[RBW] Re: New Pacenti 650b tire

2009-09-01 Thread Aaron Thomas
For those still interested in bringing the Pacenti Pari-Moto 650x38B to fruition, Kirk posted the following on the 650B list today: Dear list members, I have decided that if we can hit 150 pairs of tires by the end of the week, I will pick up the slack and buy the rest of the tires myself for st

[RBW] Re: New Pacenti 650b tire

2009-08-05 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 19:02 -0600, Ryan Watson wrote: > > My longest ever flat-free streak was on Hetres, and well-worn ones at > that.. > Worst were Ruffy Tuffies, which is suprising since flat resistance is > supposedly one of their virtues. > Could just be variability in the local goathead cr

[RBW] Re: New Pacenti 650b tire

2009-08-05 Thread Ryan Watson
On Aug 5, 2009, at 18:22, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 18:53 -0500, Tim McNamara wrote: > >> Yes. They have thicker rubber, more hysteresis losses and higher >> rolling resistance. "Puncture resistant" and "fast" are pretty much >> antithetical when it comes to bike tire

[RBW] Re: New Pacenti 650b tire

2009-08-05 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 18:53 -0500, Tim McNamara wrote: > Yes. They have thicker rubber, more hysteresis losses and higher > rolling resistance. "Puncture resistant" and "fast" are pretty much > antithetical when it comes to bike tires. The rider can make their > choice about their priori

[RBW] Re: New Pacenti 650b tire

2009-08-05 Thread EricP
Gotta agree here. Switching from the Pasela 35 to the Supreme 40 on the Hillborne was a big difference. At first I though the tires were a touch slower. But my overall riding times since putting them on have been the same. Or (dare I say it), even a touch faster. As for flat resistance, my wo

[RBW] Re: New Pacenti 650b tire

2009-08-05 Thread Tim McNamara
On Aug 5, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 14:14 -0700, Garth wrote: >> >> When it comes to puncture resistance . . .how we forget how easily >> even auto tires with steel belts get nails driven through them. >> >> We are supposed to believe a bicycle tire c

[RBW] Re: New Pacenti 650b tire

2009-08-05 Thread Tim McNamara
On Aug 5, 2009, at 2:28 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Gino Zahnd wrote: >> Hey Folks - >> >> >> Note: I have no ties to Kirk. I just want to see available 650b >> options >> continue to grow, and a 38mm fast roadish tire would fill a >> current gap. > > > I don't

[RBW] Re: New Pacenti 650b tire

2009-08-05 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 14:14 -0700, Garth wrote: > > When it comes to puncture resistance . . .how we forget how easily > even auto tires with steel belts get nails driven through them. > > We are supposed to believe a bicycle tire can be puncture proof? > Solid rubber maybe . . . but so mu

[RBW] Re: New Pacenti 650b tire

2009-08-05 Thread Garth
When it comes to puncture resistance . . .how we forget how easily even auto tires with steel belts get nails driven through them. We are supposed to believe a bicycle tire can be puncture proof? Solid rubber maybe . . . but so much for your ride :) --~--~-~--~~~---

[RBW] Re: New Pacenti 650b tire

2009-08-05 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I see that Schwalbe has the Marathon Racer in 700x38. Lighter by a slim margin than the Supreme 700x35. (430g compared to 440g). Sounds like a fun tire. I'm pretty happy with the Supremes at the moment, but haven't found them to be "bulletproof", exactly. Jim On Aug 5, 3:12 pm, Seth Vidal wrote:

[RBW] Re: New Pacenti 650b tire

2009-08-05 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Grant Petersen wrote: > Sch Mara Supreme 35s. Coly How! or the 40s. The 41s can measure anywhere btw > 36 and 40, dpndn on the rim. On Keven's Open Pros: 36. On Synergy rims. > about 40. Wider rims make wider tires. More so than I used to believe even > 200 days ago

[RBW] Re: New Pacenti 650b tire

2009-08-05 Thread Grant Petersen
Sch Mara Supreme 35s. Coly How! or the 40s. The 41s can measure anywhere btw 36 and 40, dpndn on the rim. On Keven's Open Pros: 36. On Synergy rims. about 40. Wider rims make wider tires. More so than I used to believe even 200 days ago. G On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote:

[RBW] Re: New Pacenti 650b tire

2009-08-05 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 15:28 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Gino Zahnd wrote: > > Hey Folks - > > > > > > Note: I have no ties to Kirk. I just want to see available 650b options > > continue to grow, and a 38mm fast roadish tire would fill a current gap. > > > I don't

[RBW] Re: New Pacenti 650b tire

2009-08-05 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Gino Zahnd wrote: > Hey Folks - > > > Note: I have no ties to Kirk. I just want to see available 650b options > continue to grow, and a 38mm fast roadish tire would fill a current gap. I don't have any 650b bikes (yet) but I'm curious - are there any fast roadish