On Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:42:07 AM UTC-5, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
> The real rub with V-Brakes (or specifically, linear pull) is that they tend
> to be on or off. It's a matter of the pressure your hands are used to
> applying, and the more time you spend running canti brakes, t
, 2011 1:00 AM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro
CR720)
I look back on the last 15 years of my cycling life, and I gotta say.
Cantis suck. Single pivot sidepulls suck. The disc brakes on my weirdo project
bike brake very well, b
on 8/31/11 5:15 AM, Earl Grey at earlg...@gmail.com wrote:
> I have always liked cantis, and the Tektro 720s are my favorites. I
> have disc brakes (Avid BB7 wit h8" rotors) on one tandem (didn't have
> a choice, and thought may as well give them a chance. Every few rides
> I need to adjust the pa
I have always liked cantis, and the Tektro 720s are my favorites. I
have disc brakes (Avid BB7 wit h8" rotors) on one tandem (didn't have
a choice, and thought may as well give them a chance. Every few rides
I need to adjust the pads because they rub. In the rain, they squeal
like crazy. Don't see
Gee Phil, I'm sorry to hear you have had such bad luck with brakes. We're
glad you're still alive. Some cantis and some canti - lever combinations
are indeed more trouble than their worth, but that's not true of all cantis.
A good set of brakes will last as long, or even longer than a frame, s
I look back on the last 15 years of my cycling life, and I gotta say.
Cantis suck. Single pivot sidepulls suck. The disc brakes on my weirdo
project bike brake very well, but go 'shk shk shk' in corners. The
nicer Avid v-brakes on my 1999 Bontrager have, aside from the initial
squealy pads ("hey, s
Michael:
Thanks for sharing your experiences. I plan to try a high profile
canti set-up on my wife's Atlantis as a first measure. Hopefully that
will replicate the braking performance of her old bike. If not, I'll
look into V-brakes & new levers, but that probably has its own
learning curve.
d
Doug, you pose the perfect question for me to share my experience with
cantilevers and why I continue to believe in hi straddle and hi profile
cantis.
My first experience with cantis, after years of good riding with Campy Grand
Sport LR brakes and Chorus SR brakes came around 2000, when I bough
Normal drop bar brake levers do not pull enough cable to actuate typical
V-brakes. There are special levers that pull more cable. and there are
inline pulley solutions that correct the cable rate issues. Small-handed,
weak-gripped riders have a significant challenge getting
confidence-inspiri
Is this ever a timely discussion! Just back from a tour in Oregon
featuring plenty of hills. My wife's Atlantis is standard Riv build
with the low profile Shimano cantis and Shimano aero levers. It does
have Kool Stop salmon pads. In the past, she's mentioned the brakes
did not seem as good as
Thanks for that explanation, William,
that was enlightening, and jives with my experience. The way my non-
engineer's brain makes sense of this is this:
The main brake cable moves up when you engage the brake. For a high
profile canti to engage you also mostly need to pull up on the
straddle wire
Sheldon (RIP) did a great job of laying out the geometry factors, but didn't
really get to the punchline.
The punchline, in my opinion is that the mechanical advantage of high
profile cantilevers is almost constant regardless of straddle cable length.
Brakes like Tektro CR720s and old Mafacs
Aha. My rule-of-remembering has been "high profile = high hanger; low
profile = low hanger," just like Michael's, until I put this brake on
with every mm eked out of the straddle wire and it was still
disappointing. I'll try a long longer straddle wire, and possibly a
wider hanger first. And those
Sheldon Brown sez: http://sheldonbrown.com/cantilever-geometry.html
On Aug 28, 12:07 pm, Michael Hechmer wrote:
> My favorite cable hanger is this one, which I got from Jitensha but are no
> longer carried.
>
> http://gallery.me.com/mhechmer#100029/IMG_1193&bgcolor=black
>
> They are the best
My experience with the CR720 requires the yoke to be as high... so
high that I had to use an extra-wide yoke because the straddle cable
wasn't long enough.
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My favorite cable hanger is this one, which I got from Jitensha but are no
longer carried.
http://gallery.me.com/mhechmer#100029/IMG_1193&bgcolor=black
They are the best looking I have ever seen and are completely self
centering, once installed. Initial set-up, however is a meticulous, time
c
Agreed, it is a very nice-looking hanger, and most importantly for me,
it uses a 10mm box wrench and a 5mm? Allen key to adjust. How many of
you carry 2 separate 9 or 10mm box wrenches, which most straddle cable
hangers from the last 70 years require? And how often does one or the
other of those bo
Philip,
you are trying to put mountain style pads into a road style brake pad
holder. Get some Yokozuma *road* replacement pads (for side-pull
brakes) and they'll fit perfectly.
Cheers,
Gernot
On Aug 28, 1:54 pm, Philip Williamson
wrote:
> Hmm... what pads do you get? I was disappointed in th
I'm using Kool Stop Mountain in the front and the Thinline in the
back. I do not like the Thinline with this brake.
I found that I had to RAISE the yoke in the front. I guess different
levers can have a big impact on mechanical advantage even thought they
are all made for cantis?
On Aug 28, 2:5
Hmm... what pads do you get? I was disappointed in the Tektros and put
the stock Shimano cheapies back on the rear. I got Yokozuna pads from
Rivendell, but they were really long and seemed to have a shallower
mounting groove than was safe with the Tektros. It didn't look like I
could use them: http
The argument that the Tektro hanger is the best...is a funny argument
at some level, because any decent one from the pas 70 years is 98
percent as good as any other, including this. The Tektro *wins*--my
opinion--the final 2 unimportant percent, because if for any reason
(can think of two offhand)
My take: I think these are indeed the best straddle hangers out
there. Here's why. You position the hanger for optimum/even pull
from both brake calipers, then you set the screws and secure the
straddle wire so the hanger remains perfectly positioned; without it
the hanger can float and eventuall
Another plus is that (for me anyway) they seem to work well with non-
aero levers--sometimes it's hard to make those levers work with
cantis. I have some nice Campy and Mafac levers I wanted to use.
Ryan
On Aug 27, 10:49 am, Mojo wrote:
> Agree with rcnute, these CR720 is easy to setup and quit
Agree with rcnute, these CR720 is easy to setup and quite powerful
especially with salmon pads and the straddle cable as low as possible.
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Super easy to set up and very strong. I have them on all my bikes.
Gotta replace the pads though.
Ryan
On Aug 27, 8:12 am, Michael Hechmer wrote:
> I don't own these, but have considered buying a pair of the Tektro brakes
> for a winter bike. The Riv photo, with the barkes installed doesn't sh
I don't own these, but have considered buying a pair of the Tektro brakes
for a winter bike. The Riv photo, with the barkes installed doesn't show
the additional screw. But more importantly how do you like the brakes?
Stopping power? Ease of set up?
michael
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I like the hangers, but like Shaun I just don't use the screws.
Prefer the hanger to be able to slide from side to side. It makes for
an easier on-the-bike adjustment to even out the brakes.
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
On Aug 27, 6:09 am, Garth wrote:
> Yeah I don't know why anyone would call
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