> Regarding the "many urban riders", the other part of Grant's editorial
> that hasn't come up was the notion that "bad apple" riders ignoring
> the traffic laws somehow "ruins it for the rest of us". Grant called
> that notion into question, and I think he has a good point. It caused
> me to ret
On Jan 20, 10:25 am, William wrote:
> I think the comment that missed the mark was BSNYC's. I think he too
> would advocate, and practices, the Idaho stop when the situation calls
> for it. But his comment was more of a hardline.
Just to clarify: the BikeSnob post mentioned was actually about
> "I had to ride slow because I was taking my guerrilla route, the one I
> follow when I assume that everyone in a car is out to get me."
> -- Neal Stephenson, "Zodiac"
That definitely should be my mantra.
I have to take Fountain Ave, Eastside to the Westside, to work in LA.
Part of my route is
For the record, I'm not an anarchist. I'll repeat what I said: "In
Manhattan, at 3AM, when there's not another car on the road, Idaho
stop YES!" If there are cars on the road, then you are in traffic,
follow the traffic laws. That's what makes sense.
ANY situation where there are ZERO other ve
> I think the Idaho stop makes sense EVERYWHERE that it makes sense.
Who decides where it makes sense? Unfortunately there are many urban
riders who appear to think an Idaho stop makes sense if traffic with
the right of way theoretically can brake fast enough to avoid T-boning
or rear ending them
I think the Idaho stop makes sense EVERYWHERE that it makes sense. In
Manhattan, at 3AM, when there's not another car on the road, Idaho
stop YES! In Couer d'Alene Idaho, when you approach a stop sign with
a long line of cars waiting in the crossing direction, Idaho stop NO!
I think the comment t
Thanks Grant. I did not see the conflict between your editorial and
BSNYC's post.
The point is that laws and cycling behavior is best suited when it
conforms to the locale. Insisting cyclists scrupulously come to a
full stop at a rural intersection no matter the traffic volume is
silly. On the
