[RBW] Re: OT: Lugged Bikes vs.Timber-Frames

2010-12-04 Thread Phil Brown
On Nov 30, 10:22 am, Marty wrote: > Phil, there is such a thing as a dove-tail scarf joint, and this is > one of 'em. Agree there are more elaborate joints out there, but this > gets the job done. Not sure if the cross section drives the choice of > joint, but I suspect a more complex scarf woul

[RBW] Re: OT: Lugged Bikes vs.Timber-Frames

2010-12-01 Thread William
I'm about 80/20 on this. I am 80% sure that Grant was joking when he suggested that in the reader. I've fallen for a straight-faced statement in another Riv posting that I thought was a great idea, asked them if I could buy it and they said "dude! that was a joke." If he wasn't joking, the remain

[RBW] Re: OT: Lugged Bikes vs.Timber-Frames

2010-12-01 Thread Michael Shaljian
Speaking of timber and lugged steel... I recall seeing in one of the Riv-Readers an awesome idea of Grant's for adding a second top-tube by snuggly securing a piece of wood as the second tube. Have any of the more handy folks in this group done this sort of thing yet, and are there any tips for how

[RBW] Re: OT: Lugged Bikes vs.Timber-Frames

2010-12-01 Thread Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles
I came across this image recently and thought that now you can have the best of both worlds -- lugged steel with a superb wood appearance: http://www.cycleexif.com/robs-woodwork-alien Bryan On Nov 30, 9:05 pm, andrew hill wrote: > i wonder if a carbo-no-mas fork would work with one of those... >

Re: [RBW] Re: OT: Lugged Bikes vs.Timber-Frames

2010-11-30 Thread andrew hill
i wonder if a carbo-no-mas fork would work with one of those... andrew On Nov 30, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Bill M. wrote: > Thinking of bikes, timber frames, beautiful construction and nice > joinery leads me to think of: > > http://www.renovobikes.com/gallery-r4-pursuit/ > > Bill > > On Nov 30,

[RBW] Re: OT: Lugged Bikes vs.Timber-Frames

2010-11-30 Thread Bill M.
Thinking of bikes, timber frames, beautiful construction and nice joinery leads me to think of: http://www.renovobikes.com/gallery-r4-pursuit/ Bill On Nov 30, 4:00 am, Marty wrote: > Lugged bikes are like timber-framed structures; both beautiful, > neither wanting to cover up the joinery, stron

[RBW] Re: OT: Lugged Bikes vs.Timber-Frames

2010-11-30 Thread doug peterson
This is a good examle of the type of detail you can encounter, and stop to enjoy, when traveling by bike. Were you in a car, you'd just whiz by & perhaps note "Nice wood framing". dougP On Nov 30, 10:49 am, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > Either way I say it's impressive > > Bobby "gotta learn th

[RBW] Re: OT: Lugged Bikes vs.Timber-Frames

2010-11-30 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Either way I say it's impressive Bobby "gotta learn them joints" Birmingham On Nov 30, 1:22 pm, Marty wrote: > Phil, there is such a thing as a dove-tail scarf joint, and this is > one of 'em. Agree there are more elaborate joints out there, but this > gets the job done. Not sure if the cros

[RBW] Re: OT: Lugged Bikes vs.Timber-Frames

2010-11-30 Thread Marty
Phil, there is such a thing as a dove-tail scarf joint, and this is one of 'em. Agree there are more elaborate joints out there, but this gets the job done. Not sure if the cross section drives the choice of joint, but I suspect a more complex scarf would be problematic in a timber that is a foot s

[RBW] Re: OT: Lugged Bikes vs.Timber-Frames

2010-11-30 Thread Phil Brown
On Nov 30, 7:27 am, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > I can't get over how nicely they dove-tail joined the footer beam (to > lengthen it) Another builder might have discarded the 2 pieces in > favor of a longer one, or worse, bolted them together with steel > plates, then felt compelled to hide it

[RBW] Re: OT: Lugged Bikes vs.Timber-Frames

2010-11-30 Thread Montclair BobbyB
I can't get over how nicely they dove-tail joined the footer beam (to lengthen it) Another builder might have discarded the 2 pieces in favor of a longer one, or worse, bolted them together with steel plates, then felt compelled to hide it under a facade. Amazing craftsmanship; truly a thing o