With an electric motor! 🤣
On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 5:38:27 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
> Joe, we now all know you can only ride singletrack on a full suspension
> bike with a dropper post nowadays...everything else is underbiking. Ha, I
> write in jest. The Rivendell timeline is neat to see.
Joe, we now all know you can only ride singletrack on a full suspension
bike with a dropper post nowadays...everything else is underbiking. Ha, I
write in jest. The Rivendell timeline is neat to see. Most of the names on
the list are fantastic names for bikes!
On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 6:
Then there's the pre-Rivendell timeline which has an article in a
Bridgestone catalogue by Chris Kostman about "underbiking"..he was riding
an RB-1 with skinny slicks on singletrack. Which Grant design is a
Hillibike? All of them! 😂
On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 2:44:53 PM UTC-8 Slin wrote:
Yeah, I totally agree that the bikes have been categorized different ways
over the years. I quickly threw the spreadsheet together and thought I was
using the categories on the current rivbike.com - 'Roadish' , 'Touring &
Trailish', and 'Comboish - Country Bikes'. The names are different, but
Olivier Chetelat’s photos of the proto-Appaloosa are located here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/olipop/8418423327/in/photostream/
On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 2:47:21 PM UTC-8 Chris L wrote:
> The Mystery Bike/Appaloosa happened shortly after I discovered RBW, so
> 2012'ish sounds about ri
Jason, this is a really exciting idea! I appreciate your research,
compiling and the handwriting chart from scratch.
And Slin, it's amazing that you created the spreadsheet so detailed! I
can't wait to see it is updated.
Masa
2022年12月12日月曜日 20:02:04 UTC+9 brendonoid:
> Oh, this is exciting!
> I
Oh, this is exciting!
I think Grant has/had the all-rounder category between the hillibikes and
the country bikes. So the Atlantis/Appaloosa was an all-rounder whilst the
Sam/Homer was a country bike.
Unfortunately the nomenclature has been somewhat fluid along with the
concepts of what certain
I started playing around with different ways to visualize it. Here's one
using a spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gu7_PQVDZn0iQtx81oHQ_X3mhDMcngiJK1AVxHleQ_Q/edit?usp=sharing
[image: Screenshot from 2022-12-11 21-05-52.png]
On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 7:39:50 PM UTC-8 Jas
Slin, that's a fun idea to do it as a family tree kind of infographic! I
haven't gotten around to polishing this into a digital form like I meant
to, but with the holiday break coming up I might take the opportunity to
then, and am really liking this idea of doing it as a branched structure
based
@Jason - this is really cool! I did a search and came across this because I
was thinking about doing something very similar but also including when the
models were discontinued and any lineage type relationships:
Atlantis <-> Appaloosa
Glorius/Wilbury -> Betty Foy/Yves Gomez -> Cheviot -> Plat
Marty - those photoshops are amazing.
Tom - it's having the same effect on me; it's a problem. I am now in search
of a Rosco step thru in the 54/55 size.
On Friday, 3 December 2021 at 13:17:21 UTC-8 Tom Goodmann wrote:
> This thread is the best reading I've done this week, although it makes m
This thread is the best reading I've done this week, although it makes me
want *all-the-Rivs*!
Tom (in Miami, where it's peak riding season)
On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 9:37:13 PM UTC-5 Chris L wrote:
> I'll have to check out that thread.
>
> As a gray/orange Hunqapillar owner, I much pre
I'll have to check out that thread.
As a gray/orange Hunqapillar owner, I much prefer the darker shade of
orange shown in your photo here.
On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 6:25:39 AM UTC-6 Marty Gierke,
Stewartstown PA wrote:
> To satisify my own itch, I did a series of photoshop mockups of
Tentacles! I remember them being called that because I came up with it.
Then Grant popped in here and said "they're tentacular!" 😁
Joe Bernard
On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 8:13:30 AM UTC-8 lconley wrote:
> I bought what I think is a Mystery Bike from Rivendell, it hung around as
> a shop
Oh - that was in 2010 of course.
On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 7:25:39 AM UTC-5 Marty Gierke,
Stewartstown PA wrote:
> To satisify my own itch, I did a series of photoshop mockups of the first
> diagatube Hunqapillars beginning Monday, April 5th at 7:59am.
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Michael - they switched from the dual TT style to the diaga-tube in 2010 on
Bombadils :) So the diaga is the newer version
On Tuesday, 30 November 2021 at 20:10:00 UTC-8 Michael Baquerizo wrote:
> any info regarding these two bombadils? asking because they're the same,
> but different. and on
any info regarding these two bombadils? asking because they're the same,
but different. and one is very close to that appa proto posted above.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbiketouringnews.com%2Fadvocacy-awareness%2Ffat-tire-pioneers%2F&psig=AOvVaw25kPjnVkOVG8DFUipsAyrC&ust=163
Oh wow, that's the shortest rear end and smallest size proto-Appa that I've
seen! At this rate, might just have to buy riv-wiki.com (it's
available!). Thanks for all the contributions.
On Tuesday, 30 November 2021 at 14:47:21 UTC-8 Chris L wrote:
> The Mystery Bike/Appaloosa happened shortly
The Mystery Bike/Appaloosa happened shortly after I discovered RBW, so
2012'ish sounds about right.
My memory is that Grant put out feelers for 10 people to buy a new bike,
completely sight unseen with no input (I don't remember if they were
allowed to choose color) into the bike. I don't re
A bit of clarification. The original three models, Road, All-Rounder, and
Mountain, were intended to be of standard dimensions as drawn by Grant.
They were built to-order, though, and they very quickly went from
semi-custom to full custom as customers requested their own unique changes.
It was
I agree about the charming hand-made artifact-ness of the paper and ink
version. It’s super clear and well designed. There’s lots of space to the
sides for builder names or notes.
Philip
Sonoma County, Calif
On Saturday, November 27, 2021 at 8:00:47 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:
> I love the drawi
Love this Rivendell history, thanks so much for putting this together and
sharing!
On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 9:26:00 AM UTC-5 Steven Sweedler wrote:
> Ryan, I thought Riv was building customs from the begining. I had a 96
> Road that was designed for 700 x 28 and had cantilever brakes The
Ryan, I thought Riv was building customs from the begining. I had a 96 Road
that was designed for 700 x 28 and had cantilever brakes The original
owner,who I bought it from, spoke of it as a custom build Steve
On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 8:54 AM Ryan wrote:
> Customs...I feel Riv started mixing tube
Customs...I feel Riv started mixing tubesets(Reynolds/Vitus/Columbus) and
tweaking geometry around 1998 when they were moving away from Waterford and
working with Match. I think customs started with Joe Starck in 1999 and
they added Curt Goodrich around 2000 or thereabouts. My 2000 Road deliver
I love the drawing. Please keep it in the digital version. I connect
better w/handwritten, hand drawn. More comprehensible to me.
On Saturday, November 27, 2021 at 7:19:52 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
> Yeah good point about the Soma, if I'm going to mention Heron by the same
> logic that fr
Yeah good point about the Soma, if I'm going to mention Heron by the same
logic that frame should be included. I debated that one also.
Redwood is a neat one, being a different name for the tallest sizes! I
assume the distinction is some design difference (tubing?) to suit the
extra big 65/68 size
I am glad to see you got the ‘Redwood’ frame in there!
Cheers,
Karl
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 27, 2021, at 3:29 AM, Fullylugged wrote:
>
> Nice Jason, and needed. The Road was followed quickly by the Road Standard,
> I think by '96.
>
>> On Saturday, November 27, 2021 at 1:45:44 AM UTC-6
I would also include the San Marcos in the timeline! Made by Soma but
designed by Rivendell, it was in production from 2011 to about 2015.
Similar to the way the Bleriot was the "cheaper" MIT version of the Saluki,
I believe the San Marcos was the budget alternative to the A. Homer Hilsen.
I have a
These are great tweaks, I am updating my draft paper copy as we go and all
this will be included in the digital version - thanks Joe, Bruce, Keith,
and Joel! I'll be sure to credit the RBWOB in the footnotes of this thing.
I'll try to think of a way to graphically represent semi-custom, protot
Disclaimer added: I'm speaking of strictly production models. The line
between "production" and "custom" was always a little fuzzy in the early
Waterford days; and even now my "custom Rivendell" hews tightly to Grant's
ideas of what a frame should be. For my purposes in the discussion a custom
Very nice Jason, I had 2 Roads, one in ‘97 (a 53cm)the other in ‘2000 (a
54cm which was probablt right) . An AR in ‘99 or so and a Custom in ‘2002
or so (a 56cm that Grant measured me for). Also a Saluki (56cm but too bid)
then 2 Bleriots, (55cm’s) one was going to live in Brasil. I bought a
My understanding of the Mystery bike so far (all lifted from Tom
Allingham's Flickr): Produced in 2012 (?) as an Appaloosa exploration,
with the swoopy mid-stays and fabricated by Nobilette. Any idea how many
were produced, and whether I got my production year right? And am I
missing gen 1 Ap
Cheers for the feedback! Yeah, it was pretty wild to go from about a 3/10
to a 6/10 overnight on my Rivendell knowledge (still a good ways to go
before I'm any sort of expert). Of course, my "knowledge" is limited to
what I've found either in the reader or on the website for the most part,
and
Good effort. I bet that was fun, digesting so much at once. My comment is
that I don't think I'd discount the original Appaloosa or "mystery bike,"
which is different from the current Appaloosa. I know it was 'sort of' a
prototype, but they were produced for specific, paying customers - exact
Nice Jason, and needed. The Road was followed quickly by the Road
Standard, I think by '96.
On Saturday, November 27, 2021 at 1:45:44 AM UTC-6 Jason Fuller wrote:
> I spent the afternoon and evening trawling the full set of Riv Readers, as
> well as old copies of the Rivendell website via arch
Nice work Jason.
On Friday, November 26, 2021 at 11:45:44 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
> I spent the afternoon and evening trawling the full set of Riv Readers, as
> well as old copies of the Rivendell website via archive.org (it was
> veloworks.com/rivendell first, then it was rivendellbicycles
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