I agree. The Patagonia retail employee's day was probably easier by giving
that answer but it's not what the folks in Ventura would say or do. The
reputation of a brand is in the hands of their dealers and try as they will
to uphold their integrity, it ends up being the decision or utterance of
ase return the original
message to me at the address indicated above.
From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com on
behalf of Ian Buckley
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2025 4:26 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Share your alternative rain jacket su
Thanks for all of the input everyone! I hadn't heard of the alternative
brands suggested and I'll check them out.
At this point, I feel like this thread can transition into a general
discussion of alternative rain gear, regardless of my original post.
On Sunday, 23 February 2025 at 06:14:01 UTC-
Thanks for the explanation of the Patagonia jacket. I agree with Conway,
the jacket should be replaced by Patagonia. I'd try the
mother-mail-order-ship in Reno or wherever it is these days.
Delamination/deterioration of the lining is not a wear or care issue.
Nothing beats a synthetic rain jac
I used to worked for Patagonia for 9 years. They should be replacing that
jacket, not offering a discount on a new one. Their policy is repair,
replace, or refund in no particular order. Riding in the rain your either
going to get wet from perspiration or precipitation, you choose.
On Friday
I have the Endurance separates, which is to say the shell and fleece. It’s what I bring bikepacking. I have long arms/torso and have no complaints about the fit, although it’s not cut like dedicated cycling gear. For daily commuting/utility I have a Shower’s Pass jacket, which is no help to the OP
Jay, this is interesting. I own a Hilltrek garment. It's the double layer
Ventile jacket Greenspot. I bought it with the intention of using it for my
"everything" jacket. However, it is far too heavy to use on the bike. It
does keep water out, but when saturated it becomes stiff as a board and
I hardly need technical waterproof clothing when we get a citywide average
(more in east, less in west) of 9” per year, but I’ve been caught in winter
SW down pours wearing a very thin Specialized cycling windbreaker (easily
wads up small enough to fit into a jersey pocket) over 1 or 2 wool layers
A few years ago I bought a Hilltrek Kintail shirt featuring their “extra lightweight” Ventile, thinking that it would be good for 3-season use. Unfortunately I still find the fabric to be too heavy and clammy for my tastes. When I hiked the West Highland Way a few years ago I found that the locals
I just ordered a Hilltre Greenspot ventile jacket. It'll take 6-8 weeks
before I get it, but I'm looking forward to a jacket that has a long
lifespan and isn't made of plastic. It'll probably get here too late to see
how well it works with the wet Seattle winter, but I'm optimistic.
Eamon
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