the can was new. On Feb 11, 2013, at 7:11 AM, Pondero wrote: > I have a can of ambe

[RBW] Re: Shellac Question

2013-02-11 Thread Pondero
I have a can of amber shellac that is much older than 4-5 months. The last couple of times used, it seemed as if it had thickened. Since I had remembered someone say something about thinning it with alcohol, I mixed a small amount of shellac and alcohol in a separate container. The consisten

Re: [RBW] Re: Shellac Question

2013-02-10 Thread Peter Morgano
To Kill A Mockingbird is still one of my favorites. My daughter loved the movie, who wouldnt like Gregory Peck? On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:02 PM, rob markwardt wrote: > Today I learnin the word chiffarobe. Sorry, no idea about your > shellac. > > On Feb 10, 7:29 pm, Peter M wrote: > > Does it r

[RBW] Re: Shellac Question

2013-02-10 Thread rob markwardt
Today I learnin the word chiffarobe. Sorry, no idea about your shellac. On Feb 10, 7:29 pm, Peter M wrote: > Does it really go bad after a while? I am anxiously anticipating the > arrival of the Bombadil in a few days but realized my shellac is about > 4-5 months old. I made it myself out of but

Re: [RBW] Re: Shellac Question

2013-02-10 Thread Peter Morgano
Haha, the web was all about french polishes and how you had to use fresh shellac or else it wouldnt be french enough or something like that. This button lac was the real deal, had to strain out the dead bugs and wax and all, hate to waste it. On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Manuel Acosta < manue

[RBW] Re: Shellac Question

2013-02-10 Thread Manuel Acosta
> > Secreted by the female lac bug > juice > goes bad? I don't see how bad bug juice can hurt anything. Go for it. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this grou

Re: [RBW] Re: Shellac Question

2011-11-12 Thread Lyle Bogart
Beautiful! And a fine build overall, too! lyle On 12 November 2011 21:25, Minh wrote: > grr, with link http://flic.kr/p/aEbdkY > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://grou

[RBW] Re: Shellac Question

2011-11-12 Thread Minh
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[RBW] Re: Shellac Question

2011-11-12 Thread Minh
Hi guys, here's a picture of the grips on the bike, look great! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/G4IrVOcu11kJ. To post to this group,

Re: [RBW] Re: Shellac Question

2011-11-08 Thread Allan in Portland
Well, I'm always one to defer to others' first-hand experience. I've always read the warning about steel wool, but seldom use it myself. Regards, -Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web vis

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2011-11-08 Thread Smitty-A-Go-Go
I've tried fixing dark spots by brushing on denatured alcohol... it's a can of worms I would recommend NOT opening. I've tried it twice. First time I ended up giving the whole thing (cork grips) a bath in denatured alcohol and starting over with thin coats. There was a little marbling effect lef

Re: [RBW] Re: Shellac Question

2011-11-08 Thread Lyle Bogart
I haven't noticed rusting yet in either cabinet-making or boatbuilding. I usually only wipe with a dry cloth or, if I've one close to hand, a tack cloth. Perhaps I've been lucky! lyle On 8 November 2011 11:41, Allan in Portland wrote: > One thing about steel wool is you need to a very thorough

[RBW] Re: Shellac Question

2011-11-08 Thread Allan in Portland
One thing about steel wool is you need to a very thorough clean-up with tack cloth and mineral spirits. Otherwise the wool dust will rust. -Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit htt

Re: [RBW] Re: Shellac Question

2011-11-08 Thread Lyle Bogart
Don't forget pics of the final build :) On 8 November 2011 11:11, Minh wrote: > > Thanks fellas! I was not sure how forgiving the shellac would be, but > some heavy sanding to even it out and a thin top-coat has them feeling > much better in the hand. It's still a little thick, but i can live

[RBW] Re: Shellac Question

2011-11-08 Thread Minh
Thanks fellas! I was not sure how forgiving the shellac would be, but some heavy sanding to even it out and a thin top-coat has them feeling much better in the hand. It's still a little thick, but i can live with it. I'm going to get the bike built up before i decide if i'll go with the matte f

[RBW] Re: Shellac Question

2011-11-07 Thread Allan in Portland
I've had similar problems with Zisser's and wood. Alcohol will always re-soften shellac. Supposedly that's one of the advantages, you can always fix it. The problem I run into is keeping the pigmentation consistent while I'm "fixing" it. On the flip side, it means you can always completely start