And then there's Jobst Brandt, who carries no water, Gatorade, et
cetera.
He stops to drink.
Very civilized, I would say.
Bob
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I'll tell ya, *I* didn't consider that buyers would cross-thread a braze-on,
then think it was someone* else's* fault. Sheesh.
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Grant, Thanks for replying to all of our ideas and suggestions. It's always
interesting and enlightening to get the maker's perspective on these things
and your posts on the RBW site exemplify this. These are things that the
buyer/user/rider would not probably consider. Steve
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The Betty Foy has only one set of bottle braze-ons. It makes sense with the
geometry but can be inconvient.
On Wednesday, September 28, 2011 12:16:01 PM UTC-7, EricP wrote:
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> And still hoping that Rivendell eventually makes a bike with just one
> set of bottle braze-ons. A lot of fol
Have been lucky enough to ride both in the east (Washington DC) and
the west (San Diego) during the summer. Only really suffered once.
On the Rivendell group ride in San Diego. Go figure. Same bike on
each coast. And rides similar in distance. About 40 miles. Even
today, can't figure it out,
On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 11:43 -0700, dougP wrote:
> Humidity is a killer. Did a couple of weeks in rural Wisconsin this
> summer. Same problem you mention about stores. Plenty of places on
> the map turned out to be crossroads. More water is always better.
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> Even in California, a 3rd water bot
Humidity is a killer. Did a couple of weeks in rural Wisconsin this
summer. Same problem you mention about stores. Plenty of places on
the map turned out to be crossroads. More water is always better.
Even in California, a 3rd water bottle is handy. The cool ocean
breezes only extend a few mi
On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 07:58 -0700, grant wrote:
> I remember when the first bikes showed up with two sets of bottle
> mounts. We looked askance at 'em. Those were the soft-core gimmicky
> bikes of their day.
Maybe in California that might be true. Here in Northern Virginia, the
climate won't le
Aah, I hadn't thought about the "tight curve" with bottom-lug-mount cable
stops. Thanks for the answer.
Joe Bernard
Fairfield, CA.
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Every way and place for bosses or stops has its plusses and minuses,
so it ends up being a well-intentioned judgment call---what we do and
where they go. For example (not to drag this out, but all the points
were well-made)..
Threads aren't as helpfully innocuous as they seem to be when they're
p
I find the third cage very useful . I use it for tubes and repair kit and a
few tools, wrapped burrito style in the canvas Riv sells, and a very small
100cu. in. saddle bag, one that does not rub my legs. I've tried to put
everything in a larger saddle bad, but they rub on my rear or legs , th
When it comes to carrying water, I can't recommend dromedary bags enough-
you can carry a gallon of water in the bottom of a Wald medium front basket
alone. You can sling dromedary bag over your rear rack, stuff it into a
pannier, or empty it out and roll it up to the size of a cigar.
I much prefer DT shifters, too.
Has anyone come out with clamp-on DT bosses for larger sized down tubes?
When I had my Bleriot, I searched high and low and couldn't find anything
suitable.
FYI: if you have DT bosses but use STI or whatever, I've found that many shops
will just give you those litt
On the water bottle cage issue, you can always add additional bottle
holders with clamps. In the days before braze-ons, everything got
clamped to the frame. Even 30 years ago, plenty of good bikes came
with only 1 set of bottle holder cage bosses. If you wanted a second
bottle on the seat tube,
I'd like to see the cable-stops at the bottom headtube lug, which would
eliminate the cable housing rubbing that area. The only reason cable-stops
are where they are now is because that's where the bosses used to be.
Joe Bernard
Fairfield, CA.
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Grant, If I may, I'd like to suggest an alternative to the shifter bosses
and the generic cable stops like the ones on my Bleriot. Couldn't you spec
a threaded cable stop? I'm sure I saw adjusters that thread into such, and
of course you could carry the adjusters in stock. This would be a sli
The arguments for and against DT shifter bosses and third water bottle
bosses can go only so far, because the opposite side has a good
argument, too.
We don't recommend downtube shifters on our bikes for the reasons
given---higher bars, farther reach to the shifters. It's never dumb to
do that, bu
I have a Sam Hillborne and went with barends for it, but I honestly prefer
downtube shifting because of the ease of setup and lack of shifter cables on
the bars. The sloping toptube argument seems like a good one for lack of
bosses, but I think with my next bike, which will either be a Roadeo o
DT bosses not only add cost, but those pricey bolt-on cable stops that
we must use make it even more expensive.
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No DT shifters is becoming the norm . What I don't get is ... why no third
set of bottle braze-ons in the Sam? That's a cost cutting measure I will
never accept and goes against the the premise that it is an all-purpose
bike. If I buy one, I'll have them send it out to add them and have it
The Bleriot does not have them either, and I guess it was the first "low
cost Taiwan-made" Riv frame. Although I use STI shifters, I miss having
the bosses and the Shimano adjusters that fit over them. I had to find a
solution to add cable adjusters when I was building up the Bleriot, and
se
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