[RBW] Re: No More Plastic Water Bottles for Me

Over the past few years I seem to have developed a sensitivity to the taste of plastic in my drinking water. It started with Camelback bladders and then began to include most bicycle water bottles. My theory is that I've become so saturated with micro plastics that my taste buds are trying to w

[RBW] Re: No More Plastic Water Bottles for Me

I too, am trying to move away from plastic. My wife and I are two thumbs up on the Bivo bottles and I'll get another for our daughter soon. Only time will tell how long the silicone coating protects the bottles, but I've never minded the "beautification" on my Clean Kanteen! On Thursday, Apr

[RBW] Re: No More Plastic Water Bottles for Me

I bought a 25 oz for my bike riding friend's birthday, ordered one for me too. I have not used it yet, trying to get over some lung crud so only short rides. I've been using Kleen Canteen for about two years, but not with a sippy-cup top. Ride with no hands, unscrew lid, drink, repeat. Mike SL

[RBW] Re: No More Plastic Water Bottles for Me

If you can get ahold of one of the old style Klean Kanteen 16oz stainless bottles with just a flat screw-on lid (I don't think they make them anymore) you can also get this https://www.amazon.com/Neoprene-Bottle-Coolie-Bottom-Various/dp/B01MRQJFZF/ref=pd_lpo_d_sccl_2/137-0892808-8495053?pd_rd_w

Re: [RBW] Re: No More Plastic Water Bottles for Me

I don’t mind plastic, tho’ I’ll choose stainless steel when I can. But I’ll choose bottles with a full flip-up cap over the spout or mouth, even if plastic, over an unprotected bottle in steel since I often ride on horse-infested roads and paths. The best of both worlds are full-cover flip-top sta

Re: [RBW] Re: No More Plastic Water Bottles for Me

I second the notion of no plastic water bottles. For over a decade, I've used the Kleen Kanteen 27 oz stainless containers, they are the same diameter as the standard plastic bike water bottles. The secret is to use the King Cage Iris cages. They snugly hold onto any stainless bottle with ZERO ratt

[RBW] Re: No More Plastic Water Bottles for Me

Steven, did you get the silicone coated Bivo? I got a purple one for my Charlie for hot summer rides but haven’t had any hot summer rides so haven’t used it yet. But that silicone was supposed to keep the cage from scratching the bottle. Now that I have moved Charlie to road bike duty, I neede

[RBW] Re: No More Plastic Water Bottles for Me

Only problem is rattle in the cage that needs to be addressed. Cotton bar tape? Hemp twine? Something like that, that you've already got laying around. --Shannon On Thursday, April 3, 2025 at 5:16:09 PM UTC-7 George Schick wrote: > If you can get ahold of one of the old style Klean Kanteen

RE: [RBW] Re: No More Plastic Water Bottles for Me

water because it was so well insulated From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Will Boericke Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2025 12:58 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: No More Plastic Water Bottles for Me I bought my wife a Bivo for Xmas - she uses is for swimming (at the end of the

[RBW] Re: No More Plastic Water Bottles for Me

I bought my wife a Bivo for Xmas - she uses is for swimming (at the end of the pool), and loves it. I have not converted on the bike but am generally also trying to eliminate plastic from my life. It is hard. Will near Boston On Thursday, April 3, 2025 at 1:55:04 PM UTC-4 Ben Miller wrote: >

[RBW] Re: No More Plastic Water Bottles for Me

They can very easily be operated one-handed, perhaps ever more slightly then a plastic one since you don't have to squeeze it? But yeah, you can't squeeze them, unless you have some super-human grip. But in all seriousness, there is absolutely no need to squeeze them: you just open the spout li

[RBW] Re: No More Plastic Water Bottles for Me

Nearly everyone I know who's tried Bivo bottles are a convert. They do work well! Shannon: yes they can be used one-handed as readily as a plastic bottle, they do not squeeze but they have a dip tube so that water comes out of them quickly without squeezing. Takes a minute to adjust to, but

[RBW] Re: No More Plastic Water Bottles for Me

Can it be operated with one hand? Can it be squeezed? The 1st is a non-negotiable for me, and the other almost is. The large Specialized bottles were (are still?) the business. Worked great and were cheap, especially out of the big bin at J. Random Cyclery, full of bottles screen-printed with t

[RBW] Re: No More Plastic Water Bottles for Me

I purchased a Bivo bottle last holiday season from my LBS, with the intention of bringing it to a White Elephant party. I thought it was a good way to support my LBS, but also not super bike specific. Well, for reasons, I ended up not going to the party and I kept the Bivo and started using it.

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

I still truly believe the choco-moose bar feels exactly how I expected the albastash bar to feel and function. It's my favorite *slightly* aggressive but comfortable swept back bar. I could never quite dial in the albastache despite loving the aesthetics. On Friday, September 13, 2024 at 3:14:

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

Upon trying them I instantly realized I wanted more regular style drop bars instead, because they drop and have useful hand positions. On Tuesday, September 10, 2024 at 9:24:09 PM UTC-4 Bikie#4646 wrote: > Thanks for reviving this ol' thread Will. You know how much I love seeing > your beautif

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

Thanks for reviving this ol' thread Will. You know how much I love seeing your beautiful Cannondale regardless of handlebars. I happen to love the moustache bars on two of my purpose-built bikes, my Sam Hillborne set up for touring: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/53726655932/in/alb

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

It depends how you use them. If you spend 90% of the time upright with the hands near the back (which is why Russ probably like those mtn brakes) then you would want a longer stem. I would argue you probable want different bars too because there are a ton of great upright bars for that position.

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

So you didn't try a longer stem?! Sounds like you had it figured out but didn't follow through on your hunch. I have forever been baffled by the traditionally-spouted wisdom that, when swapping from drop bars to moustache/albastache bars, you need a shorter stem. I discovered long ago that

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

Revivin' an ol' thread! Thanks to all who contributed to this thread because it was about the only "review" 2-3 years ago when I was considering the Albastache. Some new reviews out: On the "love" vs. "no love" question, did you see that Zack Gallardo recently posted a video review with urban/

[RBW] Re: No love for the Riv Bull bar?

Thanks Johnny, I took your advice and the bike rides much better! I installed it almost as a flat bar and it's wonderful. Max On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 1:53:49 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote: > Because there is no rise I don't really see why they would need to be > angled at all but every r

[RBW] Re: No love for the Riv Bull bar?

Because there is no rise I don't really see why they would need to be angled at all but every rider is different. Whatever is comfortable to you. On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 10:34:07 AM UTC-4 maxcr wrote: > Who has experimented with Riv's Bull bar? It's in stock and perhaps > underappreci

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

One more... prompted by Will's email comment today of "properly set up Albastache bars" for long road rides. I keep wondering about best brake placement on these bars. In your opinion, does that mean brake levers are approximately tangent to the same plane, as in Will's picture of the bike they

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

I'm building up a new bike, custom Riv-inspired frame with RBW fork, and have assembled it enough to both pedal and brake. More to do, I need to get it shifting and the rear brake cabled, and wiring for lights... but right now it's been my first weekend riding it around the neighborhood and fid

[RBW] Re: No Group Pinning? Added "RBW-Ephemera" Tag. "Subscribe" is a thing

Thanks for tags, Jim, much appreciate it! On Saturday, January 2, 2021 at 2:05:48 PM UTC-5 Cyclofiend Jim wrote: > Just because I wasn't too clear in the first post above: > > "RBW-History" is now a LABEL you can use when discussing company/bike/bike > model history. > "RBW-Ephemera" is a LABEL

[RBW] Re: No Group Pinning? Added "RBW-Ephemera" Tag. "Subscribe" is a thing

Just because I wasn't too clear in the first post above: "RBW-History" is now a LABEL you can use when discussing company/bike/bike model history. "RBW-Ephemera" is a LABEL you can use to tag threads discussing Readers, GP Books, Catalogs, Flyers and other printed RBW material. "transactions-sel

[RBW] Re: No Group Pinning? Added "RBW-Ephemera" Tag. "Subscribe" is a thing

Thanks for the problem solving, Jim. I noticed the same thing yesterday when I wanted to dig into some Rivendell Readers and noticed that Reed's collection is no longer pinned at the top. Hopefully Google sorts this out, but if not, the tag is a reasonable workaround. Erik, Philly On Saturday,

[RBW] Re: No response from Riv ...

@ Patrick How gracious of you to offer the gift certificate back to RBW. Regarding email, I have noted ( with a lot of concern) how staff at RBW have cut their hours way back due to lack of steady cash flow. (Reference GP's Blahg.) On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 12:39:51 PM UTC-6, Patric

Re: [RBW] Re: No response from Riv ...

Ray and Ash, I found you suggestion and appreciation of said suggestion refreshing. Also benefited myself. No ideal why some of their (Riv’s) correspondence lands in my inbox and some ends in Spam. I will say I put Rivendell’s customer service in the top 1% of all businesses. Nuff said. Rya

Re: [RBW] Re: No response from Riv ...

Calling Riv is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you are going to get. I have called and Grant answers the phone and I have also called and gotten someone that was condescending and borderline rude. I still buy bikes (or more correctly frames) and parts from them, 12 at last count (

Re: [RBW] Re: No response from Riv ...

I purchased, own and ride a Rivendell bike. So I am a customer of Rivendell. What else would you call it? A supporter? In terms of my contribution to this thread, it was not a complaint, rather just sharing my personal experiences. Absolutely it did not detract from me purchasing a Rivendell bi

Re: [RBW] Re: No response from Riv ...

Ok, sorry to have assumed that was the case in your situation. I don't know the specifics of your interaction with Riv other than what you've explained, which is that you had less than satisfactory interactions, and bought a bike from not Rivendell. I assumed an order which I now know was incor

Re: [RBW] Re: No response from Riv ...

I don't even know what a "curt email" is. In my experience Riv emails are intentionally short and succinct..it prevents wordy confusion, plus whoever answers it is usually doing something in the shop at the same time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [RBW] Re: No response from Riv ...

Is the vine that tomatoes grow on called a tomafoot and is the plant called a tomafeet? On Sunday, March 3, 2019 at 8:30:20 PM UTC-8, sameness wrote: > > I dislike tomato soup. Which is weird, because I love marina sauce. And > without salsa, life would be a mistake. #notalltomatoes > > Jeff Hag

Re: [RBW] Re: No response from Riv ...

I dislike tomato soup. Which is weird, because I love marina sauce. And without salsa, life would be a mistake. #notalltomatoes Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this grou

Re: [RBW] Re: No response from Riv ...

I dislike assuming a critical customer's motivations as much as I do a complaint without full context. I think it's fair for everyone to take a breath, back away from their keyboards and go for a walk. [image: duty_calls.png] On Sunday, March 3, 2019 at 7:49:51 PM U

Re: [RBW] Re: No response from Riv ...

Perhaps it's best to understand the full picture before making such assertions, Darin. I had spoken to Rivendell for several weeks with every intention of purchasing and shipping a bike to Australia. In fact it was the lack of help/feedback from them that actually encouraged me to look elsewhere in

Re: [RBW] Re: No response from Riv ...

I think I remember that you bought your Clem used from a member here, right? I wouldn't expect much in response from any company about their goods I bought used. Rivendell's are unique and exciting and may make you want to reach out to them directly for help or whatever, but your purchase of th

Re: [RBW] Re: No response from Riv ...

Knowing what you asked about might explain the responses. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

Re: [RBW] Re: No response from Riv ...

Unfortunately the spam folder doesn't explain the curt responses ;) On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 10:09 AM Ash wrote: > Hi Ray, > > I can't thank you enough for this message! > > I thought I had understood Gmail, but apparently not. Every time (to just > Will's emails, but has happened in other occasi

Re: [RBW] Re: No response from Riv ...

Hi Ray, I can't thank you enough for this message! I thought I had understood Gmail, but apparently not. Every time (to just Will's emails, but has happened in other occasions too) I don't receive a response for an email, I would do a search assuming that the search included the spam folder.

Re: [RBW] Re: No response from Riv ...

Another thought: Be aware that it's terribly easy for us to pepper Riv - especially Grant - about Rivbikes (and Bridgestones) we bought used, and it doesn't relate to the business their in. I'm not saying they won't answer, but it probably isn't going to be a priority over customer inquiries.

Re: [RBW] Re: No response from Riv ...

Just a thought———-check your spam folders regularly. I find all sorts of emails in mine, oftentimes I find messages that I initially thought were not answered. Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

Re: [RBW] Re: No response from Riv ...

Sheesh, I’ve only had what would be described as amazing correspondence with any and everyone at Rivendell by phone or email and I’ve asked some really irrelevant questions. I’d imagine it’s a tech issue or a busyness issue. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Go

Re: [RBW] Re: No response from Riv ...

I get longish answers from Grant about this, that and the other thing sometimes; and sometimes not at all. He's made it clear on the Blahg he reads all the conversational (the only kind I send) email, but can't answer every one. I try to speak in a "this is what I think" way without asking a que

Re: [RBW] Re: No response from Riv ...

That's terrible to hear about curt responses! I've emailed with Roman about film and photography, with Grant about diet, and with anyone who will answer about orders, fit, etc. I understand that it's difficult to call from Australia. I have work colleagues there (I'm in Brooklyn, NY) and we obvious

[RBW] Re: No response from Riv ...

I have to agree. As much as I'm loving my rivendell bike, they were TERRIBLE at responding to my emails - slow response times, and curt responses. And it isn't as easy to just call them from Australia. On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 5:39:51 AM UTC+11, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I emailed some

Re: [RBW] Re: No response from Riv ...

I would assume you're correct about an outgoing email problem - I called recently and talked to Grant about a fender fit issue, so they're ready and willing to help via phone at least! On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 6:26 PM Toshi Takeuchi wrote: > > Hmm, I've emailed Grant, Will, and Jenny recently, and

Re: [RBW] Re: No response from Riv ...

Hmm, I've emailed Grant, Will, and Jenny recently, and it is fairly unusual for me not to receive a reply from anyone, so maybe there is an outgoing gmail problem with Riv. It was clear that they probably saw my email because they were able to accommodate my request regarding an order... Hmm. To

Re: [RBW] Re: No response from Riv ...

Thanks, Ash. Will call. On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 12:31 PM Ash wrote: > Patrick, > > There seems to be a problem with Will's email system. Better to call him. > > Yesterday I was at Rivendell HQ to pick up my new Appaloosa frame. I > mentioned to Will about my emails to him over last few months

[RBW] Re: No response from Riv ...

Patrick, There seems to be a problem with Will's email system. Better to call him. Yesterday I was at Rivendell HQ to pick up my new Appaloosa frame. I mentioned to Will about my emails to him over last few months to which I had not received response. He looked up the outbox on his laptop an

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

I have the Albastache handlebar and due to my broad shoulders I find it to be the perfect solution to the narrower moustache handlebars. They are so ergonomic that I cannot imagine my Rivendell without them as they offer multiple riding positions and help to make my Rosco Bubbe a great ride!

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

about 2" (40-50mm) shorter reach than what you normally ride with drop bars. On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 1:59:49 AM UTC-6, Joey Robinson wrote: > > Is there a good rule of thumb for how to change your stem when switching > to Albastache handlebars? > > Right now I run a 100 mm stem with

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

The advice I was given when I shifted from albatross to albastache was to drop the stem length 30mm. I went from a 110 to an 80 and that felt right. Not sure about shifting from drops but Riv probably has a suggestion. John (happy albastache rider for 3+ years) -- You received this message b

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

Is there a good rule of thumb for how to change your stem when switching to Albastache handlebars? Right now I run a 100 mm stem with 44 cm Nitto Noodles. Any suggestions for which length would be the best based off this info? On Tuesday, November 13, 2018 at 12:24:49 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: >

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

I do great/no probs on drops. Feel just as good at all heights/extensions tried. Any drop bar I have used good. Albas/Boscos good too. Its only the ‘staches I have trouble with. So that tells me its just my hands dont like it for whatever reason. -- You received this message because you are su

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

more likely, everyone's habits are different, and then there's use of core muscles - the only time we should be leaning on our hands is when we're braking. If you grab the bars in the wrong place, they're not going to work. If you set them up in the wrong place to begin with, it's hopeless.

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

I set mine up scrupulously according to RBW and Abele instructions to no avail. Everyone’s hands are different. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

I put Long distance on my moustache bars and love them - - I think most people use too great reach on their stem, don't angle their break levers downward correctly, and try to grab the bend of the bars rather than resting their palms on the straight sweep and onl

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

Thanks for WETH for the pic of his Cheviot and to Bill Lindsey for his recent review of Albastache bars on his Roadini in another post. I've followed this thread with interest because I've had an Albastache bar sitting in the garage since last spring and didn't know what to do with it. I've a

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

The higher the better when running stache bars, the pain happens when they're too low. I've tried most of Riv's bars (Alba, Choco, Bosco) thinking I'll like them but apparently upright isn't for me, the noodle was the only thing that worked for me until I got the the moustache up high enough (a

Re: [RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

Thanks. If there is less reach and the curves are closer in, they might actually work better with the Hon Solo, which can be set up with M bars either with too little reach or too much -- have to use a 2" extender if you don't want to perch the bar directly on the steerer mast. Will have to check t

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

I tried them for close to 1,000 miles so I think I gave them a fair shake. At first I liked them but the more I rode them the less I liked them. No matter how I angled them or raised or lowered them, it just wasn’t right. What didn’t I like? Well there were indeed many hand positions but non

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

I don't really do any rides longer than 50 miles, so, I guess I don't know if I'd love them on all day rides. But for what I do, Albastaches are my favorite for 'high energy' riding. I built myself out of a bike for them a couple year ago when I got the Clem and found I didn't actually like them

Re: [RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

I love my Albastache on my Cheviot. It is the only non-drop bar single bike that I own. My brakes are on the curves up at the front of the bar. The stem I use is 2 cm shorter than my drop bar stems. With my hands at the curves up at the front of the bar, it feels much like my drop bar road bike-

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

Patrick, the original moustaches always felt too narrow for me & the way they jutted forward was awkward. On the second year XO's they addressed this with dummy lever bodies on the bar; I imagine that helped a lot, but I never got round to retrofitting mine. The Albastache doesn't seem to bend

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

I agree. I tried the original Moustache and hand pain would start in first 1/2 mile of rides. Pain pain pain. No matter where on the bar I'd grip, pressure point on the exact same spot, no variation, at least for me. Gave it a month. Never tried any 'stache iteration since. But for some people

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

Very much looking forward to reading that ride report! On Tuesday, 6 November 2018 11:49:11 UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > I just did a 200k on my Leo Roadini. An upcoming addition to the stable > has afforded me the opportunity to reconfigure the Leo Roadini in a couple > different ways. To

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

I just did a 200k on my Leo Roadini. An upcoming addition to the stable has afforded me the opportunity to reconfigure the Leo Roadini in a couple different ways. Towards that, I just purchased an Albastache bar and I'm considering putting it on the Leo Roadini immediately and doing the Decem

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

Hey Mat! Mittens and Albastache play really well together for me. I don’t even mess with gloves anymore. I ride single track in the just fine, though I don’t push the downhill speed with mittens on. Downhill jouncy is the tricky bit, and so long as I’m slow enough works great! With abandon, Pat

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

Any folks who were comfortable with drop bars move to the Albastache? If so, what changes to stem length and height did you make? I greatly enjoy my Maes Parallel bars, but it gets less comfortable when wearing mittens. Gloves wouldn't be an issue, but poor circulation in my fingers always fo

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

Another Albastache lover here! I've got them mounted on a Dirt Drop stem on my Crust Romanceur. Excellent bar for those of us who get no comfort from drops. I find them much more functional than a drop bar anyway as they provide better leverage when climbing. As others have mentioned, proper se

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

I picked up an original moustache from Riv when they were clearing out remaining stock in anticipation of the Albastache. It did not work on a few initial builds (too low or too far) but I eventually found a sweet spot on two different frames. I had a similar experience with trekking butterfly

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

Love my albastache. But 100% agree on setup, gotta get it right or they dont jive. High and tight is the best way either dirt drop or one of the really cool Wright stems from analog...I got it about 99% of the way there with a short tech delux, but a bit to much quill exposed for my taste. Just

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

The Moustache Handlebar - Grant told me he says the whole name 'cause it's a riff on handlebar moustache - on the Bstone XO-1 is what drew me into bikes around 1992, I thought it was the coolest thing! But alas I've tried every variation of them since and my hands/wrists just can't do it. Oh wel

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

I will caution that stem length & height are more important with a moustache style bar then any other bar! Too long of a stem or incorrect bar height; even as little as 5mm can totally have a negative effect on your moustache bar experience. Too long of a stem & the steering gets funny. Too low

[RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

Funny timing... I've been tossing around the idea of buying an Albastache for the past two days and decided this morning that I'm going to pick one up! Just waiting for Riv to open so I can call and find out how to redeem my hail mary... I'm picking up a pair because I feel like I lie directly

[RBW] Re: No more cheap bikes from China

I dont remember being asked not to discuss it. Sorry for bringing it up. Maybe they should remove it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-ow

[RBW] Re: No more cheap bikes from China

I thought we were asked not to discuss that thread in other threads. I am interested in what the upshot of the Clinton tariffs were. They didn’t appear to bring back US manufacturing. Can anyone recommend an interesting (not dull) book on the history of US trade? I can recommend “The Republic

[RBW] Re: No more cheap bikes from China

Twitter is awesome! Oh, this isn't Twitter. Never mind! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To pos

[RBW] Re: No more cheap bikes from China

Should be deleted, but probly wont. I refer you to: this recent thread that was massively political because the rivcontent was diagnosed as something Grant wrote, lotsa peeps thought it was fair game for the forum. And it never got deleted. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners

Re: [RBW] Re: No more cheap bikes from China

Doug, I like bikes as well. Be sure to ride today. On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:30 PM Doug H. wrote: > I like bikes... > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] Re: No more cheap bikes from China

I like bikes... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owner

[RBW] Re: No more cheap bikes from China

I asked Jim to delete. Sorry all - really just thought it was interesting from a historical standpoint, and didn't want it to degenerate. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving ema

[RBW] Re: No more cheap bikes from China

Yes doubly Please , no politics period ! https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/WJD0tP3PT9Y -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an emai

[RBW] Re: No more cheap bikes from China

Please please please no political stuff on the RBWOB. > > Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+

[RBW] Re: No more cheap bikes from China

Agreed and no doubt that the democrats co-opted the fiscal/budget responsibility issue at that time, that they then claimed the high ground, or that they have largely retained it since. My intention really isn't to argue sides. The deja vu thing was the main reason I posted, but I do find it

[RBW] Re: No more cheap bikes from China

Dont matter which party in office. All the same. The little guy will always foot the bill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+u

[RBW] Re: No more cheap bikes from China

you got it backwards - Republican issues became White House action during the Clinton Administration - balancing the budget - something democrats would never have considered before. Clinton did one thing right - he used the polls get his mandate and make his choices during president - honestly

[RBW] Re: No Ordinary Rides

You've reminded me that every ride has something to say if we take the time to listen. Thanks for the reminder. dougP On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 10:08:33 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > In which the gift of every ride is celebrated, however small. > https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/no-or

[RBW] Re: No Ordinary Rides

Thanks for all your great riding pics. And have a wonderful new year. On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 10:08:33 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > In which the gift of every ride is celebrated, however small. > https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/no-ordinary-rides > > With abandon, > Patrick > > www.Cr

[RBW] Re: No More Rambouillet Decals @ RBW

Thanks again to everyone for the ideas and offers. I think I have it nailed down -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...

[RBW] Re: No More Rambouillet Decals @ RBW

Hate to hear that about the Ram decals, but they aren't that hard to copy and there are a few places online that will do it. I like the traditional minimalist decal approach used on Rivs. However, knowing that may prompt me to cover the decals on my orange Ram with 3M clear protective tape. Th

Re: [RBW] Re: No More Rambouillet Decals @ RBW

Bruce, I'll confirm what Steve said about cut vinyl for graphics. Works well. I used them on a Surly Cross Check single speed after I stripped all the existing graphics. If you have a sign shop nearby you could give them a digital file of whatever you can obtain or create and they could produce

Re: [RBW] Re: No More Rambouillet Decals @ RBW

Great idea Steve. Thanks On Thursday, November 2, 2017, 5:16:47 AM CDT, islaysteve wrote: Bruce, I responded your request or info on the Old Man Petersen decal on that thread.  I have also fashioned a seat tube decal using self-stick vinyl sheet cut into a diamond shape, with one of r

[RBW] Re: No More Rambouillet Decals @ RBW

Bruce, I responded your request or info on the Old Man Petersen decal on that thread. I have also fashioned a seat tube decal using self-stick vinyl sheet cut into a diamond shape, with one of round RBW logo patches in center. Looks quite good IMO, and is removable at any time with no damage

[RBW] Re: No More Rambouillet Decals @ RBW

Thanks for the suggestions everyone. Right now, I'm leaning to just something on the seat tube. I've asked Roman at Riv about that, and will check with Norman Bone on his decal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscr

[RBW] Re: No More Rambouillet Decals @ RBW

Have a painter make a template and paint them on. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to t

[RBW] Re: No More Rambouillet Decals @ RBW

It may cost more, but decals can easily be copied. On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 4:06:41 PM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote: > > I'm readying my blue Ram for a re-paint (going green this time) and > emailed Roman about decals. He reports none left and they don't have the > graphics files. Actually,

[RBW] Re: No More Rambouillet Decals @ RBW

Well you could always go with the Resurrecto Decals which are really cool. I would leave off the downtube and just use the head and seat tube. https://www.rivbike.com/products/resurrectio-decals On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 7:06:41 PM UTC-4, Fullylugged wrote: > > I'm readying my blue Ram for a

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