[RBW] Re: Lower d'bars

2010-04-17 Thread happyriding
On Apr 17, 12:10 pm, James Warren wrote: > I concur. Look at the Toupe saddle on my orange Ram: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/46035...@n07/4228790514/ > Wow. What a picture! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to t

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower d'bars

2010-04-17 Thread James Warren
ent: Apr 17, 2010 7:20 PM >To: RBW Owners Bunch >Subject: [RBW] Re: Lower d'bars > >Nathan - I did intend to tilt the B17 forward a bit... but so far, it >feels fine. > >Esteban >San Diego, Calif. > >On Apr 17, 6:32 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: >> I mean, Two Inch

[RBW] Re: Lower d'bars

2010-04-17 Thread happyriding
On Apr 17, 2:29 pm, Me wrote: > At 164 pounds these days, I can ride in a lot of different positions > with zero problems or any inklings of aches or pains. > The other side of the coin: I have never ridden without neck and back ache. I've been searching for 15+ years, and I haven't found a solu

[RBW] Re: Lower d'bars

2010-04-17 Thread happyriding
On Apr 17, 11:10 am, Mike wrote: > > Be careful with the Brooks saddle. I've ever found the B17 to be > > comfortable on long rides with lower bars. I don't think the saddle is > > ideal for that. The raise the bars philosophy works with the "B17s are the > > greatest saddles in the world" phil

[RBW] Re: Lower d'bars

2010-04-17 Thread happyriding
I love the way the dark honey leather (and shellac?) contrasts with the blue. Beautiful. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group,

[RBW] Re: Lower d'bars

2010-04-17 Thread happyriding
On Apr 17, 10:47 am, Esteban wrote: > OK.  I know this is blasphemy on this list... but upon Aaron's urging, > I've lowered the bars on the Romulus.  I've been riding it comfortably > with the h'bars about 1-2cm below the saddle.  I lowered it to about > 6cm below to see how it would feel. > You

[RBW] Re: Lower d'bars

2010-04-17 Thread Esteban
Nathan - I did intend to tilt the B17 forward a bit... but so far, it feels fine. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Apr 17, 6:32 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > I mean, Two Inches below saddle, about 5 cm. > > > > On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:28 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 12:55 P

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower d'bars

2010-04-17 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I mean, Two Inches below saddle, about 5 cm. On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:28 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 12:55 PM, charlie wrote: > >> I think it all depends on how long your arms and torso are relative to >> your height not forgetting your age, weight and flexibility. >>

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower d'bars

2010-04-17 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 12:55 PM, charlie wrote: > I think it all depends on how long your arms and torso are relative to > your height not forgetting your age, weight and flexibility. > > I've got my bars 2 cm below saddle on all my bikes except the Sam Hill and the Monocog (1/2 - 1 cm higher, b

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower d'bars

2010-04-17 Thread James Warren
Totally. But after 15 years of working on and setting up bikes and buying the occasional stem and bar, now when I get to work on a bike set up, my own stem and handlebar stash is a bit like going to a "retro" bike shop. So many combinations: "Hmm I've never tried the Nitto Dynamic II and dirtdr

[RBW] Re: Lower d'bars

2010-04-17 Thread doug peterson
Aaron's pretty subversive. Should we brand him a heretic now or wait until the next So Cal ride? Oh, wait; almost forgot - any bike, any time. We'll make him the "designated carbon rider". Seriously, the whole issue of bike fit is so complex, with so many contradictory theories, it's best to ke

[RBW] Re: Lower d'bars

2010-04-17 Thread Me
Lower handlebars has been one of those things I forgot to try as I became smaller, more flexible and more fit. It finally hit me that I might/could/should... and -then- did. It feels very good. I started out with my bars VERY high compared to saddle height. At 501 pounds it was necessary. Slow

[RBW] Re: Lower d'bars

2010-04-17 Thread charlie
I think it all depends on how long your arms and torso are relative to your height not forgetting your age, weight and flexibility. I know I have short arms, am overweight, old and inflexible so my bikes are all odd looking to most with a bar height of 2- 3 cm higher than the saddle. I'm fine with

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower d'bars

2010-04-17 Thread James Warren
I concur. Look at the Toupe saddle on my orange Ram: http://www.flickr.com/photos/46035...@n07/4228026345/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/46035...@n07/4228790514/ And on a slightly loaded overnighter bike! It's one of those saddles that comes in a slightly wider but not too wide size. I like it.

[RBW] Re: Lower d'bars

2010-04-17 Thread Aaron Thomas
Hey, man, I've already slid down that slope, and it ain't all that bad. Really. Actually, it's a rather fun slide! I know what Joe is saying about the B17. I found the same thing when I moved from bars-above-saddle to bars-below-saddle. The solution (or solutions) were simple: first tried a Brooks

[RBW] Re: Lower d'bars

2010-04-17 Thread Mike
> > Be careful with the Brooks saddle. I've ever found the B17 to be comfortable > on long rides with lower bars. I don't think the saddle is ideal for that. > The raise the bars philosophy works with the "B17s are the greatest saddles > in the world" philosophy pretty well, but it's hard to ch

[RBW] Re: Lower d'bars

2010-04-17 Thread Mike
I mentioned it on your flickr page and I'll repeat it here: you're on a slippery slope my friend. What's next? Cycling shoes and "clipless" pedals? Bib shorts? No fenders? No bags or racks? I no how it goes and it's okay. Kinda nice to have a simple quick unencumbered road machine. Enjoy. --mike