Thanks for those insights Keith!
I came across the scapegoat V2 geometry chart (attached). Interesting
comparison to the current version (at the bottom of this
link: https://crustbikes.com/products/scapegoat).
When I reached out to Crust they said the current chainstay measurement of
451mm i
I haven't fully read this thread, but have been tempted to discuss my
Scapegoat. I have the Gen 2 and, as I've stated in other threads, it is
one of the best bikes I've ever owned. I was slow to investigate or buy it
- despite wanting the exact thing - because it is so ugly. I finally
jumped
Another question for you Crust Scapegoat owners... Crust released an
updated version last Fall (https://crustbikes.com/products/scapegoat).
Compared to the Tumbleweed Prospector, the new Scapegoat has 1.5 degree
steeper head tube angle, 1 degree slacker seat tube angle, and the
wheelbase is 50
You guys have it right for ball parking limits based on something in the
26x~4" range based on my experience.
As stated before, my custom Clockwork Dirt Fat 1x (SqT White Industries
Road Cranks w/76bcd spider & 1x ring) with narrow Deda stays has a Q of
~180mm and looking at the space needed fo
Thanks Zach! The Tumbleweed is definitely appealing, especially with a 29 x
3 dirt tire and 26 x 4 in winter.
I wonder if 26 x 4 with reasonably big rims (64mm or full 80mm) would work
with a modified cassette, like the setup Crust bikes talk about
here: https://www.tumblr.com/crustbikes/159521
I'm using a Shimano XTR M9125-1 with a Q of 174mm on my Rohloff Prospector
(first generation). With short axle XTR SPD pedals, it feels like a 168mm q
factor. I've tried several different cranks, and I think this is as narrow
as you can go. And if you are a super strong rider, maybe there's the
Thanks Laing and Hoch. Once again, confirmed that fatbike Q is more than I
care for.
On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 1:09 PM Hoch in ut wrote:
> For reference, I built a Pugsley years ago with White Industries cranks
> and custom BB. The narrowest I could get the Q factor was 183mm. That is
> with abo
For reference, I built a Pugsley years ago with White Industries cranks and
custom BB. The narrowest I could get the Q factor was 183mm. That is with
about 2-3mm crank clearance. Much narrower than stock but definitely
nowhere close to 160.
On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 10:48:43 AM UTC-7 P
Thanks, Bob. Others: If any of youse have this information, would be very
glad to hear it. Thanks.
On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 2:33 PM Bob wrote:
> Patrick,
>
> I do not, sorry to say. Would like to have those data myself. Anyone here
> have a Prospector, a caliper, and a few minutes to take measure
Tom, the OP is Joe D. and is specifically shopping for a fatbike. My thread
on internet-bob was about whether a fatbike would work for me, I've decided
it won't.
Joe Bernard with a B
On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:56:57 AM UTC-8 Tom Palmer wrote:
> I agree with Hoch- the Ritchey Comma
I agree with Hoch- the Ritchey Commando is Riv-esque and rides very well. I
have had several fat tire bikes from low end to high end and it just has
the ride. Good tires help any fat bike in particular. Schwalbe Jumbo Jims
in particular work for me.
In keeping with the spirit of Joes' ask- a du
Thank you, Robert. 185 mm is good, considering the tire clearance of the
Prospector.
--
Bob
On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 11:21:02 PM UTC-7 Robert Tilley wrote:
> I just measured my Prospector with Rohloff and measured a Q of 185 mm. I
> could likely shave a few mm off with with a different
I just measured my Prospector with Rohloff and measured a Q of 185 mm. I could likely shave a few mm off with with a different crank.Robert TilleySan Diego, CASent from my iPhoneOn Dec 20, 2022, at 1:33 PM, Bob wrote:Patrick,I do not, sorry to say. Would like to have those data myself. Anyone her
Mike has a lot of opinions. He builds excellent wheels. What he is looking
for is not necessarily what a Rivendell rider might be looking for in a
bike. He is an aggressive rider. If you are serious about a long chainstay
fat bike, it might be worth checking out Mahall Bikeworks. It is custom so
I’ve owned a number of fat bikes. One I thought was the most Riv-esque was
the Ritchey Commando. I don’t think they make them anymore. But you may be
able to find a used one. They rode fantastic. Chainstays were relatively
long.
Regarding chainstays, it was just fine in snow. Mike C’s point of
For the record I'm not the OP, which is why Keith deleted the post you're
replying to. Fortunately his info was helpful anyway, but Joe B. who
started a fatbike thread on internet-bob is not Joe D. who started this
one!
On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 12:16:48 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
Patrick,
I do not, sorry to say. Would like to have those data myself. Anyone here
have a Prospector, a caliper, and a few minutes to take measurements?
--
Bob
On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:17:49 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
> Bob: Do you know how low a Q you can get on the Prospector, S
Bob: Do you know how low a Q you can get on the Prospector, Scapegoat,
Chimera and Bull Thistle, particularly with a single speed drivetrain (if
any accept a ss drivetrain)? I've stayed away from Pugsleys etc because of
the Q but if one can be built as a ss with a Q of no more than 160 I'd be
very
Thanks all. What great insight! I can’t believe that Bearclaw… a titanium
drop-bar fat bike! I did recently learn about the Salsa Blackborow, but
that really seems fully into cargo bike territory, with chainstays and
wheelbase over 100mm longer than the Rivs. I know they designed it to be
more
Not to crowed Joe's questions, but this answers many of my questions about
fatbikes too; and I didn't know that there are 3.25 and 3.5 650B tires. So
thanks Keith for this detail. I've already found that no Riv can take full
3"/76 mm 700C tires, alas.
On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 7:06 PM iamkeith wro
Just wanted to say thanks for the insights everyone. I posted a longer
reply a few days ago that still awaiting the moderator (I guess?) but I
just wanted to say thanks in the meantime...
Joe
On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 6:12:33 PM UTC-7 rcook...@gmail.com wrote:
> Joe,
>
> The final iter
Joe,
before throwing in my 2 cents, I want to acknowledge that this is not
really answering your questions but, instead, telling you to do something
different. I usually get annoyed when people answer a direct question
with "you don't need that" but, in this case, my friend, I know enough
ab
Joe,
The final iteration of Surly's Pugsley had 460 mm chainstays and accepted
4.8 in. tires "with drivetrain restrictions." It also had a 72° seat tube
angle, which would feel a little more relaxed and Rivish than the steeper
angles on MTBs these days.
The Tumbleweed Prospector and the Crust
I've owned 5 different fat bikes over the last 10 years, and I love riding
on snowy trails. In my opinion, you do not want long chainstays for that.
Shorter chainstays make it easier to get traction and get up on top of the
snow. Multiple time Iditabike winner, Mike Curiak, feels the same way
<
I just saw a lovely Tumbleweed Prospector on Tumbleweed’s IG set up as a fatbike with 26x4On Dec 15, 2022, at 13:39, Brian Turner wrote:Speaking of Riv-esque? How about the Tanglefoot Bull Thistle? Pricey and extravagant for sure, but it sure is lovely. It's made by my buddy Alex Meade, too.On Th
Speaking of Riv-esque? How about the Tanglefoot Bull Thistle? Pricey and
extravagant for sure, but it sure is lovely. It's made by my buddy Alex
Meade, too.
On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 4:29 PM Coal Bee Rye Anne <
lionsrugbyalu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There's also the updated Crust Scapegoat/bot which
There's also the updated Crust Scapegoat/bot which takes up to 26x4"
through 29x3"
https://crustbikes.com/collections/frames/products/scapegoat
On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 4:23:20 PM UTC-5 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:
> I forgot the Blackborow was redesigned as a cargo long tail... I was never
I forgot the Blackborow was redesigned as a cargo long tail... I was never
in the market for such a thing but did initially have a slight interest in
the v1 Blackborow with the dinglespeed
build: https://www.salsacycles.com/bikes/2015_blackborow_ds
Here's a TI fat bike from Bearclaw with 463 cha
Joe - Have you taken a look at fat tire cargo bikes like the Surly Big Fat
Dummy? Or the Salsa Blackborow? I don't have experience with either, but
maybe they could be options to fit your use case?
S
On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 11:21:16 AM UTC-8 Joe D. wrote:
> Hello Rivendell aficionado
Just find a bike with chainstays that can accommodate 4.5" tires. Long
wheelbase is not necessary since the volume of the tires would be your
"comfort and suspension".
On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 2:21:16 PM UTC-5 Joe D. wrote:
> Hello Rivendell aficionados! The short version: I’d like so
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