[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne

2011-07-27 Thread Geoff
My first "recent history" experience with high profile canti brakes was when I test rode an Atlantis. It was the first demo bike they could find in my size that had a Bullmoose bar, which I wanted to try to see if I liked it. The first thing I noticed(beside the fact that the bike was a blast

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne

2011-07-26 Thread Joe Bernard
Porsche green, eh? That's funny, I just emailed Grant a couple days ago that the color reminded me of Pescarolo, a team that runs a car in the 24 Hours of Le Mans. After reading your post, I Googled "Porsche green", and came up with a vast "green Porsches" collection. Yep, it looks like a mid-'6

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne

2011-07-26 Thread Joe Bernard
My preference for cantis is purely from familiarity; I can set them up in my sleep. I've also developed a bit of nostalgia for the "CNC era" selection shown in the BikePro Buyer's Guide..the stuff that was flushed by the arrival of XTR V-brakes. Incidentally, in spite of the fact that V-brakes

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne

2011-07-26 Thread charlie
Ya know its odd how some of us prefer cantis and others side/center pulls..I really like the ease of set up and brake pad switching of the side/centerpull brakes over cantis. I've owned/own both and don't see a difference in performance for the way I ride. Cantis seem fine for a bike make for r

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne

2011-07-26 Thread Joe Bernard
Nah, my mountain biking would be reserved for gentle trails. I have an old Cannondale if I ever want to fall over on singletrack at China Camp again. And long distance is happily reserved for a big ole recumbent trike seat. It looks like I'll still be resorting to picking a color..assuming I eve

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne

2011-07-26 Thread Norman
I'm 5'8" and have a PBH of 80. I have and love my 52 Sam (Waterford.) There's plenty of standover room and allows for higher bars (I have drops on it.) If I had unlimited cash (and storage), I'd think about getting a Hunq. or Bombadil, and probably an Atlantis. But for one bike, I'm glad I made

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne

2011-07-26 Thread Joe Bernard
Thanks for all the responses, everybody, it's been very helpful. I've avoided the topic, but many of you realize I'm minutes away from RBW, and are promoting test rides, which may seem obvious. I won't bore you with the details, but my situation makes that difficult (Google Aspergers if you're

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne

2011-07-26 Thread Seth Vidal
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Bruce Baker wrote: > Hey everybody Mountainsports is in VA not TN. > Mountain Sports is located at 1021 Commonwealth Avenue, Bristol, VA 24201. > Get Directions > Bristol, TN and Bristol, VA are the same city. MSL is on the VA side of state street, true - but

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne

2011-07-26 Thread Bruce Baker
Hey everybody Mountainsports is in VA not TN. Mountain Sports is located at 1021 Commonwealth Avenue, Bristol, VA 24201. Get Directions Phone *276.466.8988* Store Hours Monday - Friday: 10 am - 7

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne

2011-07-26 Thread Bruce Baker
I don't think any of you should over analyze this buy one of each!! If any of you are interested in the old green Sam Hillborne Mountain sports in Bristol, TN has some frames. I bought a 56 cm from them about 6 months ago. They bought alot of frames when they first came out. On Tue, Jul 26, 201

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne

2011-07-26 Thread Leslie
I don't think the sidepull/cantilever difference is so much in performance, but in clearance: If you have a really fat knobby tire, you might have to deflate it to get it out of a sidepull, even one with a quick-release to widen the mouth; whereas a cantilever or a v-brake is going to open up

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne

2011-07-26 Thread Jeff H
I am also in the process of making the same decison: Hunq or Hilborne.. my PBH is around 85... budget is $3500... use is off and on road... I was there yesterday, Mon. July 25, prepared to make a decision leaning a bit more to the Hillborne when I was made aware of a couple changes on the Hillbor

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne

2011-07-26 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Oh, to be able to go to Riv! Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/5usqFVsod_kJ. To post to this group, send em

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne

2011-07-26 Thread Zack
I had this same quandary in May. I went to Riv, which was awesome and fun and totally worth it, and rode them both. They are both fantastic bikes. I ended up going with the Hillborne just because it felt more like bikes that I am used to riding (only way, way better). For the record, I am

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne

2011-07-25 Thread Geoff
Hi Joe, Well, you know I went with the Hunq. I love it, and I only ride on smooth paved roads. I didn't really need the slightly stouter tubing, but it didn't matter. The Hunq rides beautifully on paved roads with the Schwalbe 700 x 50 Big Apples I have on it. It doesn't feel sluggish at al

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne

2011-07-25 Thread Mike
> That green SH sure looks good to me.  I am contemplating that one myself to > add to the Rodeo and SimpleOne.  > > Dave Nawrocki > That would be a pretty complete Riv quiver. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To pos

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne

2011-07-25 Thread Seth
Joe, I have a 60cm Hillborne and really like its versatility. Depending on mood and setting, I can any tire from a 50mm Supremes to a 28mm Rolly- polly (no fenders in LA). The geometry is great on hills, trails as well as the road. I usually ride with a Berthoud Tall handlebar bag which works w

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne

2011-07-25 Thread charlie
Making a 130 fit into 135 is no biggie..aside from that at 170 pounds I think a Hillborne would be fine if you are primarily a road rider.if a dirt dabbler the Hunqua would be my choice as a better all rounder but then I am finally now at a mere 258 and dropping. Any of the Rive bikes can b

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne

2011-07-25 Thread William
Yes, they both are 135mm. You are good to go! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7iScHF8eWoYJ. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne

2011-07-25 Thread Joe Bernard
It's a 135 8-speed, not the original CB-Zip wheel. I believe the Sam and Hunqapillar are both 135, but I'll double check. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne

2011-07-25 Thread William
Double check to make sure your CB-Zip rear wheel is 135mm or plan on spacing it out. You don't want to be forcing a 130mm rear wheel into a nice new Rivendell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on t

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne

2011-07-25 Thread Scotty
Personally, I think the Hunqapillar may just be the prettiest thing on 2 wheels. I just love the looks of that bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne

2011-07-25 Thread Joe Bernard
Yep, that's a tough one for me. I prefer 26-inch wheels, and have a nice set ready to transfer from my CB-Zip to the Hunqapillar (sorry, I can't bring myself to say "Hunqa". Reminds me of an Elvis song). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners B

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne

2011-07-25 Thread William
Small Hunqa's run 26" wheels, while small Sam's run 650B. I'd think that would drive many folks' decision one way or the other. I'm a fan of 650B, but it will be easier to get 4 or 5 really cool different sets of tires to run on your Hunqa to give it a wide range of personalities. -- You r

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne

2011-07-25 Thread Garth
The Hunqapillar !Have you ridden wider tires? Once I got a Bombadil . my desire to ride even 35mm tires on my road bike has gone by the wayside... and don't even ride it these days. Now I want another Riv Hunqapillar or Sam I thought for about a day! Hunqapillar was an easy

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Hillborne

2011-07-25 Thread newenglandbike
Both are made for everything up to and including fully-loaded touring, so you could go either way.Definitely do a test ride if you can though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit htt