Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

Yes .. I was referring to the fender mods of the protos :) I for one would simply love to see some longer wheelbased frames in general, ones that can take FD's and all the braze-ons. Chainstays well into the 50's. The minor differences in todays chainstays are really well.. minor. Hopef

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

The other day I took the Appaloosa for a short spin around the RBW neighborhood. That bike didn't so much ride as *glide.* So smooth and comfortable! Will, who received me upon my return, said the bike makes you feel like a kid: "When you ride it you can't help but smile." He's right. -- You r

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

Thanks. I did not see that. Does not appear to be the case with the Riv bike in the Flickr and Instagram, so maybe Riv addressed it. Seems Pudge made the most of it in any event. On Friday, January 11, 2013 12:58:29 PM UTC-6, Colin B. wrote: > I could have missed something, but I assumed Gar

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

I could have missed something, but I assumed Garth was referencing the fact that at least some of the Mystery Bikes didn't have drilled chainstay bridges. Ex. from Tom Allingham: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8366365230/in/photostream I'd expect the production models will be drilled.

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

Is something missing from the conversation? At least from the Flickr photo Appaloosa fenders appear to attach the same as fenders on any other Riv. Or are you making a point on GP's long stated preference for SKS plastic fenders as opposed to metal? On Thursday, January 10, 2013 5:19:56 PM UTC

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

> I road that thing around the parking lot and it's unique in the way it > feels. Nothing MTN about it at all, smaller tubes, not very similar to the > beefy Bomba IMO. It has the diga-tube, but if you saw them side by > side.Not similar to any of the other Riv bikes. -- You received th

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

I kinda giggle with this frame a high-ish end frame made so minimalist you gotta do mods to it just to add fenders lol. > 99 bottles of beer on the wall take one down and pass it around > ;) ;) > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Go

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

You've obviously never been to Chicago. Which has only one hill. (And it isnt' even in Chicago.) On Monday, December 31, 2012 1:29:14 PM UTC-5, Brewster Fong wrote: > > > > On Monday, December 31, 2012 10:10:52 AM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote: >> >> On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Brewster Fong wrote:

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http://Instagram.com/rivbike They have web profiles now! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/BHxfgFBG67wJ. To post to this group, send

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> > Whoa!?!?! > At first glance when the instagram came up I saw "60% off all bikes". Then I saw it was another company, not Riv. Wouldn't that be cool if Riv had a 60% off sale for 10 minutes on any given day, and you happened to hit it just right? -- You received this message because you a

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that green Hunqa on instagram with the drop bars is "to die for". ~mike On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 12:06:47 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: > > Thanks for the heads up, Scot. This is them: > http://in.5thvillage.com/u/rivbike/ > > > On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Scot Brooks > > wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

Keven calls them "long bikes". I like it. On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 12:06:47 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: > Thanks for the heads up, Scot. This is them: > http://in.5thvillage.com/u/rivbike/ > > > On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Scot Brooks > > wrote: > >> If you guys follow @rivbik

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

Thanks for the heads up, Scot. This is them: http://in.5thvillage.com/u/rivbike/ On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Scot Brooks wrote: > If you guys follow @rivbike on Instagram, you can check out Keven's > almost-built Appaloosa along with lots of other great photos. Their account > is pretty ne

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

If you guys follow @rivbike on Instagram, you can check out Keven's almost-built Appaloosa along with lots of other great photos. Their account is pretty new but they update with a fair amount of regularity. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Own

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

The longer wheelbase for a touring machine would be handy but the absence of a front deraileur would not. When you are old,fat and carrying additional baggage a 22x32x44 with a wide cassette is a necessityeven if you are not doing loaded touring. The area I live is not Kansas and while the

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

Ha! Took me a moment with your custom -- thanks for the laugh. Happy new year everyone! On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 11:10 PM, iamkeith wrote: > I think that maybe I'M the target market! Now that I know what the > mystery bike is all about, it's giving me serious pause. I just > finished paying f

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

Cruiser bikes with long reach back handlebars are all over the place in LA and New England beach communities. As for no front derailer, check out, among others, JeffJones mountain bike site. 1by set ups are very common among off roaders. If someone can ride the Sierras without a front derailer

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

Any speculation on the relationship of this bike to the "Fat tire, super duty tourer"??? due this summer? Couldn't be the same bike, could it? Fat tire? - yes. Super duty? - maybe with more braze-ons. Tourer? - this is where it seems unlikely unless extended cruising is the new touring... I'd b

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

> > It don't look like no chopper...but sounds like a fast cruiser-ish bike... > If it turns out to be a chopper, Nitto is gonna have to make some chain link handlebars, and fast! Brooks is gonna have to make a leather banana seat, with sissy bar, like yesterday! Velocity is gonna have to put ou

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

I think that maybe I'M the target market! Now that I know what the mystery bike is all about, it's giving me serious pause. I just finished paying for my oldest kid's college, and I've been seriously teetering on the edge of ordering my first custom bike ever as a reward - a totally frivolous on

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

I went by Riv HQ today and rode the Appaloosa. I assure you it was delightful. It's a dynamite bike unlike any other bike I've ever ridden. Those that say they don't get it have it 100% correct. They fail to understand what it is, and what it is for. Open your mind a little and at least I

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

It's a chopper, and it does what choppers do: Cruise calmy along the waterfront with hands lightly resting on bars that reach *way* back. If you'll recall, Grant originally proposed shifting the two-ring cranks with a stick. Yes, this chopper comes with a suicide shifter! Joe Bernard Vallejo,

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

On Mon, 2012-12-31 at 08:19 -0800, Brewster Fong wrote: > > I don't get this bike? Is it design for flatland like Florida? How can > you have a 54/55cm bike with a 62.5 toptube? Any rider would have an > extremely long torso?! Unless it was designed to be used with bars that come back at you...

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

When I lived in San Fancisco and Oakland almost every person I knew rode a 1-3 speed drivetrain. This being an 8-10 speed one I think they'll get by! -J, in PHL now -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion

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I agree with you John, I totally dig the name. I can't say I am in a market for this type of bike being that I need something for club road riding more than anything else right now. I do like the stays in the rear, they do give it a unique and pretty cool look. Dig the color. On Monday, D

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

A 36t ring and am 11-34 cassette gives you gears from 31" to 95" on Big Apples. That would be more than enough for me. Philip www.biketinker.com On Monday, December 31, 2012 8:19:33 AM UTC-8, Brewster Fong wrote: > > > > On Monday, December 31, 2012 6:04:42 AM UTC-8, Colin B. wrote: >> >> I d

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

I would be a buyer if the price was in a good spot. Currently have my '94 XO-4 set up as a Alba bar grocery getter / front mount baby hauler and have been thinking about setting up a Sam similarly as a replacement. The XO-4 has a 56 c-t seat tube and a 60.5 TT. The Appaloosa seems like a bet

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

Let us not forget that fixed gear drivetrains are the default, norm, benchmark, archetype, and fundamental and natural reference point for all cycling. They are *not* a limitation; rather everything else is, to one degree or another, a declension from their primal purity and huge fun. Amen. Over

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Kelly wrote: > Looks very similar to the Bombadil > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8112777098/in/set-72157631828024667/ Yes, the asymmetric stays are similar, but the App' has much longer chainstays and top tube than a Bomb'. It would be difficult to fit

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Brewster Fong wrote: >> That would explain the popularity of those Pake Urban bikes, Public >> bikes, and a whole store on Market Street for Dutch city anchors (I >> mean bikes), none of which would make it up California St without a >> push. > > > I don't know, l

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

I'm guessing meeting the right price point is the trick on this one. *Most *everybody here could be talked into getting one as an extra/fun bike if the price were right. Plus it would be a GREAT first bike for a LOT of people who just need something to ride to Trader Joe's, go to the movies, take a

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

Maybe people who live in the thousands of cities that aren't San Francisco? NY is a city that isn't San Francisco, I think at least from looking out the window, and is pretty flat, again that window is coming in handy today. I am not a geography expert but I have to "assume" that there are plenty

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

On Monday, December 31, 2012 10:10:52 AM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Brewster Fong > > > wrote: > > Maybe I'm spoiled, but living here in the SF Bay Area, we have tons of > > places to ride and there's always hills, especially here in SF. > > That would explain

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

Single-speeds, three-speeds, IGHs of all kinds, 1xXs, etc., all prove there are markets for bikes without a front derailer (infact, many different markets). In comparison to many common limitations on bikes, not having a front derailer is hardly radical: MCRBs that can't fit tires wider that 23mm

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

While I'm not the target buyer for this sort of bike I have to say 'YEAH!" to Grant for coming up with a nice name - Appaloosa. I may be in the minority here but names like Homer Hilsen, Bosco, Gomez... do nothing for me. The bikes are GREAT but the names - to me - are a let down. With Appalo

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Brewster Fong wrote: > Maybe I'm spoiled, but living here in the SF Bay Area, we have tons of > places to ride and there's always hills, especially here in SF. That would explain the popularity of those Pake Urban bikes, Public bikes, and a whole store on Market S

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

On Monday, December 31, 2012 8:20:50 AM UTC-8, justin...@gmail.com wrote: > > Then you probably aren't the target market. Fair enough, so who is the "target market?" Good Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view thi

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Then you probably aren't the target market. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4WGObogOg-kJ. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

On Monday, December 31, 2012 6:04:42 AM UTC-8, Colin B. wrote: > > I don't know if the thinking at Rivendell has changed, but Grant's > original vision for this storied frame was free of a front derailer: > > "[It's] basically a flat-to-rolling land bike that, by virtue of its > superlong top

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

I don't know if the thinking at Rivendell has changed, but Grant's original vision for this storied frame was free of a front derailer: "[It's] basically a flat-to-rolling land bike that, by virtue of its superlong top tube (62.5cm on this 54.3cm frame), locks you into a sweeepyback bar. That does

RE: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

ners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 6:49 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa What kinda field is that horse rampant on? But all kidding aside: I see peeps referring to a "

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

Looks very similar to the Bombadil http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8112777098/in/set-72157631828024667/ Saw this one at Hilly Hundred this year. Kelly On Saturday, December 29, 2012 4:12:27 PM UTC-6, Jim M. wrote: > > Dropped by RBW today for a few things, including a leftover RONA t-shi

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

I just read the Wiki page of Appaloosa and was really interested in all of the great info. Having never hear this word, I had assumed the title of this discussion had to do with some kind of outing or Riv-fest (kind of like Lollapalooza is to music). Good looking bike and I really like the col

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

Grant had always said he liked Indians as a kid, arrowheads and westerns and the like... Appaloosa automatically conjures up such imagery... I think it's a wonderful name for it... -L -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

I rode the prototype at Rivendell a few weeks ago. I was wearing business attire, including a tie, but still was unable to stop saying "wheee!" during the test ride. I also have more than a little experience riding Appaloosa (the equine variety) as a kid. Grant's version is superior to the

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

> > What kinda field is that horse rampant on? > But all kidding aside: I see peeps referring to a "Bosco Bike", a "Mystery Bike", and this "Apaloosa" bike. 1. Are they the same thing, just different names because no official one came out yet? They all have tentacular stays? In that case, they c

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

Maybe Grant has lost it and designed this bike for the SRAM XX1! Carbon everything, baby! :) http://www.sram.com/sram/mountain/family/xx1 On Sunday, December 30, 2012 1:34:31 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: > > This bike has very long chainstays, a very long headtube, and is not > intended to be

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

Toptube, not headtube. On Sunday, December 30, 2012 1:34:31 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: > This bike has very long chainstays, a very long headtube, and is not > intended to be run with a front derailer. It's much more "cruiser" than > anything else in Riv's line. > > Joe Bernard > Vallejo C

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

This bike has very long chainstays, a very long headtube, and is not intended to be run with a front derailer. It's much more "cruiser" than anything else in Riv's line. Joe Bernard Vallejo CA. On Saturday, December 29, 2012 9:52:40 PM UTC-8, Peter M wrote: > Haha, I am all for new bikes, esp

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

Haha, I am all for new bikes, especially ones that can be set up with IGH hubs. I do love a secret as well and so far I believe there has only been one "mystery bike" owner to come forward and it had more the touches of a custom, with the scarab headbadge and all. I would love to get a test ride on

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

Before you get all "conspiracy theorist" about this, the finished one I saw was one of the original batch that went to the early adopters. This green one may be part of that, as well. Besides, if it's a new bike that's taking off due to popularity, let's be happy about that! Grant never did

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

Now I am curious, how many of these things are there if they are getting shipped out to customers? Did I miss a Blug or email about them picking a name and head badge or are we in the realm of not so secret secrets? On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 12:01 AM, Dave wrote: > I saw an Appaloosa at RBW befor

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

I saw an Appaloosa at RBW before it was shipped (not the one in this pic). One of the prettiest bikes I've ever seen. No front derailer, either. Having ridden the Bosco/proto/whatever, and knowing the it became the Appaloosa, I'd buy one instead of a custom. It was THAT fun! You can strap

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

What - no racks, no bags, no baskets? Not even a pump or bottle cage? And it's already got grips & bar tape! Nice looking ride; maybe built for a customer? Those head badges are quite nicely detailed. dougP On Saturday, December 29, 2012 2:12:27 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote: > > Dropped by RBW

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

... quite different. --Smitty On Saturday, December 29, 2012 8:01:31 PM UTC-8, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: > > Interesting on the color of the Appaloosa... > thisappears to be the > same bike but lighting and what-not makes the color > appe

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

Interesting on the color of the Appaloosa... thisappears to be the same bike but lighting and what-not makes the color appear quite. --Smitty On Saturday, December 29, 2012 2:12:27 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote: > > Dropped by RBW today for a fe

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

Hate that color, I much prefer the new Hunq color. I do love the headbadges though, the Gomez one is really sharp. If this is a production bike wouldnt there be real overlap between the Hunq, Bombadil, Sam and this one? I do love the bombadil (I own a 56) but for the price wouldnt it be better to j

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote: > That front derailleur cable routing appears to be jerry-rigged. Rumor has it that these will become production models. Maybe they'll add a front derailer stop. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

That front derailleur cable routing appears to be jerry-rigged. Once you get the cable stop established (looks like it's piggy-backing on the rear derailleur cable boss), the rest is relatively easy as there's going to be a guide at the bottom of the BB anyway. On Saturday, December 29, 2012

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Appaloosa

Hmm. This appears to be the HS/Bosco/Mystery Bike, but that wasn't supposed to come with (or be capable of having) a front derailer. Curious. Love the color. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Saturday, December 29, 2012 2:12:27 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote: > Dropped by RBW today for a few things, includ