What I've always wondered about straight pull vs. J-bend spokes is the
risk/benefit comparison.
The fixtures necessary to create on the straight pull hub that receive
force concentrated by the head of the spoke need to be more robust than a
conventional drilled hub flange. They have greater co
Spoke tension wasn't an issue until hubs with wR went down to ridiculous
level. On one of my recent builds I discovered that the non-drive side was
definitely too loose if I tensioned the drive side to Velocity's specs. So
I made the decision to just tension the spokes to beyond velocity's specs
fo
Totally agree with John's wheels. If I didn't like building wheels so
much, I'd buy his for sure.
As far as spoke tension imbalance, I'll reserve judgement until I have a
problem. Currently, I have 8 bikes with 9+ speed freehubs. I've never had
a spoke tension related problem with any, inclu
John at Neugent Cycles strikes me as "the real deal" with the right
connections and knowledge of modern wheel-building practices. Plus I could
be wrong but I think he's building these wheels himself, regardless they're
hand-built here stateside. (He let me mail some SimWorks' raw brass nipples
Andrew is correct. I made a mistake --- the washers are on the drive side,
not the non-drive side.
On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 10:20 AM Andrew Turner
wrote:
> Washers are put on the drive-side rear spokes.
>
> Andrew
>
> On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 12:16:43 PM UTC-6 lconley wrote:
>
>> So if the
Washers are put on the drive-side rear spokes.
Andrew
On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 12:16:43 PM UTC-6 lconley wrote:
> So if the drive side spokes have higher tension, why are the washers put
> on the non-drive side spokes? Again, makes no sense to me.
>
> Laing
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 17,
So if the drive side spokes have higher tension, why are the washers put on
the non-drive side spokes? Again, makes no sense to me.
Laing
On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 10:20:40 AM UTC-5 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
The drive side still has higher tension, and the way to get durable wheels
is to get
If you feel that your wheels are already plenty strong and durable enough,
sure. But what I've discovered over the years is that hubs have gotten
their wR smaller and smaller, which reduces the bracing angle and increases
the difference in tension between drive and non-drive side wheels.
https://b
I wonder when we'll see a new Gus Boots Willsen build with a 16/8 rear
wheel?
Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 7:59:15 AM UTC-8 wboe...@gmail.com wrote:
> Not a huge fan of the 16/8 idea for this reason. Seems like a solution in
> search of a problem.
>
>
>
> On T
Not a huge fan of the 16/8 idea for this reason. Seems like a solution in
search of a problem.
On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 10:20 AM Piaw Na(藍俊彪) wrote:
> The drive side still has higher tension, and the way to get durable wheels
> is to get high tension without cracking the rim. The washers sprea
The drive side still has higher tension, and the way to get durable wheels
is to get high tension without cracking the rim. The washers spread the
load of the spoke nipple over a wider area and prevents the rim from
cracking. With lowish spoke count wheels and dished wheels, you can easily
exceed t
So if the spoke tension is equal on both sides, why would one side need
washers? Makes no sense to me.
Laing
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 4:44:22 PM UTC-5 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
> I would consider Ted Neugent's wheels:
> http://www.neugentcycling.com/Alloy-Wheels.html
>
> The TwoX technology
DT Swiss 240 to a 450g rim (Archetype, DT 450, Kinlin TL-21, etc) all day
long. I own 2 sets of these - bombproof and light. All parts can be
easily found (no proprietary badged hubs that you need bearings for 10
years down the road and cannot find). J-bend spokes for the win. ERD of
the st
Wow yes, these look fantastic on paper. I actually went ahead and pulled
the trigger on a set of them so I suppose we'll both see how things go.
Thanks for the tip!!
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 3:44:22 PM UTC-6 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
> I would consider Ted Neugent's wheels:
> http://www.neug
I would consider Ted Neugent's
wheels: http://www.neugentcycling.com/Alloy-Wheels.html
The TwoX technology (16 drive side spokes, 8 non-drive side spokes so you
can have equal tension of spokes on both sides, with washers on the
non-drive side so you can tension them safely without the rim crac
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