[RBW] Re: Help needed from the collective mind.

2013-09-17 Thread Clayton
Update on my possible fix. Aerobars. I found two sets of aerobars for > sale at the local used sporting goods store. Both were broken at different > spots. On one, the bar extensions were jammed, but had good pads and the > other had bad pads. I paid $30.00 for both and frankensteined them

[RBW] Re: Help needed from the collective mind.

2013-09-17 Thread Clayton
Thanks James! I think the aerobars are going to work. On Friday, August 30, 2013 7:38:57 AM UTC-7, James Philip wrote: > > Hi Clayton, > > Sorry to hear about the condition. I hope this helps - while out on the > road a few weeks back, I met gentleman who "apologized" for his triathlon > aero-ba

[RBW] Re: Help needed from the collective mind.

2013-09-01 Thread Clayton
Again, I want to thank all of you for taking the time to post your advice. > It is deeply and sincerely appreciated. I wish I could buy everyone coffee > and maple bars. Or a beer. I love this group. Nice people and a great > resource. Thanks again. > -- You received this message because

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2013-08-31 Thread Deacon Patrick
Or a large diameter grip that is not padded. I love my cork grips covered with cotton tape. Amazing conductivity of the road/trail and my big hands are happy. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, August 31, 2013 11:06:18 AM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: > > Yeah... I was just going to post a simil

[RBW] Re: Help needed from the collective mind.

2013-08-31 Thread George Schick
I have access to a dual boinger Trek Fuel 90 MTB with wide flat bars. Along with that frame, which puts much pretty much in an upright position, I have more hand numbness issues than I do with my other three bikes, two of which have drop bars. In other words, I'm not sure that the suspension

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2013-08-31 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Yeah... I was just going to post a similar experience to cyclotourist's. When I put Oury grips on my mtb, I had pretty immediate wrist and hand issues. Dropping back to a slim profile grip eliminated it. You might play with thin diameter bar/tape combined with a specific gel pad right at the p

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2013-08-31 Thread cyclotourist
Have you gone the counter-intuitve approach and tried bars with minimal/no padding? Maybe just some cloth tape? The fatter the wrap, the less comfortable I am, but that's w/out the nerve damage you're dealing with. On 8/31/13, Jeremy Till wrote: > Hi Clayton- > > No expert or anything here, just

[RBW] Re: Help needed from the collective mind.

2013-08-31 Thread Jeremy Till
Hi Clayton- No expert or anything here, just throwing out other ideas. If I remember correctly from pictures of your Atlantis you've posted here, the WB suspension seatpost you have is a zero offset seatpost, which when combined with the B17, even given the relatively slack STA of the Atlantis

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2013-08-30 Thread William
* Jimmy Hutch > > *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > *Sent:* Friday, August 30, 2013 4:08 PM > *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Help needed from the collective mind. > > Ape hangers would look badass on an Atlantis and they might allow you to > hang on with your finger tips. I don

Re: [RBW] Re: Help needed from the collective mind.

2013-08-30 Thread clayton bailey
HaHa! Thanks for the laugh! I really needed it  From: Jimmy Hutch To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 4:08 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Help needed from the collective mind. Ape hangers would look badass on an Atlantis and they

[RBW] Re: Help needed from the collective mind.

2013-08-30 Thread Jimmy Hutch
Ape hangers would look badass on an Atlantis and they might allow you to hang on with your finger tips. I don't know how they would affect the elbow but they are cheap and may be worth a try. However, if you are 5'8"ish, you should give up, grow a long beard, get a recumbent, and donate the At

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2013-08-30 Thread Clayton
Hi Ben, This is where the Doctor told me not to put any pressure on my hands. The line shows where I had my surgery. As you can tell, the outside X is the one that is hardest to not put pre

[RBW] Re: Help needed from the collective mind.

2013-08-30 Thread Clayton
*I have been thinking of going to a full boinger 29er, but.. Rivendell doesn't make them.sni.* On Thursday, August 29, 2013 12:10:09 PM UTC-7, William wrote: > > Boy that sounds pretty horrible. A former co-worker at the bike shop had > pretty major hand and elbow problems as well,

Re: [RBW] Re: Help needed from the collective mind.

2013-08-30 Thread clayton bailey
ject: [RBW] Re: Help needed from the collective mind. Hi Clayton, Sorry to hear about the condition. I hope this helps - while out on the road a few weeks back, I met gentleman who "apologized" for his triathlon aero-bars by explaining that he had carpal tunnel, and that resting on

[RBW] Re: Help needed from the collective mind.

2013-08-30 Thread James Philip
Hi Clayton, Sorry to hear about the condition. I hope this helps - while out on the road a few weeks back, I met gentleman who "apologized" for his triathlon aero-bars by explaining that he had carpal tunnel, and that resting on his forearms was the only way he could ride any distance, as he ha

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2013-08-30 Thread Deacon Patrick
That approach matches mine, Perry. Crutches (anything padded/supportive) sould be used as a last resort, and then only temporarily if possible. While I've not dealt with these issues, I have found that getting the foundational things right (diet, core strength, active proprioception, etc.) allo

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2013-08-30 Thread bobish
Clayton, I've been there. I went to a recumbent and it cured it until I could figure out other things (clean up diet, strengthen back, sleep with wrist brace, take more breaks from intensive activities which caused flare ups). Now I have a recumbent and a couple of DF bikes and after years of be

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2013-08-30 Thread LF
It may be heresy ... and I'm just sayin ... not speaking from experience ... but ... whadja think of a (recum) bent? L On Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:36:24 PM UTC-4, Clayton wrote: > > I just got back from my Nerve doctor, a Physiatrist, pain specialist...I > have had four total carpal tunnel su

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2013-08-29 Thread BenG
Hi Clayton. So Sorry! You're farther down that road than me, so I'd appreciate your advice in return. As far as riding goes, I'll offer something. My tingling, burning and yet numb finger symptoms went from tolerable to not so, just one month ago. Although there was some aggravation/trauma i

[RBW] Re: Help needed from the collective mind.

2013-08-29 Thread Clayton
Thanks to everyone for your advice. I sincerely appreciate the collective. I should have expounded on my explanation. The conduction in my *hands*isn't too bad according to the tests. My current position on my bike is very upright. The lower drops are at the height of the saddle. I have very l

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2013-08-29 Thread clayton bailey
Help needed from the collective mind. Have you tried albatross or bosco bars? They can allow you to sit upright and put no pressure on your hands. I 2nd the recommendation for Ergon grips too. Where are you? Maybe there is a list member nearby who can let you try those bars. jim m wc ca --

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2013-08-29 Thread Eric Platt
Another one to suggest Albatross or other bar. Have had carpal issues in the past and sitting more upright has definitely helped. From my experience, elbow flexing more than weight on hands seems to be a big factor. Did have Woodchippers on my Fargo. After a while, they seemed to contribute to

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2013-08-29 Thread Michael
> > Let me add,* bolt upright* on Albas might be worth a try. > You may need a shorter stem, like an 8cm extension to get the bars back far enough. That's what my Alba setup is. Least amount of weight possible on hands - bolt upright. I still get some hand stuff going on though. I knew a guit

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2013-08-29 Thread Liesl
> Have you tried albatross or bosco bars? They can allow you to sit upright > and put no pressure on your hands. I 2nd the recommendation for Ergon grips > too. > Dang, Clayton! I. too, suggest Boscos and Ergons, which I have for neck trouble. My colleague Nils is an organist and suffers f

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2013-08-29 Thread Tim Whalen
Hi Clayton, I am very sorry to hear all of that. I have a lot of spine damage and for a while was forced by back pain to a recumbent, both two wheelers and trikes. I don't like them as much as an upright but they are super comfortable and it is riding and is enjoyable. After some years I was ab

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2013-08-29 Thread Zack
first of all, condolences on dealing with what sounds like a terrible health issue. rough stuff. i don't suffer from anything close to that, but was going to suggest trying a set of bosco bars. they help me with neck and back pain. the boscos get the handle/grips up higher than the stem, and

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2013-08-29 Thread blakcloud
I am with Jim M. on this one. A complete new position on the bike where less weight is going to the hands is in order. I have the Albatross bars and on my three other bikes I have Ergons, which are the best grips I have ever used. On the Albatross, I used padded bar tape for the grip. The reaso

[RBW] Re: Help needed from the collective mind.

2013-08-29 Thread Jim M.
Have you tried albatross or bosco bars? They can allow you to sit upright and put no pressure on your hands. I 2nd the recommendation for Ergon grips too. Where are you? Maybe there is a list member nearby who can let you try those bars. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you ar

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2013-08-29 Thread William
Boy that sounds pretty horrible. A former co-worker at the bike shop had pretty major hand and elbow problems as well, and the four things in life he really liked doing were: drawing, guitar, cycling and mechanic work. All four severely aggravated his conditions. I know it was hard. He did

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2013-08-29 Thread dougP
Clayton: Sorry to hear about these problems. Sounds like you've put a lot of thought & effort into managing them. Have you tried Ergon grips? If one tends to use the ends of the handlebars, they can be a big help. Also the idea of ridiculously fat handlebar padding is worth a go. Sounds as