Would like to comment again - when I used a similar style, it was on
bikes with 70 degree seat tube angles. Personally, would feel this
design now would put my knees too far forward to be comfortable. At
least on a modern bike.
Anyway, it's a moot point, as I am way past the weight limit for thi
> Never mind the Rally, if you're looking for examples of Campagnolo
> Horrible, be sure to include its predecessor, the Gran Turismo: a cross
> between a cheapie Valentino RD and a boat anchor.
Yeah. They are so uncharacteristically ugly for Campy only the most
hard core collector bothers with t
> This is interesting. I consider the sp-60 to be a very industrial
> looking seatpost. Compared to today's seatpost, I actually think it
> may be "louder" than current seatpost just because it is so different.
Well, assuming you set it up right with a saddle like the Brooks B-17
or Berthoud, the
On Aug 22, 11:29 am, JoelMatthews wrote:
> > OK...past aesthetics what is the benefit.
>
>
> It has always been a bit of a drag to work your keester off to come up
> with a full integrated look on your bike only to have the seat post
> mechanicals loudly make their presence known.
>
This is inte
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 07:57 -0700, JoelMatthews wrote:
> Campy consistently made better product (save, of course, the
> lovely to look at but horrid Campy Rally rear der).
Never mind the Rally, if you're looking for examples of Campagnolo
Horrible, be sure to include its predecessor, the Gran Turi
Johnny,
The seat post was not really a bad design at all, but you must understand how
things are manufactured to see why. When this type of post was made, the type
of machinery needed to make it was not that sophisticated. Hence the design
seams less than ideal from our stand point, because CNC
> Aesthetics aren't enough?
Absolutely it's enough. I just wanted to see if there was any benefit
past that.
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> OK...past aesthetics what is the benefit.
Aesthetics aren't enough? This is, after all the Rivendell site. One
can certainly argue a good Tig welded frame and solid color powder
coat with the appropriate dimensions and tubing will meet Rivendell
ride standards. So why get lugged steel with he
With a seat post, I stick it on there and never adjust it again. So
why not look cool? And I doubt NItto would make a bad product, and it
reminds me of bikes I had when i was a kid, and I think it looks like
a post that was made to do a specific job without trying to look
streamlined or modern or l
> Aesthetics and nostalgia are two different things. Assuming the seat
> clamp is well made (if not, Brompton makes a very nice one now), it is
> quite a stretch to say it is a bad design. The design got a bad rap
> mainly because the seat clamps - which were spec'd and sold by the
> saddle manuf
> *And* you bet you don't get as much setback with that old kind of post.
Not a problem if you are using it on a custom bike.
> (but which I recognize as style, not function or even necessarily
> aesthetics).
Now we are getting into the splitting hairs category. I hope to use
mine on a custom r
> Yes, but it's not nearly as nice as the other, more modern Nitto
> seatposts or, for that matter, my Dura Aces and old Simplex (think
> it's Simplex) -- whence my question.
Really not sure how you can say this without actually having one at
hand. As I say in my prior post, I have a horde of old
> Past nostalgia what would be the benefit of this post?
Aesthetics and nostalgia are two different things. Assuming the seat
clamp is well made (if not, Brompton makes a very nice one now), it is
quite a stretch to say it is a bad design. The design got a bad rap
mainly because the seat clamps
I am old enough to remember when the LaPrad type of post was called a
"micro-adjust" post because it didn't have the coarse serrations of
the old, separate-type clamp. *And* you bet you don't get as much
setback with that old kind of post. I think it's a quirky, nostalgia,
be different type of acce
Yes, but it's not nearly as nice as the other, more modern Nitto
seatposts or, for that matter, my Dura Aces and old Simplex (think
it's Simplex) -- whence my question.
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 9:24 PM, JoelMatthews wrote:
>> Can't see what the fuss is over the SP 60,though -- looks like a bad
>>
"...what would be the benefit of this post?"
Historically, from a practical POV, the clamp went with the saddle and
the post went with the frame.
Lots of frames were manufactured without standardized seat tube IDs.
The plain post would be very inexpensive to manufacture in a plethora
of sized.
L
I am a bit lost on this as well. While they look great I always
thought the two part seatposts of the past were a bad design
decision. Past nostalgia what would be the benefit of this post?
On Aug 21, 11:24 pm, JoelMatthews wrote:
> > Can't see what the fuss is over the SP 60,though -- looks li
> Can't see what the fuss is over the SP 60,though -- looks like a bad
> old design resurrected in better quality.
Sadly, good taste has become all too rare in this 21st Century. For
those of carrying the flame, there is now the SP-60. Which is, by the
way, the topic of this thread.
On Aug 21,
Bob: I've got the earlier aluminum DA posts on two Rivs; even with
their considerable setback I have to use a mallet to get my Flites far
back enough (yes, I ought to have listened to Grant long ago when he
counseled a 72* st; but mine are 73*) and the clamp grips the front
part of the cradle with
Totally agree with you, Bob. Before seeing the S-83, the old Suntoure
XC pro was my favorite. Even more so when I was riding mountain
bikes.
Just purchased the VO post for my LHT. Not as nicely finished, but a
bit more setback, which I seem to prefer on this bike. Also was
easier to install th
I ordered a Nitto S-83 quite some time ago, and this week I got around
to installing it, mating the Atlantis to the Brooks Team Pro.
As I was lubing and assembling the ensemble, I was struck by the fact
that this was the finest seatpost I had ever installed.
Better than my Dura-Ace, Synchros, Eas
@ Peter White, the Nitto Crystal Fellow (single-bolt) is $95, and the
Nitto Jaguar NJ SP72 (2-bolt) is $130 for the 210mm, and $140 for the
250mm, just to clarify.
On Aug 21, 8:10 am, msrw wrote:
> For everyone who uses traditional frames and subscribes to the "fist
> of seatpost extension" aest
For everyone who uses traditional frames and subscribes to the "fist
of seatpost extension" aesthetic, Peter White sells 210 mm Nitto
Jaguar seatposts for around US$ 90. Almost everyone else sells the
250 mm version at close to double Peter's price.
I agree with Jim that the Jaguar is arguably th
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 20:16 -0700, James Valiensi wrote:
> The Frog seat post must be the most secure and easy to adjust seat
> post in the world. I was so disappointed when Rivendell quit brining
> it in. They had the best price because they directly imported it from
> Nitto. Maybe there was press
The Frog seat post must be the most secure and easy to adjust seat post in the
world. I was so disappointed when Rivendell quit brining it in. They had the
best price because they directly imported it from Nitto. Maybe there was
pressure from the other distributers? If I need one now, I get it f
I noticed the restriction pertaining to recommended weight (not above
200 lbs.), so that would leave me out as well. My all-time favorite
seatpost is the Nitto Jaguar NJS seatpost, which Rivendell called the
"Frog" when they were selling it. I've used this seatpost on my
Rivendell Road Standard f
That's a beautiful bike
On Aug 20, 7:31 pm, James Valiensi wrote:
> Hi,
> Labeled and made by JP Valiensi. It is a 650B frame set made from Columbus
> tubing. I have Honjo fenders for it, but I don't use them in the summer.
> It is the 6th frame I made, about 6 years ago. Here is another photo o
Two factors keep me from buying one, the primary being my weight. At
220, well beyond what that system can tolerate.
And the top of the post. Just prefer a closed top post. Better to
keep out sweat and the elements.
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
On Aug 20, 8:04 pm, JoelMatthews wrote:
> > I'm curi
> I'm curious about the advantages of this type.
The advantage, if you will, is aesthetics. It affords a very pure and
clean look.
Similar product on the market use lower quality metal than the Nitto.
The excellent patina of the stem disappearing into a nice leather
saddle is a special visual.
Why inferior? I'm curious about the advantages of this type.
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 3:26 PM, cm wrote:
> I love the way this post looks. This is my new favorite seat post. All
> others now seem inferior.
>
> Great Pics.
>
> Thanks James!
>
> Cheers!
> cm
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James:
Thanks for the step by step. I'm pumped. My stem should arrive
Monday.
I plan on using mine with a Berthoud though!
And hey, your self-made bike is very nice.
On Aug 20, 3:51 pm, James Valiensi wrote:
> FYI,
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamespatrickvaliensi/sets/72157624644201...
Hi,
Labeled and made by JP Valiensi. It is a 650B frame set made from Columbus
tubing. I have Honjo fenders for it, but I don't use them in the summer.
It is the 6th frame I made, about 6 years ago. Here is another photo of it:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamespatrickvaliensi/sets/7215762319317
I love the way this post looks. This is my new favorite seat post. All
others now seem inferior.
Great Pics.
Thanks James!
Cheers!
cm
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Nicely done.
Can you tell me about that pale yellow JPValiensi labelled
frameset?
On Aug 20, 1:51 pm, James Valiensi wrote:
> FYI,
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamespatrickvaliensi/sets/72157624644201...
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