[RBW] Re: Hillborne or Hunqapillar

2010-08-09 Thread Garth
Ernie , For perspective ... of course you're going to hear that the Sam frame is best for you because people here have them, I don't think anyone owns a Hunqapillar yet. Who's going to tell you how great it is if they don't own it? I ride the Bombadil on the road with 42mm tires and it doesn't

Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne or Hunqapillar

2010-08-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 9:55 PM, ewb wrote: > However, I am a little concerned by the posts that > I've read (by a small minority of owners) that the Hillborne ride > quality can degrade under load; the fact that the latest version of > the Waterford 56cm Hillborne has 2 top tubes seems to confir

[RBW] Re: Hillborne or Hunqapillar

2010-08-08 Thread ewb
Thank you everyone for your helpful comments. I should have said in my original post that I have a Merlin Cyrene, which I like for riding roads. However, I cannot carry any load and I am limited to 700c x 28 tires. I also have a mountain bike, but I may cannibalize it to build up either the Hill

Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne or Hunqapillar

2010-08-08 Thread Fai Mao
I go with the Hillborne too. You should buy a bike that are you are going to ride not one you might like to ride. Unless you have an actual non-supported long distance tour setup then the Sam is the better bike. I rode mine from Hong Kong to Shanghai this past summer and don't think that I could h

[RBW] Re: Hillborne or Hunqapillar

2010-08-07 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Hey. I'd go Hillborne. Presuming the 10% non-road riding you describe is *not* actual single-track, intentional-impediment, ascend/descend barely-a-trail mountain-brand mountain biking, then the Hillborne is well suited for your described riding. If the 10% *is* that sort of riding, go Hunqa or B

[RBW] Re: Hillborne or Hunqapillar

2010-08-07 Thread Mike
Hey Ernie, I think Joel makes a good point about wheels and tires having a significant effect on how the bike feels. It does seem like the Hillborne is designed around mid sized tires (32 to 44) as oppoesed the Hunqa which is designed around larger tires. Doesn't it say somewhere that the smallest

[RBW] Re: Hillborne or Hunqapillar

2010-08-07 Thread EricP
Have a Hillborne. Currently weigh 220. Last year, when I got the bike, was closer to 240. Did a couple of S24O camping trips with about 20 pounds or so of stuff. No problem. Then again, Patrick Moore has loaded his Hillborne up with 50 plus pounds added to whatever his weight is (170ish?) and

[RBW] Re: Hillborne or Hunqapillar

2010-08-07 Thread Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles
I agree with Johnny ... what you described is the target use for the Hillborne. The Hillborne certainly rides well on the pavement and gravel. My suggestion is to consider the double top-tube version available in the 56cm+ sizes. With the extra toptube, I don't think the total weight of rider + g

[RBW] Re: Hillborne or Hunqapillar

2010-08-07 Thread Johnny Alien
I think your description is exactly what the Hillborne is all about. 90% road with the ability to do light loads and GREAT for light off road rails trails and such. The Hunqapillar can be made quicker but is still designed to be a trail/heavy touring bike. The only thing that would worry me is tha

[RBW] Re: Hillborne or Hunqapillar

2010-08-07 Thread JoelMatthews
> One concern that I have is whether the extra stoutness of the Hunqapillar >will make it more sluggish (less > zippy) than the Hillborne. Riding characteristics are influenced far more by the geometry and choice of tires/wheels. Assuming the geometry and specs are close, you can make the Hunq a

[RBW] Re: Hillborne or Hunqapillar

2010-08-06 Thread rcnute
I briefly had an Atlantis and test rode a Hillborne. Both unloaded. I liked the feel of the Hillborne better--lighter and less stiff. Ryan On Aug 6, 8:54 pm, ewb wrote: > I am trying to decide whether to purchase a Sam Hillborne or > Hunqapillar. > > I currently do 90% of my riding on the road