[RBW] Re: Please discourage me

2016-04-15 Thread John A. Bennett
Better still: Ride your bike, and let the paint get chipped up, dinged, and scuffed. 20 years down the road, your bike will look even better than it does today. I'm on *Year 11* with my Saluki, and it's just *starting* to get good. -John On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 9:20:00 AM UTC-7, Ad

[RBW] Re: Please discourage me

2016-04-15 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Michael, just curious; have you and Garth been doing cafe rides together lately? On Friday, April 15, 2016 at 6:12:06 AM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote: > > Happiness does not come from having what we want; it comes from wanting > what we have. Try having a conversation with the feeling - idea;

[RBW] Re: Please discourage me

2016-04-15 Thread Michael Hechmer
Happiness does not come from having what we want; it comes from wanting what we have. Try having a conversation with the feeling - idea; it will start to loose its power if you objectify it instead of identify with it. Of course you could just enjoy the idea, and skip the project. Practice

[RBW] Re: Please discourage me

2016-04-13 Thread Adama
Thank you all for briefly indulging/disabusing me of this silly notion--all your caveats are well-reasoned--and much needed. Ahh. And now that wave has passed. Yes, it was Grant's recent post about why Riv doesn't do clear coat over bare steel anymore that got the thought lodged in my head ag

Re: [RBW] Re: Please discourage me

2016-04-13 Thread Hugh Smitham
Here's a fiery look i'd be after. https://www.instagram.com/p/BEKKx8jG0Dg/ ~Hugh On Apr 13, 2016 9:43 PM, "sameness" wrote: > I don't think you'll end up getting the fiery look you're hoping for, but > it's a current production bicycle frame, not a Caravaggio. > > So long as you have the stomac

[RBW] Re: Please discourage me

2016-04-13 Thread IanA
The trouble with trying to strip a painted bike back to raw is that one tends to end up with the color remaining in areas like the lug joints and the awkward bits around the bottom bracket shell etc. You may find that you go through the whole process to end up with a slightly scrappy looking

[RBW] Re: Please discourage me

2016-04-13 Thread sameness
I don't think you'll end up getting the fiery look you're hoping for, but it's a current production bicycle frame, not a Caravaggio. So long as you have the stomach for possible disappointment and the means for new paint if things don't go your way, do what thou wilt. Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles

[RBW] Re: Please discourage me

2016-04-13 Thread drew
late to the game here, but the rusting only happens with the clear powdercoat on account of no primer? a colored powdercoat (like on the protovelo i have) would not have invisi-rust under its color? right? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: Please discourage me

2016-04-13 Thread dougP
Adama: Changing cockpits, racks, etc., are pretty benign experiments that are easily reversed. But stripping the paint? Whew! This subject has been discussed before & the consensus is pretty much any sort of humid environment is risky. So if you're within 100 miles of a large body of water

Re: [RBW] Re: Please discourage me

2016-04-13 Thread Hugh Smitham
Well it definitely discouraged me :) On Apr 13, 2016 8:06 PM, "Michael Morrissey" wrote: > Maybe this will discourage you? > > > https://www.google.com/search?q=rust+hood+vw&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj30aPMko3MAhWLmx4KHZ5gC04Q_AUIBygB&biw=960&bih=521 > > > On Wednesday, April 13, 2016

[RBW] Re: Please discourage me

2016-04-13 Thread Michael Morrissey
Maybe this will discourage you? https://www.google.com/search?q=rust+hood+vw&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj30aPMko3MAhWLmx4KHZ5gC04Q_AUIBygB&biw=960&bih=521 On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 12:20:00 PM UTC-4, Adama wrote: > > Does this ever happen to you? You get a silly notion. Doesn't

[RBW] Re: Please discourage me

2016-04-13 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Consider yourself discouraged. Find a decent photoshop person, give them a pic or two of your bike, have them doctor it up so it looks like the flaming raw steel steed you think you want. Get it framed. Put it on your nightstand. Lie down and go to sleep. Wake up to find your beautiful orange S

[RBW] Re: Please discourage me

2016-04-13 Thread Hugh Smitham
ROTFL. Brian that's a great analogy like cold fusion. perfect! That's gonna be with me all day :) In a recent Blug post didn't Grant just talk about raw under a clear coat as a nice idea in theory but in reality it just doesn't make sense. I spoke to my frame builder and asked about doing a pa

[RBW] Re: Please discourage me

2016-04-13 Thread Joe Bernard
I'll add to the other thoughts the thought about resale. Rivs are not mass production bicycles, and specific models other than the Atlantis seem to reach end dates, so used ones hold value well. A stripped Sam is not likely to do so, so you'd need to be pretty sure you're never going to sell it

[RBW] Re: Please discourage me

2016-04-13 Thread Philip Kim
I won't discourage it, but i will try to channel it. Maybe get yourself an older cheap bike and strip the paint off instead of stripping the otherwise beautiful paint from the Sam. >From there you can just leave it raw or just oil it with linseed or wax it every few months and you won't feel ba

[RBW] Re: Please discourage me

2016-04-13 Thread Brian Campbell
I am a terrible "because I wanted to try it" offender. Many a deal has been gotten at my expense, because of this approach. What I find quells the urges are long rides on you current bike. I have noticed that my periods of "experimentation" coincide with my lack of activity. I say go for a long

[RBW] Re: Please discourage me

2016-04-13 Thread Bill Lindsay
Regarding the notion of wanting to try something different, I can empathize. What you need to do is ditch the idea that changing to this means getting rid of that. Your exploration should always involve getting more stuff. More parts so you can switch back and forth at will, for free, or (pr