[RBW] Re: Query about RBW models

2009-03-28 Thread James Warren
That's a pretty all-star line-up of all-around bike options for a fraction of the cost of many lesser bikes in the mainstream market. On Mar 28, 2009, at 10:28 AM, John at Rivendell wrote: > > The Legolas is a once-a-year run. This year, we didn't do it because > there was only (I think) one

[RBW] Re: Query about RBW models

2009-03-28 Thread John at Rivendell
The Legolas is a once-a-year run. This year, we didn't do it because there was only (I think) one on pre-order. It's a specialized machine, and we will make it again, providing there is enough interest to warrant a run. We put our dough into the Sams, Bettys, and Quickbeams this Spring. Cheers,

[RBW] Re: Query about RBW models

2009-03-28 Thread Chris
so, are they still being sold? On Mar 28, 5:58 am, John at Rivendell wrote: > Great summary, Jim! > > Cheers, > > John > > On Mar 24, 9:35 am, CycloFiend wrote: > > > > > on 3/24/09 4:38 AM, GeorgeS at chobur...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > Is it my imagination, or are a number of the RBW frames es

[RBW] Re: Query about RBW models

2009-03-28 Thread John at Rivendell
Great summary, Jim! Cheers, John On Mar 24, 9:35 am, CycloFiend wrote: > on 3/24/09 4:38 AM, GeorgeS at chobur...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Is it my imagination, or are a number of the RBW frames essentially > > the same bike with different names.  I bought a Rambouillet in 05 and > > I'm told n

[RBW] Re: Query about RBW models

2009-03-26 Thread Chris
Is RBW still selling the Legolas? Since it's not on the site, I wonder On Mar 24, 4:37 pm, "J. Burkhalter" wrote: > Speaking o' the Legolas, anybody know why it was spec'd with a > threadless setup? > > On Mar 24, 12:01 pm, boomer wrote: > > > > > I'm new to the Rivendell line of bikes, so

[RBW] Re: Query about RBW models

2009-03-24 Thread erik jensen
i would guess a mixture of weight and strength considerations, the advantages of which are apparent for a full-on racing bicycle. On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 6:37 PM, J. Burkhalter wrote: > > Speaking o' the Legolas, anybody know why it was spec'd with a > threadless setup? > > > > --~--~-~

[RBW] Re: Query about RBW models

2009-03-24 Thread David Estes
Vertical compliance On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 4:37 PM, J. Burkhalter wrote: > > Speaking o' the Legolas, anybody know why it was spec'd with a > threadless setup? > > > > On Mar 24, 12:01 pm, boomer wrote: > > I'm new to the Rivendell line of bikes, so thanks for your summary. > > Can you elabora

[RBW] Re: Query about RBW models

2009-03-24 Thread J. Burkhalter
Speaking o' the Legolas, anybody know why it was spec'd with a threadless setup? On Mar 24, 12:01 pm, boomer wrote: > I'm new to the Rivendell line of bikes, so thanks for your summary. > Can you elaborate on the Legolas?  I don't see many of these around > and not much information seems to be

[RBW] Re: Query about RBW models

2009-03-24 Thread CycloFiend
on 3/24/09 8:01 AM, boomer at phil...@gmail.com wrote: > > I'm new to the Rivendell line of bikes, so thanks for your summary. > Can you elaborate on the Legolas? I don't see many of these around > and not much information seems to be available. > Legolas was designed as a cross-specific (cyc

[RBW] Re: Query about RBW models

2009-03-24 Thread boomer
I'm new to the Rivendell line of bikes, so thanks for your summary. Can you elaborate on the Legolas? I don't see many of these around and not much information seems to be available. Thanks. On Mar 24, 9:35 am, CycloFiend wrote: > on 3/24/09 4:38 AM, GeorgeS at chobur...@gmail.com wrote: > > >

[RBW] Re: Query about RBW models

2009-03-24 Thread Rick
> Trouble with that is it ignores tire width, type of brakes, "sportiness" > and "geometry as it affects handling, not size".- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - You're right, it does. And brake type is key to AHH. But accepting that the all-rounder theme prevails, user tire width is

[RBW] Re: Query about RBW models

2009-03-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 13:41 -0700, Rick wrote: > I think there are two distinctions that are helpful in separating the > bikes into overarching categories: place of manufacture and the > expanded geometry. The hillborne falls in the budget/less expensive > category (like the bleriot b/f it) b/c

[RBW] Re: Query about RBW models

2009-03-24 Thread Seth Vidal
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Rick wrote: > We could plot them in a graph along these two > perpendicular axes (taiwan-japan, expanded geo - not). Or perhaps, in > terms of relative distance/direction from a core ideal, like, say, the > AHH. Wow, you can tell someone here is an engineer of so

[RBW] Re: Query about RBW models

2009-03-24 Thread Rick
y is still a really sweet bike though. > > Dustin "ain't got nothing against all-rounders because he owns three of > them" Sharp > > > > > From: CycloFiend > > Reply-To: > > Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:35:23 -0800 > > To: > > Subject: [RBW]

[RBW] Re: Query about RBW models

2009-03-24 Thread Dustin Sharp
three of them" Sharp > From: CycloFiend > Reply-To: > Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:35:23 -0800 > To: > Subject: [RBW] Re: Query about RBW models > > > on 3/24/09 4:38 AM, GeorgeS at chobur...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Is it my imagination, or are a number of

[RBW] Re: Query about RBW models

2009-03-24 Thread Horace
Similar, yes; but different enough to cause much hand-wringing and consternation among Rambouillet fans when that model was discontinued. On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 5:38 AM, GeorgeS wrote: > > Is it my imagination, or are a number of the RBW frames essentially > the same bike with different names.

[RBW] Re: Query about RBW models

2009-03-24 Thread CycloFiend
on 3/24/09 4:38 AM, GeorgeS at chobur...@gmail.com wrote: > Is it my imagination, or are a number of the RBW frames essentially > the same bike with different names. I bought a Rambouillet in 05 and > I'm told now that it is no longer being made. But it looks very > similar to the Homer Hilsen

[RBW] Re: Query about RBW models

2009-03-24 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Also: The Bleriot (discontinued) was a made in Taiwan, budget version of the Saluki, which was one of the early RBW 650B models. The line between the Saluki and the AHH is a little blurry. I seem to recall that the AHH was initially the same as the Saluki, but available in larger sizes and with 70

[RBW] Re: Query about RBW models

2009-03-24 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I'm sure here are several differences, but the most significant is that AHH was built around the new XL reach Tektro 556 brakes. Fits bigger tires. On Mar 24, 7:38 am, GeorgeS wrote: > Is it my imagination, or are a number of the RBW frames essentially > the same bike with different names.  I bo